The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 07-26-2006, 04:24 PM

Some thoughts before I leave for the youth-camp...

I can't see any realistic scenario where the slaves go after the two kidnapped ones. The Easterlings took them at night by horses and the slaves don't know where and how far they went. And at the time of an imminent danger, splitting the group would be too dangerous and the chances of a successful mission minuscule.

So let the fellowship rescue them?

How about, if the slavers make a revenge-attack (to gain the lost property & new captives) the next night? The fellowship or some of the slaves might anticipate it and they would build a trap to them? Thence the situation might be made more even and the Fs & slaves might win.

The orcs would stay around as they would see that the slavers are not getting away when the day comes - waiting for the spoils the next night again. And how happy would they be to see almost all the slaver camp take to their horses and ride away when the night comes, leaving just the horseless ones + a couple extra perhaps to guard the camp (remember, they believe it was the few slaves with horses that made the robbery last night)?

Then on the next day after the nightly trap has worked and the slavers are defeated, the fellowship and the slaves would go to check the slavers camp for supplies and possibly meet the orcs there?

Or the orcs would get away from the slavers camp when seeing them coming towards the camp they have devastated and then the orcs would follow the fs & slaves in hope of supplies to steal from them?

Or something.

Nogrod · 07-26-2006, 06:52 PM

... a bit more, sorry...

So in the morning as the the fs & the slaves have greeted and appreciated each others (or not), they would realise that:
a) the slavers would be back the next night
b) open fight is too risky
c) fs knows where the slaver-camp is and could estimate there being lots of food & other stuff in there

They decide to move a bit forwards, finding a suitable location to the trap they would lay and then camp there?

In the evening they would put up decoy-sleepers by gathering sacks and bags and stones and whatever and cover them with blankets around small fires. Maybe a couple of guards out in the open just to look believable (not only one any more as they have the experience of the last night)? And all those able to use weapons - and to whom there are weapons to share - to wait in a suitable position, hidden from the sight of anyone approaching the camp?

Maybe some more sophisticated things too? If they would have a net, they could lay it through a suitable trail into the camp, laying it to the ground so that it could not be noticed from afar, and then hoist it as the riders come rushing over it? I believe we could come up with many possible traps together... If there would be a few trees or piles of stone / big rocks, some could hide in them and then drop the riders from their saddles with a simple rope that could be hoisted high enough when they pass the trees / rocks, whatever...

Just some ideas for you to elaborate...

Then a wish.

If the "battle" takes place before I come back, I would like someone of you to mention Hadith somewhere so that I could continue from there. My idea is, that he's now gotten an experience of not being able to do anything (the first phases of the first attack) and of succeeding (dropping the Easterling), of humiliation (been stolen the knife) and of a triumph (proving Khamir he had been right and making it somewhat in a "manly" fashion). So now he would need a real challenge with these manly arts he so much appreciates and seems to crave for.

So someone could note (or order, if it's Khamir

) him to take a responsible or tough place and maybe to notice him to have trouble with it. What I'm after is that Hadith would be very self-assured and proud to take that post and then learn that it's not so easy to be a hero...

PS.
I have sent Regin some outlines for the discussion between Ishkur's and Gwerr's little get-together from Gwerr's part. So Regin will be using Gwerr with my full approval and confidence while I'm away.

PS.2.
See you on the August 4th. I just can't wait to see where you have gotten this story by then!

Folwren · 07-26-2006, 07:16 PM

Good gracious! I like your thoughts Nogrod! Most of them, anyhow.

I really like the Fs and the slaves setting up some sort of ambush. That would be a good way to use their advantageous numbers and help get rid of a few of the slavers from the very get go.

However, about the orcs staying around. . .I would think that after having robbed all that they could carry, they would get out of their as quickly as possible. They don't want to stick around and run the risk of getting caught again. I think in their situation, they'd take only what they could carry, maybe (since they're orcs) destroy the rest, if they could do so safely, and then run off. But they're fairly smart- they won't do anything terribly unsafe. And I think that the slaves would really appreciate it if they didn't destroy the rest of the goods.

