Abduction in Edoras Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

JennyHallu · 07-18-2006, 10:11 AM

FACTS:

There is no reason to continue to delay the rescue attempt. They know it's Sorn.
Sorn is loopy. Criminally insane. Has evil monologues.
No one trusts Sorn, even his own men.
We seem to be completely forgetting Osfrid and Muriel. Alcarillo, where do you stand with those characters, and what do you have planned for them?
Scyld trusts no one, including Linduial. He is aware his best chance is with her, but does not trust her offer.

Folwren · 07-18-2006, 10:19 AM

Firefoot - why can't Skyld go to Edoras? It would do him tons of good to just go and own up. They might even have mercy on him if he delivers Lin.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-18-2006, 10:22 AM

A day shall come when I give a truly evil monologue... maybe even several... I'm rather jealous of Sorn, to be honest. Monologues rock. He's more fun than even Pigle-- I mean Hamlet.

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Okay... Here are things as I see them:

Sorn has Lin.

The party knows that Sorn has Lin.

We need time in between the party getting to Sorn and Lin without Lin's life ending abruptly.

Does Sorn necessarily know that a party is on its way? Is it possible that he could have some sort of bitter monologue about how servants are not to be trusted and the ransom note must not have even made it to Edoras and he ought to kill a servant to prove the point? You know... something lovely like that showing that Lin's got a bit more time to live because Sorn's going to send another note? Or something?

That gives the search party a window of opportunity in which to be unavoidably detained during which their writers won't have to worry about Lin suddenly dying in the mean time.

...

*thinking aloud*

Firefoot · 07-18-2006, 10:37 AM

Okay, so I guess Scyld could go to Edoras, if turning Lin in was his goal - I was under the impression that if he was 'taking Lin into his own hands' it would be to try and escape the law. But that would be a rather boring ending. And, insofar as Scyld doesn't even trust Linduial, I doubt he'd trust the law enough just to give himself up to it.

And Jenny brings up an excellent point about Osfrid and Muriel - what is going on there? Is there any way that they might try to get out with Lin and hold out for ransom as LMP suggested Scyld might do?

littlemanpoet · 07-18-2006, 02:29 PM

If Scyld won't try to get ransom, how about Sorn deciding to kill Linduial, Scyld getting wind of it, and Scyld sneaking off with Lin to save her from Sorn? Then you have your hiding part, and a new wrinkle in the entire story that could take --- whole days!!! --- to figure out, and then we can have all the fun of Sorn and the rescue party BOTH looking for the two runaways, and, and, and, well, it sounds fun to me!

Firefoot · 07-19-2006, 07:44 PM

I'm going to be away until the 29th and without internet access. Basically, where Scyld and Haleth are at... Scyld is going to be snappish (he may leave Lin alone for a while, if you want to send him off, Jenny), but not in an altogether bad mood. He will still bring Linduial her meals... same quality food.

Haleth is going to be feeling like a complete fool for letting Osfrid and Muriel go and may come across as rather desperate. You all can use Haleth as much as you want... I still don't really have the feeling that he's my character. So have fun with him, don't hold up the good guys waiting for me.

Alcarillo · 07-20-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

And Jenny brings up an excellent point about Osfrid and Muriel - what is going on there? Is there any way that they might try to get out with Lin and hold out for ransom as LMP suggested Scyld might do?

I'm afraid Osfrid's much too cowardly to hold anybody for ransom. He's more suited to petty crimes like theft or robbery. Too great of a risk with Lin, you see...

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Originally Posted by lmp

If Scyld won't try to get ransom, how about Sorn deciding to kill Linduial, Scyld getting wind of it, and Scyld sneaking off with Lin to save her from Sorn? Then you have your hiding part, and a new wrinkle in the entire story that could take --- whole days!!! --- to figure out, and then we can have all the fun of Sorn and the rescue party BOTH looking for the two runaways, and, and, and, well, it sounds fun to me!

Hmm... not to mention the unexpected loss of Gurth. Sorn would have his hands full for sure searching for both Gurth and Scyld/Lin, certainly with a band of mead-hallers on his tail. I can just see him snapping from all the pressure in a fit of rage... a classic Sorn moment...

