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Gil-Galad · 08-15-2006, 09:14 PM

well i started this bandwagon so i might as well ride it out

++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie

Kuruharan · 08-15-2006, 09:25 PM

Never let it be said that I am inconsistent, particularly during those times when I am inconsistent.

However, this is not one of those times.

++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-15-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morm

Alf did not start as king. No he was a boy of little consequence in a small village of little consequence who became a prentice to the master cook then became king. How is that not a rags to riches story?

Actually, he was King all along. But who cares? He's boring.

You make Merry sound rather exciting, though. All the more reason to keep him.

Diamond18 · 08-15-2006, 10:49 PM

SPM is right, morm -- Alf was the King all along and the persona of Alf the Prentice was just an alias. A disguise. If you'll remember, Master Cook Rider went on travels and came back with Alf, he was not from the village and no one knew his history or parentage.

And Firefoot, "prentice" does indeed mean "apprentice" as Alf's role was the apprentice to Master Cook Rider. This was all a ruse more or less so that he could plant a magic star in a cake.

But you bring up something interesting about the whole anti minor works crusade. It's really kind of shameful the way that people are touting their ignorance as if it's something to be proud of. I mean, really, and you call yourselves Tolkien fans? Really! You won't even bother to read his minor works? I encourage everyone here to think twice before jumping to say "I haven't read them so I don't care." It's like saying, "I only listen to what's on Top 40 radio" or "I believe everything I see on TV."

!

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Alf go, but right about now I'm feeling that it's my duty as the MWS moderator to stand up for the Tolkien that isn't LotR/Silm/Hobbit. The stuff only real fans have bothered to read.

So, let's get rid of a megalomaniac who would be the first to jump on an anti minor works bandwagon:

+ + Sauron

Maybe games like these should be incentive to become more knowledgable about the world of Tolkien, eh? Vote not in ingnorance, my friends.

mormegil · 08-15-2006, 11:34 PM

*psst* Diamond hush up and help me on this ruse okay!

Well I was hoping that only Saucie would contradict my story but alas it wasn't to be, but at least he's mysterious and people like that.

Diamond18 · 08-16-2006, 12:25 AM

Well, morm, if you change your vote from Merry to Sauron, that'll be 3 votes for Sauron, making the score:

Alf -- 6
Sauron -- 3
Merry -- 2

If I change my vote it'll be Merry 3 and Sauron 2. However I dislike the idea of voting Merry here because Sauron is quite clearly more at odds with Alf than Merry is. He stands for all that is boring about stomping on the little guys and ignoring what's too small to merit his observation (read: anti minor works crusade) whereas Merry as a hobbit is too closely aligned to the overlooked end of things.

By the by, Bb, how about changing your vote to Sauron, eh? Merry may be part of the hobbit upper class, but compared to the self proclaimed Lord of the Rings, well....

Mirkgirl · 08-16-2006, 04:02 AM

It's not that I don't like Alf. It's not that I haven't read the minor works. It's that I've read SoWM and the only thing I can remember is they put something in the cake - so I don't know atm enough to have an opinion on Alf. Oh and that just remembering A.L.F. every time they mentioned the boy's name was more entertaining than the story itself. Most management books I've read have left more trail in my memory (and thats the prose equal to vogon poetry)

++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie

08-15-2006, 09:14 PM	#1
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	well i started this bandwagon so i might as well ride it out ++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

08-15-2006, 09:25 PM	#2
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Never let it be said that I am inconsistent, particularly during those times when I am inconsistent. However, this is not one of those times. ++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

08-15-2006, 10:49 PM	#4
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	SPM is right, morm -- Alf was the King all along and the persona of Alf the Prentice was just an alias. A disguise. If you'll remember, Master Cook Rider went on travels and came back with Alf, he was not from the village and no one knew his history or parentage. And Firefoot, "prentice" does indeed mean "apprentice" as Alf's role was the apprentice to Master Cook Rider. This was all a ruse more or less so that he could plant a magic star in a cake. But you bring up something interesting about the whole anti minor works crusade. It's really kind of shameful the way that people are touting their ignorance as if it's something to be proud of. I mean, really, and you call yourselves Tolkien fans? Really! You won't even bother to read his minor works? I encourage everyone here to think twice before jumping to say "I haven't read them so I don't care." It's like saying, "I only listen to what's on Top 40 radio" or "I believe everything I see on TV." ! I personally wouldn't mind seeing Alf go, but right about now I'm feeling that it's my duty as the MWS moderator to stand up for the Tolkien that isn't LotR/Silm/Hobbit. The stuff only real fans have bothered to read. So, let's get rid of a megalomaniac who would be the first to jump on an anti minor works bandwagon: + + Sauron Maybe games like these should be incentive to become more knowledgable about the world of Tolkien, eh? Vote not in ingnorance, my friends. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

08-15-2006, 11:34 PM	#5
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	psst Diamond hush up and help me on this ruse okay! Well I was hoping that only Saucie would contradict my story but alas it wasn't to be, but at least he's mysterious and people like that. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-16-2006, 12:25 AM	#6
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Well, morm, if you change your vote from Merry to Sauron, that'll be 3 votes for Sauron, making the score: Alf -- 6 Sauron -- 3 Merry -- 2 If I change my vote it'll be Merry 3 and Sauron 2. However I dislike the idea of voting Merry here because Sauron is quite clearly more at odds with Alf than Merry is. He stands for all that is boring about stomping on the little guys and ignoring what's too small to merit his observation (read: anti minor works crusade) whereas Merry as a hobbit is too closely aligned to the overlooked end of things. By the by, Bb, how about changing your vote to Sauron, eh? Merry may be part of the hobbit upper class, but compared to the self proclaimed Lord of the Rings, well.... __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

08-16-2006, 04:02 AM	#7
Mirkgirl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 84	It's not that I don't like Alf. It's not that I haven't read the minor works. It's that I've read SoWM and the only thing I can remember is they put something in the cake - so I don't know atm enough to have an opinion on Alf. Oh and that just remembering A.L.F. every time they mentioned the boy's name was more entertaining than the story itself. Most management books I've read have left more trail in my memory (and thats the prose equal to vogon poetry) ++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie __________________ "Hobbits! Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this."