-- Folwren

Nogrod · 07-26-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

However, about the orcs staying around. . .I would think that after having robbed all that they could carry, they would get out of their as quickly as possible. They don't want to stick around and run the risk of getting caught again. I think in their situation, they'd take only what they could carry, maybe (since they're orcs) destroy the rest, if they could do so safely, and then run off. But they're fairly smart- they won't do anything terribly unsafe.

You speak like Gwerr, Folwren! That was just as he suggested in #107!

But I think our storyline requires the orcs at least to stick around somewhere...

I'm looking forwards to hear how Ishkur or / and Makdush argue the orcs to stay where they are and not take Gwerr's advice to get away asap, as they don't know of the requirements of the storyline.

Have fun everyone! I try to hold my horses at the camp without a possibility to check how this is going...

Tevildo · 07-27-2006, 01:04 AM

Let us hope that, with all this excellent planning, the fellowship or some other rescuer will come soon. Azhar has collapsed on the floor of the cave from some unknown trauma, unconscious and with a high fever. I have a feeling that the slavers will put up with a sullen, rebellious slave but they may have no interest in dragging along one who is seemingly half dead.

Folwren · 07-27-2006, 09:38 AM

How much time are we from the fellowship stepping in and taking the kids? I'm working on a post for Kwell and I would like to say that he heard something above him or from somewhere and although he doesn't know what it is, I think it could be from one of the fellowship. Is this doable?

-- Folwren

Child of the 7th Age · 07-27-2006, 10:01 AM

Sounds good, but could you hang on to that post for just a bit?

We've gotten our two volunteers to spy in camp: Carl and Vrór. Durelin will do an introductory post where she "accepts" the mission for her character and for the hobbit. At the end of her post, or possibly in Lindir's response, there will be an indication that the two have left camp. Once that indication goes up on the thread, Kwell should be able to hear something that would lead him to think that help is on the way.

Possibly one of the scouts could even make a reference back to having made more noise than is advisable.

I'm not sure about that, but you could write and ask them.....

***************

Folwren & Nogrod --

Durelin and I will look at some of the great ideas you've come up with and see if we think something is doable.

We are still short staffed, which makes it tough to get a continuous storyline going. I'll post another absence report later today.....

