Tol-In-Gauroth XXIV: Battle of the Band[Wagon] - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 09-29-2006, 06:16 AM

Mac is raising my attention now. He comes in posts that he agrees with Diamond and says this has been a very 'Day-one-ish Day one' so far. What did you expect it to be like? Just seems something's off from the Mac my ancestors were used to. Maybe it's just early, but Mac is usually one of those solid innocents that is willing to help. Now, I don't get that same feeling, just seems like he's commenting about how ordinary this Day 1 has been and we won't all agree on the same strategy, so discussing one will not benefit us.

I need more time to consider some of this, I must be off.

Edit: x-posted with Thinlomien

Macalaure · 09-29-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Mac is raising my attention now. He comes in posts that he agrees with Diamond and says this has been a very 'Day-one-ish Day one' so far. What did you expect it to be like? Just seems something's off from the Mac my ancestors were used to. Maybe it's just early, but Mac is usually one of those solid innocents that is willing to help. Now, I don't get that same feeling, just seems like he's commenting about how ordinary this Day 1 has been and we won't all agree on the same strategy, so discussing one will not benefit us.

Relax, Boro, that was only my first post. If you look up your lorebook, you will see that I rarely make sense in that one. The villages of my ancestors all had pretty spectacular Day-Ones, all ending with the death of a wolf or with the revelation of the seer, so maybe that's it. I am willing to help, but I don't know how to at the moment. The suspicions given so far don't convince me. Nogrod's case against Glirdan is not too aggressive to me, as Lommy said, but it's a little too condemning. Sometimes wolves use heavy words for little suspicion. That little bit is all I have right now...

edit: crossed with Folwren and Eonwe

Diamond18 · 09-29-2006, 09:19 AM

Well I'm back. I'm not sure what to say. There's nothing much concrete to work off of. I of course expected something big and dramatic to transpire. Ha ha, note sarcasm.

I guess the people who are standing out the most at this point are Nogrod, Folwren, and Mac. Nogrod always stands out and appears overly aggressive, so not sure if there's anything to make of it. Folwren seems highly defensive, but as I am not at all used to her style I suppose I must take her at face value when she says it's par for the course. At least, so long as no one who does know her better should contradict this. Mac's a little more interesting, he whole heartedly agreed with me about the uneventfulness of Day 1, and I had thought previously that he was opposed to poo-pooing Day 1's. Still, I hesitate to run screaming at him with sharp implements, because I can't be sure this is really OOC for him or just reflects the particular slowness of this day. I don't know. If I had to vote right now I'd probably vote for Mac, just because he's one person I would not have predicted would agree with me strongly, yet he did just that. I don't like it, though, as this is little more than a gut feeling vote.

Well, there's 40 minutes yet and maybe a re-reading will smack me in the face with something stupendous.

Edit: x-posted with Folwren, Eonwe, Folwren, and Boro.

Eonwe · 09-29-2006, 09:31 AM

Well, I dunno. I'm suffering from a bad case of first-day blahs. Either that, or I'm too dang open-minded about people's posting. I really need to work on being more judgmental if I'm ever to succeed at WereWolf.

I guess I'm thinking about four options.

1) Vote at random. (I've done this before, and it hasn't been very appreciated...)
2) Not vote. (see above, lol)
3) Vote to help Folwren. (really amounts to a random vote, just a bit more ... not random)
4) Vote randomly in the list of already voted for.

So I guess I'm down to a random vote, eh? ...meh...

Well hows this, I'll randomly choose from the numbers, and then follow that plan?

By the way Diamond, we have till 1 pm today. Remember Sleepy said it will end at 1 pm today.

Folwren · 09-29-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SIR Eonwe

By the way Diamond, we have till 1 pm today. Remember Sleepy said it will end at 1 pm today.

Aye, aye, that's right. So, there's still approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes remaining.

Boromir, thanks.

-- Folwren

Eonwe · 09-29-2006, 09:41 AM

Fine I'm gonna vote for the 9th person on Sleepy's list.

Sorry Nogrod...

++Nogrod

Now, I've got to go do some integration by parts....

