Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 07-12-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyHallu

Oh and a question for Lommy: How fluent is Modtryth in the Rohirric tongue?

She will be away for more than a week, but as we have discussed and created our characters at length together, I can answer this.

Modtryth is a native speaker. She has been born and is raised in Rohan, in a rohanian household (his father being one too) and is pretty knowledgeable of her language skills...

She might have a bit "northern-rohanian" accent as Stigend, but that should be not a problem.

Nogrod · 07-12-2006, 01:27 PM

I hope our planning-party will assemble today. I had already written a post to start it but then I found a few things I had to check with Celuien and lmp first (I've PM'd them and hope to have their answers soon enough).

Fea: did you write Saeryn to the table where all of us (Eodwine, Garstan and Stigend) were sitting or somewhere where Eodwine was alone?

JennyHallu · 07-12-2006, 01:39 PM

Ha! Fea...Marenil "in need of a diversion"? Saeri has no idea what a juggernaut Marenil's new appointment has released...hehehe...He'll eventually give her a "talking-to" about the role of Eodwine's Lady...

And I think we may need a full-time housekeeper, especially as the building grows. And I wonder if we should build a second residential wing. The one we have is getting filled up.

Ok...my ideas on jobs:

Eodwine:
oversees all these, of course, and should have at least a finger, and no more than a hand, in every pie, unless something goes wrong. Saeryn would probably take a more active role in overseeing the housekeeper than Eodwine.

Saeryn:
Oversees housekeeper
Hostess for guests
Has authority to make decisions for Eodwine in the lord's absence

Marenil (Steward):

Keeps the books for the Emnet
Hears and filters callers on Eodwine (as any good secretary would)
Oversees contractual labor, housekeeper, almbudsman

Has authority to make decisions for Eodwine in the lord's and lady's absence
Thornden (Almbudsman):

Spokesman for Eodwine or his steward
Tax collector
Herald of sorts
Eodwine's squire and aide-de-camp in time of war

Not-yet-existent housekeeper (Modtryth?):

Keeps the books for the Hall (Answerable to Marenil)
Makes lists for market days
Final decision on purchases of foodstuffs.

Oversees domestic labor (Answerable to Saeryn)
Kara (Cook):
Prepares menus and meals for household and guests.
Keeps inventory of pantries and larders.

Leof (Ostler):
Cares for and exercises horses, mules, and ponies of household and guests.
Cares for and repairs tack and equipment thereof
Keeps inventories of grainbins and other usable supplies

Trystan (general labor):

Does what he's told

? (Maid):

Does general cleaning, cares for guest and household rooms.
Does or helps with laundry and mending.

Does or helps with market.Helps in kitchen on feastdays?

Garwine (Master-of-Arms):
Oversees security of the Lord's holdings
Oversees mercenaries and armsmen sworn to Eodwine (I assume at some point Eodwine shall need more than one armsman, especially with the rapid growth of his household)
Keeps books for these expenses.

Garstan (Stonemason) & Stigend (Carpenter):
Artisans sworn to Eodwine
Performs work to rebuild Hall...we'll have to rethink that when the Hall's done.

Characters who aren't quite guests:
Manawyth (Bard):
His role as bard is one with rather loosely defined duties, and as such he falls really under the purview of no one but Eodwine, just because he's not a laborer to need direct supervision.

Lys:
Though I assume he will take up some duty when he heals (Pageboy? Groom?), he's not yet capable of it.

The children (Garmund, Cnebba, Lèoðern): duties not really defined...probably more as helpers to their own parents than anything more formal.

Guests:
Linduial
Degas
Falco
Nain

I'll edit more into this as I think of it and write it up. For now, what do ya'll think?EDIT: Added more people and tasks. I don't know whom of the servants of the hall are literate or not...Marenil is, and obviously the lord and lady, and Thornden, but I don't think anyone's considered it much beyond those. I've also added tasks it looks to me could use filled, that aren't right now. Marenil may advise keeping an eye out for laborers to fill these positions.

Nogrod · 07-12-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyHallu

And I wonder if we should build a second residential wing. The one we have is getting filled up.

Funny you should mention that. I had just suggested via PM to lmp & Celuien, that as a part of the renovation we could build more lodging or something and not just a long corridor with no other functions... Marenil might bring that up?

Kath · 07-12-2006, 01:43 PM

That looks fine to me Jenny, except that I think the 'making list for market day' is more likely to be Kara and Frodides' job rather than the housekeeper, as they will have a better idea of what they've used and what is needed.

JennyHallu · 07-12-2006, 01:53 PM

Things needed for market day encompasses far more than just groceries. I figured that Kara and Frodides would prepare a grocery list and hand it off to the housekeeper, who would add what other supplies were needed: feed for horses, soap, needle and thread, cloth, clean rushes for the floor...

I hadn't yet sorted out Kara and Frodides' duties...I'll do that when I get home. Workday's about over.