07-26-2006, 06:52 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	... a bit more, sorry... So in the morning as the the fs & the slaves have greeted and appreciated each others (or not), they would realise that: a) the slavers would be back the next night b) open fight is too risky c) fs knows where the slaver-camp is and could estimate there being lots of food & other stuff in there They decide to move a bit forwards, finding a suitable location to the trap they would lay and then camp there? In the evening they would put up decoy-sleepers by gathering sacks and bags and stones and whatever and cover them with blankets around small fires. Maybe a couple of guards out in the open just to look believable (not only one any more as they have the experience of the last night)? And all those able to use weapons - and to whom there are weapons to share - to wait in a suitable position, hidden from the sight of anyone approaching the camp? Maybe some more sophisticated things too? If they would have a net, they could lay it through a suitable trail into the camp, laying it to the ground so that it could not be noticed from afar, and then hoist it as the riders come rushing over it? I believe we could come up with many possible traps together... If there would be a few trees or piles of stone / big rocks, some could hide in them and then drop the riders from their saddles with a simple rope that could be hoisted high enough when they pass the trees / rocks, whatever... Just some ideas for you to elaborate... Then a wish. If the "battle" takes place before I come back, I would like someone of you to mention Hadith somewhere so that I could continue from there. My idea is, that he's now gotten an experience of not being able to do anything (the first phases of the first attack) and of succeeding (dropping the Easterling), of humiliation (been stolen the knife) and of a triumph (proving Khamir he had been right and making it somewhat in a "manly" fashion). So now he would need a real challenge with these manly arts he so much appreciates and seems to crave for. So someone could note (or order, if it's Khamir ) him to take a responsible or tough place and maybe to notice him to have trouble with it. What I'm after is that Hadith would be very self-assured and proud to take that post and then learn that it's not so easy to be a hero... PS. I have sent Regin some outlines for the discussion between Ishkur's and Gwerr's little get-together from Gwerr's part. So Regin will be using Gwerr with my full approval and confidence while I'm away. PS.2. See you on the August 4th. I just can't wait to see where you have gotten this story by then! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-26-2006, 07:16 PM	#3
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Good gracious! I like your thoughts Nogrod! Most of them, anyhow. I really like the Fs and the slaves setting up some sort of ambush. That would be a good way to use their advantageous numbers and help get rid of a few of the slavers from the very get go. However, about the orcs staying around. . .I would think that after having robbed all that they could carry, they would get out of their as quickly as possible. They don't want to stick around and run the risk of getting caught again. I think in their situation, they'd take only what they could carry, maybe (since they're orcs) destroy the rest, if they could do so safely, and then run off. But they're fairly smart- they won't do anything terribly unsafe. And I think that the slaves would really appreciate it if they didn't destroy the rest of the goods. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-27-2006, 01:04 AM	#5
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	Let us hope that, with all this excellent planning, the fellowship or some other rescuer will come soon. Azhar has collapsed on the floor of the cave from some unknown trauma, unconscious and with a high fever. I have a feeling that the slavers will put up with a sullen, rebellious slave but they may have no interest in dragging along one who is seemingly half dead. __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

07-27-2006, 09:38 AM	#6
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	How much time are we from the fellowship stepping in and taking the kids? I'm working on a post for Kwell and I would like to say that he heard something above him or from somewhere and although he doesn't know what it is, I think it could be from one of the fellowship. Is this doable? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-27-2006, 10:01 AM	#7
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Sounds good, but could you hang on to that post for just a bit? We've gotten our two volunteers to spy in camp: Carl and Vrór. Durelin will do an introductory post where she "accepts" the mission for her character and for the hobbit. At the end of her post, or possibly in Lindir's response, there will be an indication that the two have left camp. Once that indication goes up on the thread, Kwell should be able to hear something that would lead him to think that help is on the way. Possibly one of the scouts could even make a reference back to having made more noise than is advisable. I'm not sure about that, but you could write and ask them..... *************** Folwren & Nogrod -- Durelin and I will look at some of the great ideas you've come up with and see if we think something is doable. We are still short staffed, which makes it tough to get a continuous storyline going. I'll post another absence report later today..... __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote. Last edited by Child of the 7th Age; 07-27-2006 at 10:26 AM.

07-26-2006, 04:24 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Some thoughts before I leave for the youth-camp... I can't see any realistic scenario where the slaves go after the two kidnapped ones. The Easterlings took them at night by horses and the slaves don't know where and how far they went. And at the time of an imminent danger, splitting the group would be too dangerous and the chances of a successful mission minuscule. So let the fellowship rescue them? How about, if the slavers make a revenge-attack (to gain the lost property & new captives) the next night? The fellowship or some of the slaves might anticipate it and they would build a trap to them? Thence the situation might be made more even and the Fs & slaves might win. The orcs would stay around as they would see that the slavers are not getting away when the day comes - waiting for the spoils the next night again. And how happy would they be to see almost all the slaver camp take to their horses and ride away when the night comes, leaving just the horseless ones + a couple extra perhaps to guard the camp (remember, they believe it was the few slaves with horses that made the robbery last night)? Then on the next day after the nightly trap has worked and the slavers are defeated, the fellowship and the slaves would go to check the slavers camp for supplies and possibly meet the orcs there? Or the orcs would get away from the slavers camp when seeing them coming towards the camp they have devastated and then the orcs would follow the fs & slaves in hope of supplies to steal from them? Or something. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...