Abduction in Edoras Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Folwren · 07-07-2006, 09:56 AM

Well, it is my opinion that Osfrid had better be gone by then because if not, then someone should have noticed him hanging about before now. He told everyone on the first night that he was just passing through. If Eodwine, Thornden, Haleth, or Garstan didn't notice him, then Deren just might sometime if he sees him while he's reporting. 'Hey, you! I thought you were passing right through here to see your dying mother in law?'

And before we let Torim go, we might want to find out just where he saw Sorn and Lin and where Sorn lives, so they don't have to go to all the trouble of looking him up and finding them on their own.

-- Folwren

JennyHallu · 07-07-2006, 11:34 AM

Lin's rather decisively innocent. She's intelligent, and perceptive, but to a large degree she interpretes what she sees around her to fit a personal vision of the world as it ought to be. For that reason, her perspective emphasizes the slightly unhinged nature of Sorn's obsession. While she doesn't underestimate his intelligence and craftiness, she chooses (albeit unconsciously) to see him primarily as a maniac. While I think Sorn's a little off, I don't think he's as crazy as Lin does, and in this case, her innocence isn't working for her. It increases her fear of him, and prevents her from trying to think like him and thus predict his actions.

With Scyld, on the other hand, she chooses to interprete his rather safe and minimal help to her as a sign of a man essentially good, perhaps even an idealist, and believes he follows Sorn as a result of extreme bad luck and disillusionment. She interpretes his bitterness as a chronic disappointment in the real world, and firmly believes that she can reverse it, and encourage him to truly cast his lot in with hers. I don't know if this is a true way of seeing him, but so far it does seem to be working for her. It seems to unsettle Scyld, at the least.

Just some thoughts I decided to share. Hopefully that will help you, Tara and Firefoot, in your characters' interactions with her.

Meanwhile I'll keep trying to establish rapport between Lin and her gaolers without creating a rather well-written case of Stockholm's Syndrome. Please warn me if I seem to be drifting in that direction. That's not the sort of relationship I mean to imply.

Celuien · 07-07-2006, 04:12 PM

Save will be filled tomorrow. Garstan is quite likely to have noticed Osfrid while he was at the hall. While his interaction with Lèoðern was apparently innocent enough, she and Garmund have certainly reported that they had the conversation, chatty children that they are. That description is now going to put a new spin on his interpretation of the questioning.

Taralphiel · 07-07-2006, 10:00 PM

I've added a save in too, so I don't get too far behind :P

I ask again, what would be the best time of day? If no-one can answer, I'll put it as afternoon, to take into account the time since Osfrid and Muriel left.

- Tara

Celuien · 07-08-2006, 07:13 AM

Save filled. I've assumed that Osfrid and Muriel left, but if they should still be at the hall, I'll gladly edit.

And, sorry to be a pain, but Alcarillo, could I request one change to Lèoðern's dialogue?

Quote:

"Yeah! I went there. The fair was fun."

to
"Yes! I went there. The fair was fun."

Firefoot · 07-08-2006, 07:50 AM

Concerning Osfrid's and Muriel's whereabouts: Being that they said they were moving right on, they must not be at the Mead Hall; however, they aren't back at Sorn's house, either - that leaves a two Day gap for them... Alcarillo, did you say something about them being able to enjoy the fair as well while they were there? Because that would account for it. There are, after all, other inns beside the Mead Hall that they could have stayed at.

Quote:

I ask again, what would be the best time of day? If no-one can answer, I'll put it as afternoon, to take into account the time since Osfrid and Muriel left.

Tara, we've taken a time jump of two days, making this the third day since Osfrid and Muriel left. It's in the morning.

Taralphiel · 07-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Thank you very much for that, Fire! Playing catch-up tends to get a little confusing.

I'll play with my post a little more and put it up.

Also, I thought I'd try to let you know how busy I'll be this week. It's Sunday for me now, and I'll probably be unable to post until Wednesday (workplace exams till then *dies*). So if someone notices Sorn, that's when I'll have time to get back to you

- Tara

Firefoot · 07-09-2006, 04:34 PM

Save filled.

07-07-2006, 09:56 AM	#1
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Well, it is my opinion that Osfrid had better be gone by then because if not, then someone should have noticed him hanging about before now. He told everyone on the first night that he was just passing through. If Eodwine, Thornden, Haleth, or Garstan didn't notice him, then Deren just might sometime if he sees him while he's reporting. 'Hey, you! I thought you were passing right through here to see your dying mother in law?' And before we let Torim go, we might want to find out just where he saw Sorn and Lin and where Sorn lives, so they don't have to go to all the trouble of looking him up and finding them on their own. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-07-2006, 11:34 AM	#2
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Lin's rather decisively innocent. She's intelligent, and perceptive, but to a large degree she interpretes what she sees around her to fit a personal vision of the world as it ought to be. For that reason, her perspective emphasizes the slightly unhinged nature of Sorn's obsession. While she doesn't underestimate his intelligence and craftiness, she chooses (albeit unconsciously) to see him primarily as a maniac. While I think Sorn's a little off, I don't think he's as crazy as Lin does, and in this case, her innocence isn't working for her. It increases her fear of him, and prevents her from trying to think like him and thus predict his actions. With Scyld, on the other hand, she chooses to interprete his rather safe and minimal help to her as a sign of a man essentially good, perhaps even an idealist, and believes he follows Sorn as a result of extreme bad luck and disillusionment. She interpretes his bitterness as a chronic disappointment in the real world, and firmly believes that she can reverse it, and encourage him to truly cast his lot in with hers. I don't know if this is a true way of seeing him, but so far it does seem to be working for her. It seems to unsettle Scyld, at the least. Just some thoughts I decided to share. Hopefully that will help you, Tara and Firefoot, in your characters' interactions with her. Meanwhile I'll keep trying to establish rapport between Lin and her gaolers without creating a rather well-written case of Stockholm's Syndrome. Please warn me if I seem to be drifting in that direction. That's not the sort of relationship I mean to imply. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

07-07-2006, 04:12 PM	#3
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Save will be filled tomorrow. Garstan is quite likely to have noticed Osfrid while he was at the hall. While his interaction with Lèoðern was apparently innocent enough, she and Garmund have certainly reported that they had the conversation, chatty children that they are. That description is now going to put a new spin on his interpretation of the questioning. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

07-08-2006, 08:34 PM	#7
Taralphiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Swan Wood Posts: 649	Thank you very much for that, Fire! Playing catch-up tends to get a little confusing. I'll play with my post a little more and put it up. Also, I thought I'd try to let you know how busy I'll be this week. It's Sunday for me now, and I'll probably be unable to post until Wednesday (workplace exams till then dies). So if someone notices Sorn, that's when I'll have time to get back to you - Tara Last edited by Taralphiel; 07-08-2006 at 08:38 PM.

07-07-2006, 10:00 PM	#4
Taralphiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Swan Wood Posts: 649	I've added a save in too, so I don't get too far behind :P I ask again, what would be the best time of day? If no-one can answer, I'll put it as afternoon, to take into account the time since Osfrid and Muriel left. - Tara

07-09-2006, 04:34 PM	#8
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Save filled.