Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[Lalaith]

we could lynch an innocent the next Day we would win, not realising that the plan had just been revealed to a Lover

Funnily enough, that was actually a point I suggested to Ang that he could make to his furry chums. We really thought we were for the chop that night. Another last-ditch point I suggested, although I don't think it ever came to that, was that the trail to Gurth from our deaths was so obvious that he would be lynched for sure...leaving you, Kath, to fight it out alone with four innocents, one of whom (Tali) was a proven.

can win as wolves and as innocents and that you can do it with incredible skill. We now know that Lalaith and Ang can do the same thing

Can I just remind you that we didn't actually win....which was my fault. Ang couldn't have played better - it was a delight to watch a master at work close-up, I can tell you - but I'm not feeling particularly pleased with my own performance. For example, I really should have been much cleverer about persuading you all to lynch Gurthang. That migraine came at a very bad time, game-wise, and then I became very busy in RL, but still, no excuses, there was ammo there and I didn't use it well enough. So thank you, Saucie, for your kind words - but the idea I deserve to be as feared as you, seems ludicrous to me. Particularly as I also failed miserably to persuade the village to lynch the last two wolves I was pursuing (Boro in the Penguin game, who I'd dreamt of, and Eomer in DWWW who I'd deduced)

Did you ever (prior to the final Night) consider how things might be play out if there were two remaining Wolves: one the Lover and one Loveless?

Funnily enough, Ang and I were extremely worried about this and discussed it at some length. We both also sent anxious PMs to Cailin and Noggie on the subject. Now, we banked on the fact that the Loveless wolf could not actually expose his treacherous colleague to the village without exposing himself in the process. However, the danger was not only that the wolf would obviously agitate for the lynching of the Lover Wolf, but that the Loveless wolf about to be lynched might, in a fit of pique, expose the traitor in his dying breath, as it were. Or, as Gurthang in fact did, refuse to kill anyone except Ang himself, preferring a village win to a traitor victory.

We also tried to keep you alive, Kath, wanting either Rune or Gurthang lynched first, because we realised that once the remaining wolves were all male, then they would know that the innocent Lover was a female and start killing/helping to lynch the remaining girls in the crew.

Incidently, in future Lover games, can I make a small plea on their behalf? It seems rather unfair that while wolves can win if they merely equal the number of innocents, that Lovers only win if they outnumber the others. Can it not be that Lovers win if they are down to the last four? Not that it would have helped us in the endgame we had this time, but still...

[Anguirel]

I am strongly in accord with Lalaith's last point! As it was, we were fighting not for victory, but for the merest approach to victory...

[The Saucepan Man]

Although you could easily have won if Gurthang had made a different choice. While I am obviously happy wth the decision that Gurth made, some Wolves might take the view that it is better for one Wolf to win and survive, even if attached to an innocent Lover.

[Kath]

some Wolves might take the view that it is better for one Wolf to win and survive, even if attached to an innocent Lover.

It's a fair point but with our group we'd pretty much decided that the wolf Lover wasn't on our team. In essence he'd been working against us from Day 1, he wanted us all dead, had he survived it wasn't a win for us.

Also, I see your point about Lalaith and others being just as accomplished, but they don't do it so loudly! That's why you, morm and Eomer get noticed.