JennyHallu · 07-20-2006, 07:27 PM

I like that idea, lmp...really sounds good.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-22-2006, 02:46 PM

I won't be around much for the next month. Just thought I'd let you guys know.

littlemanpoet · 08-03-2006, 03:08 PM

What can be done to un-stall this rpg?

Folwren · 08-03-2006, 03:29 PM

I should post. Really I should. But one post won't unstick it.

EDIT: I don't actually have time to do that now, but later this evening I should.

-- Folwren

Alcarillo · 08-04-2006, 04:58 PM

I can post a save and bring Osfrid and Muriel back to Sorn's home.

Taralphiel · 08-04-2006, 10:12 PM

Alcarillo: Feel free to pester Sorn if you like.

I'll try to work a post up after Alc, but at the moment I don't know what much Sorn can do apart from his trusty monologues

Yes, they are so VERY fun! *giggles*

- Tara

Folwren · 08-05-2006, 08:40 PM

Hiya! I was trying to write a post to post up, but then I realized that I didn't have half enough the details that I need. Won't Haleth send some sort of message up to the Queen? Are they going to Meduseld to speak with her before they even gallop off? Aren't they going to get quite a handful of men to go? Where are they going from the Mead Hall - to the gates or to Meduseld?

Besides all those questions, I am sooo tired that in the past hour I've hardly written anything and none of it is good.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet · 08-05-2006, 08:45 PM

My thought was for a company of men to start off immediately, to be followed by more later as they could be marshalled. Urgency. Thus, Haleth, I suppose, allows Eodwine, Garstan, Thornden and Deren, with a few others, start off right away, and takes care of marshalling more to follow after, at a probably slower pace. This means that perhaps the foremost company is at most a dozen, at least a half dozen, followed by perhaps 20, 40, or 60 more depending upon what is considered most appropriate. But that's just my thought.

Folwren · 08-05-2006, 08:49 PM

Oh. Where are these dozen, or half dozen, men? Are they at the Mead Hall? Which, as was mentioned in some post, is the unnoficial headquarters for the search party people? I don't think it's too ridiculous to think that there would be a handful of men there. They could take whatever men there were there and go.

From what you just said, I take it Haleth will not be leaving immediately but will tell the queen what is happening and get together the big bunch of people?

I'm really, trully, honestly going to bed now, so you can answer at your leisure. I'll hopefully write something tomorrow.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet · 08-06-2006, 02:19 PM

I figure the half dozen men are at the Mead Hall; they gotta stay somewhere, and I'm betting Meduseld can't hold them all.

And yes, I figure Haleth is going to report to the Queen and lead a follow-up party.

I'll wait to post until after you have, Foley.

JennyHallu · 08-14-2006, 07:30 AM

Sorry I've been gone: a family emergency pulled me away for the past several days with no chance to post anything here. Can we try to get together some sort of summary of what's going on and where we plan to go? Firefoot, what say you to lmp's idea of how to use Scyld to lengthen our timeline to where it ought to be?

littlemanpoet · 08-20-2006, 03:15 PM

Thanks for posting, Celuien. Seems we have ourselves some suspense!

I had been thinking that Sorn would send somebody out, but I kinda like what you've written. Eodwine will of course say "no, you shan't go alone, not on my honor! I've made a vow and I intend to keep it! So I'm going with you!" And we get to have the opportunity for Garstan to ironically save Eodwine's life instead of vice versa. But what are you thinking of leading up to, Celuien? Anybody else want to weigh in?

Celuien · 08-20-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Thanks for posting, Celuien. Seems we have ourselves some suspense!

I had been thinking that Sorn would send somebody out, but I kinda like what you've written. Eodwine will of course say "no, you shan't go alone, not on my honor! I've made a vow and I intend to keep it! So I'm going with you!" And we get to have the opportunity for Garstan to ironically save Eodwine's life instead of vice versa. But what are you thinking of leading up to, Celuien? Anybody else want to weigh in?

That's where I was hoping the post would lead. I've been puzzling over how Garstan was going to get in the way of the attack on Eodwine, and this seemed like a reasonable place to set something up.

I'm sure that Sorn will still send someone out (or come himself?). Maybe they'll meet halfway...

littlemanpoet · 08-20-2006, 03:26 PM

Okay, so Sorn sends someone out who stops half way, and Garstan and Eodwine meet him there, and they talk, and the terms are finally learned in detail (?), and as the "stooge" starts walking away, arrows start flying (because Sorn's nuts) and Garstan takes one meant for Eodwine, then they "skidaddle". Sound good? Who wants to post up either this or something else first? I'm not sure how many henchmen Sorn has. Maybe this could be - um - Alcarillo's character (whose name I forget)?

