Survivor : All Star - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mormegil · 08-17-2006, 05:24 AM

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He was not a leader in the Pelennor fields you speak of.

No he wasn't and he didn't do anything, like I said he has rewritten the history books and this 'noble' poking in the knee of the W-k wasn't what it seemed either the sad truth is he was trying to escape and got confused when he tripped and poked the W-k in the knee.

As for leadership ability, Merry couldn't lead a pack of dung beatles to a pile of oliphant dung!

Bêthberry · 08-17-2006, 05:48 AM

I don't doubt that that knife to the Witch-King thing was historical revisionism of the worst sort.

It smells, I tell you, it smells. It is so typically patronising towards women, the kind of little knife which worries away real, true heroine-ism. Ya give a woman a major role to play, a major act set up by prophecy and then ya weakens it by having a minion do the final cut. Really! Talk about misogyny and puffing up one's own self-importance! You pretend to say a woman can do the job and then in the final moments you undercut it all--no wonder the story later shows Eowyn succumbing so quickly to domesticity and traditional authority. I'm surprised that the story doesn't have Merry whistling for the eagles and riding them off to Mount Doom to save Sam and Frodo himself.

No, don't give me this hobbits are so loveable and great. They're parochial Little Englanders who want to keep their females home, hyped full of herblore and housework with lots of little kettles singing on the fire.

++ Merry

Lalaith · 08-17-2006, 06:11 AM

Bethberry, you have been listening to Wormtongues of the worst kind. Anyone who reads the text with a clear and open mind can see that no revisionism has taken place there.

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Merry crawled
on all fours like a dazed beast, and such a horror was on him that he was blind
and sick.

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Still she did not blench: maiden of the Rohirrim, child of kings, slender but
as a steel-blade, fair but terrible. A swift stroke she dealt, skilled and deadly.

If Merry did rewrite the history books, it certainly wasn't to puff up his own self-importance.
Have you wondered by the way, why Eowyn is not in the All Star Final?
You'd better ask Mormegil

mormegil · 08-17-2006, 06:32 AM

Lalaith,

I never said anything about Eowyn and her feats of bravery in that. I merely had to stop rival Kath. No the point being made is that Merry radically alters history to suit him.

Bêthberry · 08-17-2006, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

Bethberry, you have been listening to Wormtongues of the worst kind. Anyone who reads the text with a clear and open mind can see that no revisionism has taken place there.

If Merry did rewrite the history books, it certainly wasn't to puff up his own self-importance.
Have you wondered by the way, why Eowyn is not in the All Star Final?
You'd better ask Mormegil

Dear Lalaith: The perfect subterfuge with which to steer disclaimers!

To say nothing of the Merry who becomes a pompous, self-congratulatory Man of Importance in The Shire! Beside him, Boswell is a giant!

Macalaure · 08-17-2006, 08:12 AM

I have to say that I truly enjoy the current tussle about Merry.

So much, that I think it should continue for one more day - at least.

++Bullroarer

Mirkgirl · 08-17-2006, 08:49 AM

The exam went just as bad as usual.

Bah whats that with hobbits. Id rather take the elf

++ Arwen

The new Luthien?
If it was so she'd go smack Sauron toss the ring in the fire (with or without the hobbit attached) and make only a small detour to pick up Aragorn from the Paths of the Death where he got lost.

Lalaith · 08-17-2006, 08:54 AM

In memory of various clogged-up vacuum cleaners* I will vote for Hama today.

++HAMA

*An explanation

08-17-2006, 05:48 AM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	I don't doubt that that knife to the Witch-King thing was historical revisionism of the worst sort. It smells, I tell you, it smells. It is so typically patronising towards women, the kind of little knife which worries away real, true heroine-ism. Ya give a woman a major role to play, a major act set up by prophecy and then ya weakens it by having a minion do the final cut. Really! Talk about misogyny and puffing up one's own self-importance! You pretend to say a woman can do the job and then in the final moments you undercut it all--no wonder the story later shows Eowyn succumbing so quickly to domesticity and traditional authority. I'm surprised that the story doesn't have Merry whistling for the eagles and riding them off to Mount Doom to save Sam and Frodo himself. No, don't give me this hobbits are so loveable and great. They're parochial Little Englanders who want to keep their females home, hyped full of herblore and housework with lots of little kettles singing on the fire. ++ Merry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

08-17-2006, 06:32 AM	#4
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Lalaith, I never said anything about Eowyn and her feats of bravery in that. I merely had to stop rival Kath. No the point being made is that Merry radically alters history to suit him. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-17-2006, 08:49 AM	#7
Mirkgirl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 84	The exam went just as bad as usual. Bah whats that with hobbits. Id rather take the elf ++ Arwen The new Luthien? If it was so she'd go smack Sauron toss the ring in the fire (with or without the hobbit attached) and make only a small detour to pick up Aragorn from the Paths of the Death where he got lost. __________________ "Hobbits! Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this." Last edited by Mirkgirl; 08-17-2006 at 08:59 AM.

08-17-2006, 08:54 AM	#8
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	In memory of various clogged-up vacuum cleaners* I will vote for Hama today. ++HAMA An explanation __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling*

08-17-2006, 08:12 AM	#6
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I have to say that I truly enjoy the current tussle about Merry. So much, that I think it should continue for one more day - at least. ++Bullroarer