Christopher Tolkien to finish lost Middle Earth novel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Child of the 7th Age · 09-25-2006, 02:05 AM

Regarding the "dark nature" of the tale, this is already being played up by the press: Tolkien's Son Finds Dark Side of Fable.

The Sixth Wizard · 09-25-2006, 03:23 AM

Writing flair? He better get cracking, he IS 81.

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"Hurin, the elf warrior" is great. Wouldn't you think The Times would have at least one person on their staff who's actually read The Silmarillion?

I guess we must forgive the media for making a few mistakes and jokes. After all to them Tolkien fans are a particularly unfathomable bunch (I tried reading Ainulindale to my family, it - needless to say - didn't go down well). I wonder how many people around the world have read the Silmarillion anyway...

Imagine a Silmarillion movie. Sure, it would be boring, long, have no tickets sold, skip half the book, expensive, jump between scenes and characters. But think of the battle scenes!!

the guy who be short · 09-25-2006, 04:54 AM

£18.99? Eek. I think I'll wait for a paperback edition, or perhaps get it from the library.

But incredibly welcome news, if there is any unpublished stuff to receive. Though I wonder whether it will render parts of the Silmarillion obsolete. Perhaps future editions will be a lot slimmer.

littlemanpoet · 09-25-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by the guy who be short

I wonder whether it will render parts of the Silmarillion obsolete.

Hardly. 'Expanded upon', but not obsolete.

**lindil** · 09-25-2006, 10:01 AM

Aiwendil thanks for doing the math on the new books contents.

I think CRT may well flesh out some of the more compressed material.
Whether Wanderings makes it as anything other than an appendix is the question.

I would not be suprised.

I really wonder whether this bodes more such treatments?

Also he may take the moment to put in the missing accounts he mentions in XI. I think the trolls in the Nirnaeth scene is one. Underhillo?

As for Silmarillion 'obscolesence'...what could have rendered it less than THE account, than UT and HoME 1-5 and X-XII already did?

zifnab · 09-26-2006, 07:19 PM

By now...this is old news. I have not read every post on this so far, so, I apologize. He is what I did read (and a bit of some stuff from daveM{Look Dave! I didn't even need to hit the 'reputation' thingy for you!}). Taken from an article on SFcrowsnest linked to CNN.

And I only have one thing to say....1918 !!!!
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ianintheuk · 10-04-2006, 03:58 AM

For my own amusement and to satisfy a need I have made my own "children of Hurin" which I type set in 11 point times new roman and printed on paper the same size as the published books,

This included all of the "NARN" plus its appendices and the missing bits from the Silmarillion which i wove into one narrative, additionally I added
1. Hurin/Huor's finding of Gondolin
2. the introduction from HoME plus other notes
3. The battle of unnumbered tears
4. the wanderings of Hurin plus the story of his visit to Nargothrond - Doriath and his death

All of this text came to 176 pages ONLY so if the 320pages is right even taking into account a number of pictures indices etc we are still looking at 80-100 new pages of actual text (BEST GUESS)

So perhaps this is a good thing !

09-25-2006, 02:05 AM	#1
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Regarding the "dark nature" of the tale, this is already being played up by the press: Tolkien's Son Finds Dark Side of Fable. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

09-25-2006, 10:01 AM	#5
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Aiwendil thanks for doing the math on the new books contents. I think CRT may well flesh out some of the more compressed material. Whether Wanderings makes it as anything other than an appendix is the question. I would not be suprised. I really wonder whether this bodes more such treatments? Also he may take the moment to put in the missing accounts he mentions in XI. I think the trolls in the Nirnaeth scene is one. Underhillo? As for Silmarillion 'obscolesence'...what could have rendered it less than THE account, than UT and HoME 1-5 and X-XII already did? __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light. Last edited by lindil; 09-25-2006 at 10:12 AM. Reason: addition

09-26-2006, 07:19 PM	#6
zifnab Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: omni-presence Posts: 329	Old news travels slower then old men. By now...this is old news. I have not read every post on this so far, so, I apologize. He is what I did read (and a bit of some stuff from daveM{Look Dave! I didn't even need to hit the 'reputation' thingy for you!}). Taken from an article on SFcrowsnest linked to CNN. And I only have one thing to say....1918 !!!! <br/> __________________ Facebook.

10-04-2006, 03:58 AM	#7
ianintheuk Newly Deceased Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4	320 pages !!! For my own amusement and to satisfy a need I have made my own "children of Hurin" which I type set in 11 point times new roman and printed on paper the same size as the published books, This included all of the "NARN" plus its appendices and the missing bits from the Silmarillion which i wove into one narrative, additionally I added 1. Hurin/Huor's finding of Gondolin 2. the introduction from HoME plus other notes 3. The battle of unnumbered tears 4. the wanderings of Hurin plus the story of his visit to Nargothrond - Doriath and his death All of this text came to 176 pages ONLY so if the 320pages is right even taking into account a number of pictures indices etc we are still looking at 80-100 new pages of actual text (BEST GUESS) So perhaps this is a good thing !

09-25-2006, 04:54 AM	#3
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	£18.99? Eek. I think I'll wait for a paperback edition, or perhaps get it from the library. But incredibly welcome news, if there is any unpublished stuff to receive. Though I wonder whether it will render parts of the Silmarillion obsolete. Perhaps future editions will be a lot slimmer.