Kath · 07-12-2006, 02:03 PM

Ok that sounds about fair.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Ooh, fun. Saeryn won't be overly happy, I can see it already. You see, she really likes the role of housekeeper. She won't hand it over without a fight. Even if trying to balance that and ladyship will kill her by way of exhaustion.

I can see a confrontation with Eodwine in the near future. "Eodwine, tell your steward that his suggestions of my incapability are entirely unwelcome. And stop being so disagreeable, you're getting on my nerves." Mwahaha.

07-12-2006, 01:27 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I hope our planning-party will assemble today. I had already written a post to start it but then I found a few things I had to check with Celuien and lmp first (I've PM'd them and hope to have their answers soon enough). Fea: did you write Saeryn to the table where all of us (Eodwine, Garstan and Stigend) were sitting or somewhere where Eodwine was alone? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-12-2006, 01:39 PM	#3
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Ha! Fea...Marenil "in need of a diversion"? Saeri has no idea what a juggernaut Marenil's new appointment has released...hehehe...He'll eventually give her a "talking-to" about the role of Eodwine's Lady... And I think we may need a full-time housekeeper, especially as the building grows. And I wonder if we should build a second residential wing. The one we have is getting filled up. Ok...my ideas on jobs: Eodwine: oversees all these, of course, and should have at least a finger, and no more than a hand, in every pie, unless something goes wrong. Saeryn would probably take a more active role in overseeing the housekeeper than Eodwine. Saeryn: Oversees housekeeper Hostess for guests Has authority to make decisions for Eodwine in the lord's absence Marenil (Steward): Keeps the books for the Emnet Hears and filters callers on Eodwine (as any good secretary would) Oversees contractual labor, housekeeper, almbudsman Has authority to make decisions for Eodwine in the lord's and lady's absence Thornden (Almbudsman): Spokesman for Eodwine or his steward Tax collector Herald of sorts Eodwine's squire and aide-de-camp in time of war Not-yet-existent housekeeper (Modtryth?): Keeps the books for the Hall (Answerable to Marenil) Makes lists for market days Final decision on purchases of foodstuffs. Oversees domestic labor (Answerable to Saeryn) Kara (Cook): Prepares menus and meals for household and guests. Keeps inventory of pantries and larders. Leof (Ostler): Cares for and exercises horses, mules, and ponies of household and guests. Cares for and repairs tack and equipment thereof Keeps inventories of grainbins and other usable supplies Trystan (general labor): Does what he's told ? (Maid): Does general cleaning, cares for guest and household rooms. Does or helps with laundry and mending. Does or helps with market.Helps in kitchen on feastdays? Garwine (Master-of-Arms): Oversees security of the Lord's holdings Oversees mercenaries and armsmen sworn to Eodwine (I assume at some point Eodwine shall need more than one armsman, especially with the rapid growth of his household) Keeps books for these expenses. Garstan (Stonemason) & Stigend (Carpenter): Artisans sworn to Eodwine Performs work to rebuild Hall...we'll have to rethink that when the Hall's done. Characters who aren't quite guests: Manawyth (Bard): His role as bard is one with rather loosely defined duties, and as such he falls really under the purview of no one but Eodwine, just because he's not a laborer to need direct supervision. Lys: Though I assume he will take up some duty when he heals (Pageboy? Groom?), he's not yet capable of it. The children (Garmund, Cnebba, Lèoðern): duties not really defined...probably more as helpers to their own parents than anything more formal. Guests: Linduial Degas Falco Nain I'll edit more into this as I think of it and write it up. For now, what do ya'll think?EDIT: Added more people and tasks. I don't know whom of the servants of the hall are literate or not...Marenil is, and obviously the lord and lady, and Thornden, but I don't think anyone's considered it much beyond those. I've also added tasks it looks to me could use filled, that aren't right now. Marenil may advise keeping an eye out for laborers to fill these positions. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles! Last edited by JennyHallu; 07-12-2006 at 03:03 PM.

07-12-2006, 01:43 PM	#5
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	That looks fine to me Jenny, except that I think the 'making list for market day' is more likely to be Kara and Frodides' job rather than the housekeeper, as they will have a better idea of what they've used and what is needed. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

07-12-2006, 01:53 PM	#6
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Things needed for market day encompasses far more than just groceries. I figured that Kara and Frodides would prepare a grocery list and hand it off to the housekeeper, who would add what other supplies were needed: feed for horses, soap, needle and thread, cloth, clean rushes for the floor... I hadn't yet sorted out Kara and Frodides' duties...I'll do that when I get home. Workday's about over. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

07-12-2006, 02:03 PM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Ok that sounds about fair. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

07-12-2006, 02:23 PM	#8
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Ooh, fun. Saeryn won't be overly happy, I can see it already. You see, she really likes the role of housekeeper. She won't hand it over without a fight. Even if trying to balance that and ladyship will kill her by way of exhaustion. I can see a confrontation with Eodwine in the near future. "Eodwine, tell your steward that his suggestions of my incapability are entirely unwelcome. And stop being so disagreeable, you're getting on my nerves." Mwahaha. __________________ peace