The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

You know, I always thought Beloan would stay with Khamir, but your post proves otherwise. Perhaps Khamir really did intend to go after the children and Shae on his own. With a comment like that, I can't help but wonder what Khamir really was doing the moments before the Fellowship arrived. Did he leave and come back?

I had the same thoughts myself but then decided to pull Beloan as the one to bring the ex-slaves together. I think it was needed as Hadith would not have been the figure to do it, anyway. He's no leader even he might be outspoken (at least for the time being). And someone had to be the believable one to gather the discussion, even if the discussion were to be democratic in a sense. I found no better candidate than Beloan for that. And it sounded believable that he would have chosen the lot against Khamir - even though he seems to admire Khemir a lot - that could have been a place where Beloan would have chosen otherwise, seeing the foolery of the effort Khamir was proposing (as Hadith said: we didn't know in what direction the slavers camp was, or was it five or fifty miles away! So foolishness to go and try one direction by foot when those others have horses...)

I think Durelin left it open enough that Beloan might choose otherwise and in this situation I thought this "other choice" to be more believable and giving Durelin the freedom to make Khamir the dramatic character she obviously is wishing to make him...

But let's hear Durelin. I'm ready to change the casting of my post if needed, surely. I know I have taken some liberties as I tried to bring the things in the ex-slave camp to even the things happening outside (eg. the fellowship coming to them) and tried to come up with reasons why they were not just receiving them with open arms.

And if you have complaints against my interpretation of these reasons, just call me and we'll consider them...

[Brinniel]

I had the same thoughts myself but then decided to pull Beloan as the one to bring the ex-slaves together. I think it was needed as Hadith would not have been the figure to do it, anyway. He's no leader even he might be outspoken (at least for the time being). And someone had to be the believable one to gather the discussion, even if the discussion were to be democratic in a sense. I found no better candidate than Beloan for that.

Yeah, I hear you out. I think the idea works quite well, actually.

that could have been a place where Beloan would have chosen otherwise, seeing the foolery of the effort Khamir was proposing (as Hadith said: we didn't know in what direction the slavers camp was, or was it five or fifty miles away! So foolishness to go and try one direction by foot when those others have horses...

True, true. Perhaps Khamir and Shae have more in common than they know...at least when it comes to foolery.

Anyways, I suppose we shall have to wait for Durelin to return before we find out what Khamir really was doing (not that I'm trying to rush you or anything, Durelin.... )

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Anyways, I suppose we shall have to wait for Durelin to return before we find out what Khamir really was doing (not that I'm trying to rush you, Durelin, or anything.... )

I agree. Not pushing it myself either...

And actually, I think it is somewhat important, whether you others - besides Durelin - who have ex-slave characters agree with my interpretation of the situation before the fellowship arrives.

[Tevildo]

Nogrod,

Whoa! That's quite a post! Good going.

I've put up a save for Dorran to respond. It's also possible that Kwell will have something to say or do....I wrote Folwren to see how she wants to handle this. I will work on it starting tonight and fill in around mid-day tomorrow at the latest.

Of course, I will only respond to the spoken words by your character so you can still iron out all the details of the planning--the earlier part of the post. I can see how Durelin might want to eyeball this and you could always fiddle with the details as needed as well as figure out where Khamir was.

I am assuming, however, that, whatever you may specifically decide about the genreal group planning and Khamir, the spoken words of your character--the emotional outburst--will remain the same and that is what Dorran will attempt to answer.

Let me know if you have any other concerns and I'll try to respond before I write the post.

[Nogrod]

I am assuming, however, that, whatever you may specifically decide about the genreal group planning and Khamir, the spoken words of your character--the emotional outburst--will remain the same and that is what Dorran will attempt to answer.

Let me know if you have any other concerns and I'll try to respond before I write the post.

I have no other concerns right now. It took enough of my creativity to come up with the last one making the two groups to come together in a reasoned way as they had already encountered, so everything will be fine with me for a while...

But we'll listen to Durelin, if she wants to change something...

I'm looking forwards to see how this will be turned the good way around. I don't think that it is too hard, but it requires some measures some of the people involved might mot be ready to take / give so easily...

[Durelin]

I apologize for not being around as much as I'd like. Things have been crazy for me, and whenever I do find time to post, I see a 'Save' up, and so I move on to something else I need to do.

Hopefully my schoolwork will clear up a little bit by the end of the month, once this mad rush of papers and the like is over...hopefully.

At any rate, I was imagining that time was passing rather slowly in the slave camp, and I was thinking that Khamir wouldn't have a chance to leave before the Fellowship arrived.

Also, Beloan was with Khamir, and would leave with him if he did head off toward the slavers' camp, but it is very possible that he left Khamir alone after his little hissy fit, though keeping an eye on him (making sure he didn't run off!).

Other than that, I didn't really have anything else in mind...

Does that answer most questions?

Hopefully I can sneak a reaction from Adnan in, as well as from Khamir, probably all internal. Though I'm sure Khamir will be looking for a place to butt in soon... But keep moving on as you'd like - I can always ask to have posts placed somewhere, if no one minds that.

[Nogrod]

At any rate, I was imagining that time was passing rather slowly in the slave camp, and I was thinking that Khamir wouldn't have a chance to leave before the Fellowship arrived.

They came in quite suddenly in the end. I was also thinking the things would go as slow as they had gone before, but that surely was a surprise when the fellowship in a flash was there... That's the reason why I felt I needed to save something from the point of view of the ex-slaves and tried to make their reactions believable...

Durelin: I think you must do some soul-searching with Khamir's relation to Beloan and about Khamir as a character in the first place. I think Beloan is someone who still goes for the common good more than with his friends personal oddities - how dear that friend might be to him (and I think he sure is a dear friend of his). I see no problem in Beloan watching Khamir's movements and taking part of the planning of the overall defences...

And we surely need someone to gather the ex-slaves together, someone in accordance with everyone but still having something like leadership in him (Hadith will not do). I can't think of anyone else than Beloan at this point as Khamir has made a different decision...

I hope you can see this scenario as a reasonable one. If it sounds bad to you, let us discuss it further...