Christopher Tolkien to finish lost Middle Earth novel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anguirel · 09-24-2006, 03:53 PM

Priceless!

A dragon, slain by Turin, causes Nienor to realise that they have committed incest. By then she is carrying his unborn child and commits suicide by throwing herself into a ravine.

NIENOR: (Examining dragon entrails) Oooo, I'm a Virgo. That means I've committed incest. Dagnabbit.

Turin finally kills himself with his talking sword. “I will drink thy blood gladly,” says its black blade.

Talking Swords-A Must for Angstsy Heroes!*

*Black blades and vampirism come with 50p extra charge

Also, William Ferguson, whoever you are, you're one of the most insightful literary critics it's ever been my pleasure to read...

HerenIstarion · 09-24-2006, 03:59 PM

This sounds like a good signature:

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Turin makes folks like Othello and Hamlet and Oedipus look like lucky devils

Lalwendë · 09-24-2006, 04:09 PM

Anguirel, you make it sound like an episode of Brookside when you put it like that.

I secretly want there to be a film, because the action figures would be, to say the least, interesting...

Anyway, hopefully it will put paid to the media myth that Tolkien's work is just about jolly likkle Hobbitses and cutey blonde Elves and well, that it's basically childish. Even if people don't read the book they'll find out about it and the media will play up on the dark nature of the tale so it will give Tolkien a slightly different perspective in the eyes of the non-fans.

Sardy · 09-24-2006, 04:10 PM

While I'm looking very much forward to this book, I personally have always wanted to see Chris Tolkien take more creative liberties and actually expand (not just edit) his father's work. Has Chris published any fiction of his own?

I still have fingers crossed for an epic trilogy based upon "The New Shadow." A good writer (with CT's intimite knowledge of JRRT's work) could surely work around JRRT's oft-quoted misgivings about the abandoned seminal work (or develop an entirely new sequel concept). Whether achieved by CT alone or with the aid of another, more experienced creative writer, I think that the project has much merit and appeal. It could happen... CT is just 81 years young!

Aiwendil · 09-24-2006, 04:50 PM

Lalwende wrote:

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Anyway, I don't care if it is short, it is new.

But the one thing we can be sure of is that it is not new. And you call yourself cynical.

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I secretly want there to be a film

I've always thought the Turin saga would make a very excellent film - though I imagine it being something of a cult classic rather than a blockbuster. I could see it as an Ingmar Bergman movie.

"Hurin, the elf warrior" is great. Wouldn't you think The Times would have at least one person on their staff who's actually read The Silmarillion?

09-24-2006, 03:53 PM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Priceless! A dragon, slain by Turin, causes Nienor to realise that they have committed incest. By then she is carrying his unborn child and commits suicide by throwing herself into a ravine. NIENOR: (Examining dragon entrails) Oooo, I'm a Virgo. That means I've committed incest. Dagnabbit. Turin finally kills himself with his talking sword. “I will drink thy blood gladly,” says its black blade. Talking Swords-A Must for Angstsy Heroes!* *Black blades and vampirism come with 50p extra charge Also, William Ferguson, whoever you are, you're one of the most insightful literary critics it's ever been my pleasure to read... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

09-24-2006, 04:09 PM	#3
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Anguirel, you make it sound like an episode of Brookside when you put it like that. I secretly want there to be a film, because the action figures would be, to say the least, interesting... Anyway, hopefully it will put paid to the media myth that Tolkien's work is just about jolly likkle Hobbitses and cutey blonde Elves and well, that it's basically childish. Even if people don't read the book they'll find out about it and the media will play up on the dark nature of the tale so it will give Tolkien a slightly different perspective in the eyes of the non-fans. __________________ Gordon's alive!

09-24-2006, 04:10 PM	#4
Sardy Wight Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 111	While I'm looking very much forward to this book, I personally have always wanted to see Chris Tolkien take more creative liberties and actually expand (not just edit) his father's work. Has Chris published any fiction of his own? I still have fingers crossed for an epic trilogy based upon "The New Shadow." A good writer (with CT's intimite knowledge of JRRT's work) could surely work around JRRT's oft-quoted misgivings about the abandoned seminal work (or develop an entirely new sequel concept). Whether achieved by CT alone or with the aid of another, more experienced creative writer, I think that the project has much merit and appeal. It could happen... CT is just 81 years young! __________________ www.scottchristiancarr.com They passed slowly, and the hobbits could see the starlight glimmering on their hair and in their eyes.