Edit: Sir Eonwe...I like that... jk

Nogrod · 09-29-2006, 09:47 AM

Well, uh-uh... lots of things happening around here.

First of all I shall honour the ways of my forefathers and supply the situation.

The Ka 1 (Durelin I)
Durelin 1 (Glirdan II)
Volo 2 (Ka III, Celuien VI)
Folwren 2 (Lommy IV, Menel IX)
Macalaure 2 (Rune V, Boro VII)
Nogrod 1 (Eonwe VIII)

Five votes left, if I'm correct.

I'll go reading the stuff again...

Nogrod · 09-29-2006, 10:06 AM

The top three of the votes aligns with my suspicions, so I'll try to look at those people first.

Volo I'm a bit aware of, as his "defence" of himself seemed like trying to be useful without actually doing anything (making the scanty summary of the posts so far) and that has been considered quite wolvish, with a reason I daresay. But then again, he acted pretty "shady and suspicious" as Boro named it, already in his first game before this.

Mac surely looked suspicious in his first post but has come more like himself after it. Although I'm still not wholly convinced with his defences either. But with the same breath I must say that lynching an innocent Mac would be a bad thing indeed...

Folwren looks pretty suspicious. I would just like to add to the previous comments the following. Folwren seems to be one of those most lovable and nice Downers there ever is and so it might be quite a burden for her to play the Baddie... kind of leading to being overtly careful and almost apologetic?

PS. I think I have a different understanding of what counts as aggressive behaviour with Lommy and Di.

Diamond18 · 09-29-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

By the way Diamond, we have till 1 pm today. Remember Sleepy said it will end at 1 pm today.

Ah. Thanks... I didn't notice that actually. Probably because it wasn't all in caps and flashing at me.

I'm not sure if I'll last the extra hour, however, as I'm extremely tired and should be heading to bed. We'll see. I've read over the thread again and found myself flip-flopping with every post... I believe I managed to condemn and excuse just about everyone and wound up with no solid suspects. I'm really tempted to vote for Rune because he's said the least. But seeing as he was called away by RL these seems like a cheap shot. I don't know. I'm tired. I'll think some more.

Macalaure · 09-29-2006, 10:12 AM

I'm at a complete loss about whom to vote for.

The ones I feel innocent right now are Menel, Thinlómien and Folwren. Folwren has attracted some suspicions, but I don't understand them. No wolf would be so extremely insecure on the first post of the first day to say what she said. Defensiveness alone is no reason for suspicion to me.

I have no idea about: Boromir, Glirdan (he's like he always is, to me), Celuien, Durelin (she's been weird, but we'll see tomorrow), Rune, Ka, Nogrod, Eonwe and Diamond.
That's a horribly long list...

The only one about which I am suspicious to a ridiculously small degree is Volo, because his summary doesn't sit well with me.

Diamond18 · 09-29-2006, 10:13 AM

Okay. I'm not going to make it. Seeing as no one's posted to make things lively in the last ten minutes, I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. I am most suspicious of Mac but really hesitant to vote for him, since I feel more like keeping an eye out than kicking him out of the game. Mainly, I wouldn't find what he said at all suspicious if I didn't remember him exhibiting more enthusiasm over day 1's before, or at least my swiss cheese memory gives me that impression. Folwren, the more I read her posts, seems more ballistic in her defense. Yet I'm equally hesitant to off her.

++Rune

He was quiet and, I feel, fairly hard to get a read on even before he left early, so of all the posters I feel the least "bad" about sending him out of the game. But then, he's not likely to get enough votes to leave, so, there's really nothing to feel bad about. Ha. Yeah, I'm leaving it to the others to break the Volo/Folwren/Mac tie. I'm evil that way. Also had to just think really hard to remember the names, so I really should go. Now.

edit: Xposted with Mac and Nogrod. I don't understand your PS, Noggie.

Macalaure · 09-29-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Diamond

Mainly, I wouldn't find what he said at all suspicious if I didn't remember him exhibiting more enthusiasm over day 1's before, or at least my swiss cheese memory gives me that impression.