Celuien · 08-20-2006, 03:37 PM

Sounds good. One minor point:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmp, MH #326

Eodwine had sworn to protect Garstan with his life, but it had been Garstan who had thrown himself in the way of an errant, or perhaps not so errant, dagger, and had taken the wound meant for Eodwine's heart, in his own arm.

So someone with a dagger instead of the arrows?

littlemanpoet · 08-20-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celuien

Sounds good. One minor point:

So someone with a dagger instead of the arrows?

Hmmm, that could be tricky. Someone would have to get close enough. It would have to be Sorn himself, who in his madness of hate and rage and envy at the new Eorl, would not be able to resist the temptation to have a go at him "here and now". So he would have to have a hiding place very close to the meeting spot, which would be suspicious to at least one of the two of Garstan and Eodwine, right? Garstan, no doubt, since one of Eodwine's character flaws (oft forgotten except when it comes in handy) is to slightly oblivious of his surroundings, so focused on the "thing before his eyes". That should work. A wall? A shack? A postern? ????

Firefoot · 08-21-2006, 10:33 AM

Save filled. Sorry it took so long. My weekend was a bit nuts.

Taralphiel · 08-23-2006, 05:23 AM

Hi all,

Sorry I'm weighing in here late. I do think it would be plausible that Sorn try something like that. It's sneaky enough for him, and obviously insane enough.

In this case, it would mean Sorn is eavesdropping, and someone is the 'stooge' doing the talking, correct? Who would that be?

In the even of this outburst, what would become of Sorn? I have a feeling Sorn may not survive this story, but to fall at this point may be too soon? Anyone can feel free to give their thoughts on this.

I can imagine him hiding amongst bushes, or a secret alternate exit from the cellars leading around (though my geography is poor and perhaps that stretches way too far). But these are just my initial thoughts.

I think it's a good idea! I just need to work out the finer points of getting Sorn where he needs to be.

I'll start working on a post, however I do need that volunteer to be Sorn's representative.

Suggestions on all things are welcome

- Tara

JennyHallu · 08-23-2006, 06:04 AM

The 'volunteer' is probably Scyld or Osfrid. Where are Osfrid and his writer, by the by? We misses them....

Celuien · 08-23-2006, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taralphiel

In the even of this outburst, what would become of Sorn? I have a feeling Sorn may not survive this story, but to fall at this point may be too soon? Anyone can feel free to give their thoughts on this.

I'd agree that this is too soon for Sorn's demise, if he is doomed not to survive...we have to let him get away to cause more mischief.

Actually, Firefoot raised a point earlier about Sorn and Linduial:

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

Scyld isn't going to leave until he has something "concrete" - i.e., he knows that Sorn's killing Lin has been a possibility for a while, and even with Sorn's recent rampage, he doesn't really know if he is closer to killing her now than before.

So, is this encounter with Eodwine and company enough to push Sorn over the edge to decide it's time to kill Lin? And to trigger Scyld's escape with her?

Firefoot · 08-23-2006, 07:47 AM

Apparently, Alcarillo hasn't logged in since the 17th...

I don't think it would be entirely likely that Scyld would be the messenger - wouldn't a jailor be all the more necessary now that there's a rescue party? And I'm not sure Sorn would trust him with it anyway.

As for Osfrid - he would be a good choice, if it doesn't matter whether they recognize him or not.

littlemanpoet · 08-24-2006, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celuien

So, is this encounter with Eodwine and company enough to push Sorn over the edge to decide it's time to kill Lin? And to trigger Scyld's escape with her?

That is pretty much what I've been trying to arrange for.

I suppose someone ought to PM Alcarillo, and if there's no response within a couple days, then someone could write Osfrid for Alc, and Alc can change whatever he wants later on. Thoughts?

Alcarillo · 08-24-2006, 09:36 PM

Don't worry! I'm here, after a temperory hiatus from the Downs.

Now to read the RPG, fill that save...

