Gondor, Rohan and Lorien - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-15-2006, 02:36 PM

I think we should be carefull not going off topic. . . This could turn into a discusion about Galadriel and Celeborns powers/might.

However a thing I think could be fun to include in the discusion is Thranduil and the elves of northern Mirkwood. (if The Mouth of Sauron does not mind)

They seemed to interact with men more than everybody else though mostly through trade. . . Their Kingdom seemed closed like Lothlorien, not a place you go for council. But you are not afraid of them and even trade with them. How come this elven people are different from the others. . .

The Mouth of Sauron · 09-15-2006, 04:27 PM

A good point .

My worry about the Rohirrim's lack of contact with races to the north remains - the Limlight, Rohan's northern border was only 125 miles from Lorien and 150 miles from Mirkwood . Surely over the 500 years of Rohan's history a few stalwart Riders of Rohan would have established contact with races to the north .

Or perhaps I should say maintained contact - after all the Eothed CAME from the north .

Annatar! · 09-16-2006, 08:45 AM

I use a terrible analogy here... forgive me.
One does not walk into Buckingham Palace the home of the Queen of England. They view it from afar with awe; an emotion that implies many things i.e respect, trepidation and yes even fear.
However they can quite easily 'tour' the Houses of Parliament where (apparent) good counsel is held, and decisions are made by those who we (apparently) should look towards in times of need.
Galadriel is the most noble elf alive during the 3rd age, the period of time that this thread discusses, and yes i believe the most powerful (power does not always imply 'warrior' status, even though she has demonstrated her prowess in this manner in previous ages. The most powerful man in our world has never been physically involved in any of the conflicts of our time! {and i am in NO WAY comparing Galadriel to our current world leaders; Eru forbid!})
Elrond is the wisest in lore; the governing of Middle-Earth, the upholding of and respect for relationships between Elves and Men (except when his daughter's concerned lol).
To me it seems quite natural for Lorien to be 'overlooked' as a place of friendship and looked at as rather a place of awe, and for Imladris to be the place where one goes for counsel etc.
Ironic that the one place where the most potent enemy of Sauron lies is the one place so many men fear to tread!

09-16-2006, 08:45 AM	#3
Annatar! Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 11	I use a terrible analogy here... forgive me. One does not walk into Buckingham Palace the home of the Queen of England. They view it from afar with awe; an emotion that implies many things i.e respect, trepidation and yes even fear. However they can quite easily 'tour' the Houses of Parliament where (apparent) good counsel is held, and decisions are made by those who we (apparently) should look towards in times of need. Galadriel is the most noble elf alive during the 3rd age, the period of time that this thread discusses, and yes i believe the most powerful (power does not always imply 'warrior' status, even though she has demonstrated her prowess in this manner in previous ages. The most powerful man in our world has never been physically involved in any of the conflicts of our time! {and i am in NO WAY comparing Galadriel to our current world leaders; Eru forbid!}) Elrond is the wisest in lore; the governing of Middle-Earth, the upholding of and respect for relationships between Elves and Men (except when his daughter's concerned lol). To me it seems quite natural for Lorien to be 'overlooked' as a place of friendship and looked at as rather a place of awe, and for Imladris to be the place where one goes for counsel etc. Ironic that the one place where the most potent enemy of Sauron lies is the one place so many men fear to tread! __________________ for Sauron took to himself the name of Annatar; the Lord of Gifts

09-15-2006, 04:27 PM	#2
The Mouth of Sauron Wight Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Barad-Dur Posts: 196	A good point . My worry about the Rohirrim's lack of contact with races to the north remains - the Limlight, Rohan's northern border was only 125 miles from Lorien and 150 miles from Mirkwood . Surely over the 500 years of Rohan's history a few stalwart Riders of Rohan would have established contact with races to the north . Or perhaps I should say maintained contact - after all the Eothed CAME from the north .