As I said, all my previous Day 1s were pretty eventful. I had no reason to complain.

Macalaure · 09-29-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Macalaure went on to say nothing new. Agreeing with Diamond and asking one of the wolves to say how much they disliked Day-Ones. Well, I've done that, and I'm not a wolf, and I don't know why that would prove anyone a wolf. I just don't get it.

I didn't say that. I said I missed anybody saying they hate Day-Ones. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, I was just missing it.
So, thank you, Folwren. Now I'm happy.

hmmm, I just re-read my first post. I fear it's quite easy to misunderstand. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Boro

Mac, for the reasons I mentioned in my last post. Also, the behavior of 'discussing strategy is good, but it doesn't help us because no one will ever agree.' That just seems terribly awkward to me, saying it's good to do, but we won't agree, so it won't lead us anywhere.

Heck, today seems to be 'Let's all misunderstand Mac'-Day.
I said it's nice, not good. It's better than not talking at all. Maybe I'm wrong in this, but I have never seen any strategy put into practice, because there are always some who disagree with it and some who don't care (umm..). As soon as Day 2 dawns all Day-One tactics and strategies are usually forgotten, because we finally have things to go for.
As I said, my lore is little, maybe I'm wrong.

Boromir88 · 09-29-2006, 09:33 AM

I have to go with my gut. And it's time for me to go...so

++Mac

Meneltarmacil · 09-29-2006, 09:41 AM

I'm sorry, Folwren. It just seems that the way you've been rather frantically trying to defend yourself is making you look suspicious. Actually, it was your statement that we shouldn't read any twisted meaning into your words that was suspicious. It was a typical Day One post; why would we need to be warned?

Once again, I am truly sorry if you're innocent, but I must speak my mind.

++Folwren

Meneltarmacil has left the building.

09-29-2006, 06:16 AM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Mac is raising my attention now. He comes in posts that he agrees with Diamond and says this has been a very 'Day-one-ish Day one' so far. What did you expect it to be like? Just seems something's off from the Mac my ancestors were used to. Maybe it's just early, but Mac is usually one of those solid innocents that is willing to help. Now, I don't get that same feeling, just seems like he's commenting about how ordinary this Day 1 has been and we won't all agree on the same strategy, so discussing one will not benefit us. I need more time to consider some of this, I must be off. Edit: x-posted with Thinlomien __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-29-2006, 09:19 AM	#3
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Well I'm back. I'm not sure what to say. There's nothing much concrete to work off of. I of course expected something big and dramatic to transpire. Ha ha, note sarcasm. I guess the people who are standing out the most at this point are Nogrod, Folwren, and Mac. Nogrod always stands out and appears overly aggressive, so not sure if there's anything to make of it. Folwren seems highly defensive, but as I am not at all used to her style I suppose I must take her at face value when she says it's par for the course. At least, so long as no one who does know her better should contradict this. Mac's a little more interesting, he whole heartedly agreed with me about the uneventfulness of Day 1, and I had thought previously that he was opposed to poo-pooing Day 1's. Still, I hesitate to run screaming at him with sharp implements, because I can't be sure this is really OOC for him or just reflects the particular slowness of this day. I don't know. If I had to vote right now I'd probably vote for Mac, just because he's one person I would not have predicted would agree with me strongly, yet he did just that. I don't like it, though, as this is little more than a gut feeling vote. Well, there's 40 minutes yet and maybe a re-reading will smack me in the face with something stupendous. Edit: x-posted with Folwren, Eonwe, Folwren, and Boro. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

09-29-2006, 09:31 AM	#4
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	Well, I dunno. I'm suffering from a bad case of first-day blahs. Either that, or I'm too dang open-minded about people's posting. I really need to work on being more judgmental if I'm ever to succeed at WereWolf. I guess I'm thinking about four options. 1) Vote at random. (I've done this before, and it hasn't been very appreciated...) 2) Not vote. (see above, lol) 3) Vote to help Folwren. (really amounts to a random vote, just a bit more ... not random) 4) Vote randomly in the list of already voted for. So I guess I'm down to a random vote, eh? ...meh... Well hows this, I'll randomly choose from the numbers, and then follow that plan? By the way Diamond, we have till 1 pm today. Remember Sleepy said it will end at 1 pm today. __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