07-18-2006, 10:11 AM	#1
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	FACTS: There is no reason to continue to delay the rescue attempt. They know it's Sorn. Sorn is loopy. Criminally insane. Has evil monologues. No one trusts Sorn, even his own men. We seem to be completely forgetting Osfrid and Muriel. Alcarillo, where do you stand with those characters, and what do you have planned for them? Scyld trusts no one, including Linduial. He is aware his best chance is with her, but does not trust her offer. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

07-18-2006, 10:19 AM	#2
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Firefoot - why can't Skyld go to Edoras? It would do him tons of good to just go and own up. They might even have mercy on him if he delivers Lin. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-19-2006, 07:44 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	And just when this is getting so interesting... I'm going to be away until the 29th and without internet access. Basically, where Scyld and Haleth are at... Scyld is going to be snappish (he may leave Lin alone for a while, if you want to send him off, Jenny), but not in an altogether bad mood. He will still bring Linduial her meals... same quality food. Haleth is going to be feeling like a complete fool for letting Osfrid and Muriel go and may come across as rather desperate. You all can use Haleth as much as you want... I still don't really have the feeling that he's my character. So have fun with him, don't hold up the good guys waiting for me. Last edited by Firefoot; 07-19-2006 at 08:10 PM.

07-20-2006, 07:27 PM	#8
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I like that idea, lmp...really sounds good. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

07-22-2006, 02:46 PM	#9
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I won't be around much for the next month. Just thought I'd let you guys know. __________________ peace

07-18-2006, 10:22 AM	#3
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	A day shall come when I give a truly evil monologue... maybe even several... I'm rather jealous of Sorn, to be honest. Monologues rock. He's more fun than even Pigle-- I mean Hamlet. ---------------------- Okay... Here are things as I see them: Sorn has Lin. The party knows that Sorn has Lin. We need time in between the party getting to Sorn and Lin without Lin's life ending abruptly. Does Sorn necessarily know that a party is on its way? Is it possible that he could have some sort of bitter monologue about how servants are not to be trusted and the ransom note must not have even made it to Edoras and he ought to kill a servant to prove the point? You know... something lovely like that showing that Lin's got a bit more time to live because Sorn's going to send another note? Or something? That gives the search party a window of opportunity in which to be unavoidably detained during which their writers won't have to worry about Lin suddenly dying in the mean time. ... thinking aloud __________________ peace

07-18-2006, 10:37 AM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Okay, so I guess Scyld could go to Edoras, if turning Lin in was his goal - I was under the impression that if he was 'taking Lin into his own hands' it would be to try and escape the law. But that would be a rather boring ending. And, insofar as Scyld doesn't even trust Linduial, I doubt he'd trust the law enough just to give himself up to it. And Jenny brings up an excellent point about Osfrid and Muriel - what is going on there? Is there any way that they might try to get out with Lin and hold out for ransom as LMP suggested Scyld might do?

07-18-2006, 02:29 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	If Scyld won't try to get ransom, how about Sorn deciding to kill Linduial, Scyld getting wind of it, and Scyld sneaking off with Lin to save her from Sorn? Then you have your hiding part, and a new wrinkle in the entire story that could take --- whole days!!! --- to figure out, and then we can have all the fun of Sorn and the rescue party BOTH looking for the two runaways, and, and, and, well, it sounds fun to me!

08-03-2006, 03:08 PM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	What can be done to un-stall this rpg?

08-03-2006, 03:29 PM	#11
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I should post. Really I should. But one post won't unstick it. EDIT: I don't actually have time to do that now, but later this evening I should. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-04-2006, 04:58 PM	#12
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	I can post a save and bring Osfrid and Muriel back to Sorn's home.

08-04-2006, 10:12 PM	#13
Taralphiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Swan Wood Posts: 649	Alcarillo: Feel free to pester Sorn if you like. I'll try to work a post up after Alc, but at the moment I don't know what much Sorn can do apart from his trusty monologues Yes, they are so VERY fun! giggles - Tara

08-05-2006, 08:40 PM	#14
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Hiya! I was trying to write a post to post up, but then I realized that I didn't have half enough the details that I need. Won't Haleth send some sort of message up to the Queen? Are they going to Meduseld to speak with her before they even gallop off? Aren't they going to get quite a handful of men to go? Where are they going from the Mead Hall - to the gates or to Meduseld? Besides all those questions, I am sooo tired that in the past hour I've hardly written anything and none of it is good. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-05-2006, 08:45 PM	#15
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	My thought was for a company of men to start off immediately, to be followed by more later as they could be marshalled. Urgency. Thus, Haleth, I suppose, allows Eodwine, Garstan, Thornden and Deren, with a few others, start off right away, and takes care of marshalling more to follow after, at a probably slower pace. This means that perhaps the foremost company is at most a dozen, at least a half dozen, followed by perhaps 20, 40, or 60 more depending upon what is considered most appropriate. But that's just my thought.