09-29-2006, 09:41 AM	#6
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	Fine I'm gonna vote for the 9th person on Sleepy's list. Sorry Nogrod... ++Nogrod Now, I've got to go do some integration by parts.... Edit: Sir Eonwe...I like that... jk __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

09-29-2006, 09:47 AM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well, uh-uh... lots of things happening around here. First of all I shall honour the ways of my forefathers and supply the situation. The Ka 1 (Durelin I) Durelin 1 (Glirdan II) Volo 2 (Ka III, Celuien VI) Folwren 2 (Lommy IV, Menel IX) Macalaure 2 (Rune V, Boro VII) Nogrod 1 (Eonwe VIII) Five votes left, if I'm correct. I'll go reading the stuff again... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-29-2006, 10:06 AM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	The top three of the votes aligns with my suspicions, so I'll try to look at those people first. Volo I'm a bit aware of, as his "defence" of himself seemed like trying to be useful without actually doing anything (making the scanty summary of the posts so far) and that has been considered quite wolvish, with a reason I daresay. But then again, he acted pretty "shady and suspicious" as Boro named it, already in his first game before this. Mac surely looked suspicious in his first post but has come more like himself after it. Although I'm still not wholly convinced with his defences either. But with the same breath I must say that lynching an innocent Mac would be a bad thing indeed... Folwren looks pretty suspicious. I would just like to add to the previous comments the following. Folwren seems to be one of those most lovable and nice Downers there ever is and so it might be quite a burden for her to play the Baddie... kind of leading to being overtly careful and almost apologetic? PS. I think I have a different understanding of what counts as aggressive behaviour with Lommy and Di. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-29-2006, 10:12 AM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I'm at a complete loss about whom to vote for. The ones I feel innocent right now are Menel, Thinlómien and Folwren. Folwren has attracted some suspicions, but I don't understand them. No wolf would be so extremely insecure on the first post of the first day to say what she said. Defensiveness alone is no reason for suspicion to me. I have no idea about: Boromir, Glirdan (he's like he always is, to me), Celuien, Durelin (she's been weird, but we'll see tomorrow), Rune, Ka, Nogrod, Eonwe and Diamond. That's a horribly long list... The only one about which I am suspicious to a ridiculously small degree is Volo, because his summary doesn't sit well with me. Last edited by Macalaure; 09-29-2006 at 10:14 AM. Reason: a demon inside me made me use that horrible grammar

09-29-2006, 10:13 AM	#11
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Okay. I'm not going to make it. Seeing as no one's posted to make things lively in the last ten minutes, I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. I am most suspicious of Mac but really hesitant to vote for him, since I feel more like keeping an eye out than kicking him out of the game. Mainly, I wouldn't find what he said at all suspicious if I didn't remember him exhibiting more enthusiasm over day 1's before, or at least my swiss cheese memory gives me that impression. Folwren, the more I read her posts, seems more ballistic in her defense. Yet I'm equally hesitant to off her. ++Rune He was quiet and, I feel, fairly hard to get a read on even before he left early, so of all the posters I feel the least "bad" about sending him out of the game. But then, he's not likely to get enough votes to leave, so, there's really nothing to feel bad about. Ha. Yeah, I'm leaving it to the others to break the Volo/Folwren/Mac tie. I'm evil that way. Also had to just think really hard to remember the names, so I really should go. Now. edit: Xposted with Mac and Nogrod. I don't understand your PS, Noggie. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

09-29-2006, 09:33 AM	#14
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I have to go with my gut. And it's time for me to go...so ++Mac __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-29-2006, 09:41 AM	#15
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	I'm sorry, Folwren. It just seems that the way you've been rather frantically trying to defend yourself is making you look suspicious. Actually, it was your statement that we shouldn't read any twisted meaning into your words that was suspicious. It was a typical Day One post; why would we need to be warned? Once again, I am truly sorry if you're innocent, but I must speak my mind. ++Folwren Meneltarmacil has left the building. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.