08-05-2006, 08:49 PM	#16
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Oh. Where are these dozen, or half dozen, men? Are they at the Mead Hall? Which, as was mentioned in some post, is the unnoficial headquarters for the search party people? I don't think it's too ridiculous to think that there would be a handful of men there. They could take whatever men there were there and go. From what you just said, I take it Haleth will not be leaving immediately but will tell the queen what is happening and get together the big bunch of people? I'm really, trully, honestly going to bed now, so you can answer at your leisure. I'll hopefully write something tomorrow. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-06-2006, 02:19 PM	#17
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I figure the half dozen men are at the Mead Hall; they gotta stay somewhere, and I'm betting Meduseld can't hold them all. And yes, I figure Haleth is going to report to the Queen and lead a follow-up party. I'll wait to post until after you have, Foley.

08-14-2006, 07:30 AM	#18
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Sorry I've been gone: a family emergency pulled me away for the past several days with no chance to post anything here. Can we try to get together some sort of summary of what's going on and where we plan to go? Firefoot, what say you to lmp's idea of how to use Scyld to lengthen our timeline to where it ought to be? __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

08-20-2006, 03:15 PM	#19
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Thanks for posting, Celuien. Seems we have ourselves some suspense! I had been thinking that Sorn would send somebody out, but I kinda like what you've written. Eodwine will of course say "no, you shan't go alone, not on my honor! I've made a vow and I intend to keep it! So I'm going with you!" And we get to have the opportunity for Garstan to ironically save Eodwine's life instead of vice versa. But what are you thinking of leading up to, Celuien? Anybody else want to weigh in?

08-20-2006, 03:26 PM	#21
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Okay, so Sorn sends someone out who stops half way, and Garstan and Eodwine meet him there, and they talk, and the terms are finally learned in detail (?), and as the "stooge" starts walking away, arrows start flying (because Sorn's nuts) and Garstan takes one meant for Eodwine, then they "skidaddle". Sound good? Who wants to post up either this or something else first? I'm not sure how many henchmen Sorn has. Maybe this could be - um - Alcarillo's character (whose name I forget)?

08-21-2006, 10:33 AM	#24
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Save filled. Sorry it took so long. My weekend was a bit nuts.

08-23-2006, 05:23 AM	#25
Taralphiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Swan Wood Posts: 649	Hi all, Sorry I'm weighing in here late. I do think it would be plausible that Sorn try something like that. It's sneaky enough for him, and obviously insane enough. In this case, it would mean Sorn is eavesdropping, and someone is the 'stooge' doing the talking, correct? Who would that be? In the even of this outburst, what would become of Sorn? I have a feeling Sorn may not survive this story, but to fall at this point may be too soon? Anyone can feel free to give their thoughts on this. I can imagine him hiding amongst bushes, or a secret alternate exit from the cellars leading around (though my geography is poor and perhaps that stretches way too far). But these are just my initial thoughts. I think it's a good idea! I just need to work out the finer points of getting Sorn where he needs to be. I'll start working on a post, however I do need that volunteer to be Sorn's representative. Suggestions on all things are welcome - Tara Last edited by Taralphiel; 08-23-2006 at 05:27 AM.

08-23-2006, 06:04 AM	#26
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	The 'volunteer' is probably Scyld or Osfrid. Where are Osfrid and his writer, by the by? We misses them.... __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

08-23-2006, 07:47 AM	#28
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Apparently, Alcarillo hasn't logged in since the 17th... I don't think it would be entirely likely that Scyld would be the messenger - wouldn't a jailor be all the more necessary now that there's a rescue party? And I'm not sure Sorn would trust him with it anyway. As for Osfrid - he would be a good choice, if it doesn't matter whether they recognize him or not.

08-24-2006, 09:36 PM	#30
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	Don't worry! I'm here, after a temperory hiatus from the Downs. Now to read the RPG, fill that save...