THE SILMARILLION IS AN AMAZING BOOK! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

12-16-2002, 10:09 PM

I just finished reading it, and i'm like wow, wow, wow, wow, it's a sweet book. It tells the tales of teh first age in full length detail, and then not as in geat deatil the second and third age. It just made sense of everything, of how things came to be (eg the 7 seeing stones, dwellings of races, etc.). There's also a lot of war, great book, 10/10!

12-16-2002, 10:11 PM

I REALLY RECCOMEND THIS BOOK FOR ALL THOSE THAT HAVE FINISHED READING THE TRILOGY!

MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie · 12-16-2002, 10:28 PM

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it's a sweet book

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Iarwain · 12-17-2002, 07:10 PM

I actually prefer it over LotR. Just because of the magnitude of the history it gives.

-Imrahil- · 12-17-2002, 09:37 PM

I like it, though not to the same degree as LotR. Totally your preference. They are written in slightly different styles, because of course, one is more a history than an adventure. Both are great and yes, I also recommended this book to anyone who has read the trilogy, just love it.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 12-17-2002, 10:04 PM

I do agree that The Silmarillion is a great book. I love it! It filled my head with so much information on elves, whom I love. My favorite stories were that of Beren and Luthien, and Of Turin Turambar.

Rina · 12-17-2002, 10:18 PM

I just started The Silmarillion the other day, and am already caught up in it. It is very different from The Lord of the Rings. In LOTR, you get to know the characters and their personalities, in the Silmarillion, it is more of the history of the different peoples.

[ December 17, 2002: Message edited by: Rina ]

Túroch · 12-18-2002, 12:07 AM

Okay now that you finished the Silmarillion you have to read the Unfinished Tales. Hurry while all the characters are still fresh in your mind!! The UT really fleshes out alot of the stories that you read of in the Sill.

Oh by the whay what was your favorite part of the Silmarillion?

Galorme · 12-18-2002, 03:46 AM

Then go to the Histories! That is another total change of style. The Sil is excelent, but it is best if you read it before LoTRs, or when you haven't read LoTRs for a while.

Galorme · 12-18-2002, 03:47 AM

Oh yeah and Beren and Luthien hardly ever get the mention they deserve. It is one of the most amazing stories ever. In the film it was summed up as "She was an Elf who loved the man Beren" "what happened?" "She died". ho hum.

ColletteTook · 12-22-2002, 01:01 AM

I love the descriptions of the Valar. How Varda brought the stars to being so the First Borns could look upon them as they awoke. I haven't finished just yet, but so far the book is amazing.

zacattack · 12-22-2002, 01:48 AM

Yes I must agree that this book is actually the best I have ever read.My favourite part of it was either
Of Tour and the Fall of Gondolin
Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin
or Of the Fifth Battle:Nirnaeth Arnoediad

03-03-2003, 04:56 PM

THe Sillmarillion is awesome I am almost finished

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-03-2003, 06:54 PM

Quellelithion, you are so right. I recently finished reading it too, having given up on it on my first attempt many, many years ago. It is an amazing book. Very moving in parts, being how it is so tragic and all. The greatest tragedy of all, as you read it, is you know that Feanor's oath is behind everything and that, until it is either discharged or Feanor's line ended, there will be no let up from the suffering.

And may I echo Turoch's advice. I am currently reading the Unfinished Tales and would highly recommend it as a follow-up to the Silmarillion.

**lindil** · 03-03-2003, 09:03 PM

As much as I love the LotR [especially the chapters in Lothlorien, Rivendell and with Gildor, the later writings of JRRT, found mostly in UT, Morgoth's Ring, War of the Jewels, Peoples of Middle-Earth and to a lesser degree the Silmarillion itself, are my favorites. The richness of description, the depth and euphony and power of the writing kept increasing until he essentially ceased narrative writing and withdrew into primarily elvish historico-linguistic notes and filling in obscure corners of the Legendarium like Cirdan and Glorfindel and the Druedain.

Anyway the following link gives some ideas of what is in store for the reder of the latter writings of JRRT.

Enjoy!

[ March 03, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]

03-03-2003, 09:23 PM

Suillinan,

I must agree wholly, I just started reading it Sunday morning (after going crazy and buying most of Tolkiens works) and I am absolutely captivated by it. For religious types out there I have found it reads much like the bible so far. Very ancient in setting, very deep in context and hard to follow. I found one amazing allegory on page 38, where Aule created the dwarves before Eru had sent the Firstborn of his design to Arda and he says quote: "But I will not suffer this: that these should come before the Firstborn of my design, nor that thy impatience should be rewarded. They shal sleep now in the darkness under stone, and shall nt come forth until the Firstborn have awakened upon Earth; and until that time thou and they shall wait, though long it seem. But when the time comes I will awaken them, and they shall be to thee as children; and often strife shall arise between thine and mine, the children of my adoption and the children of my choice"

I see the tale of Isaac and Ishmael, but that's my personal judgement of course, I say not what Tokien meant at heart.

12-16-2002, 10:09 PM	#1
Quellelithion Guest Posts: n/a	THE SILMARILLION IS AN AMAZING BOOK! I just finished reading it, and i'm like wow, wow, wow, wow, it's a sweet book. It tells the tales of teh first age in full length detail, and then not as in geat deatil the second and third age. It just made sense of everything, of how things came to be (eg the 7 seeing stones, dwellings of races, etc.). There's also a lot of war, great book, 10/10!

12-17-2002, 07:10 PM	#4
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	I actually prefer it over LotR. Just because of the magnitude of the history it gives. __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"

12-17-2002, 09:37 PM	#5
-Imrahil- Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dol Amroth, upon the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 259	I like it, though not to the same degree as LotR. Totally your preference. They are written in slightly different styles, because of course, one is more a history than an adventure. Both are great and yes, I also recommended this book to anyone who has read the trilogy, just love it. __________________ My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

12-17-2002, 10:04 PM	#6
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	I do agree that The Silmarillion is a great book. I love it! It filled my head with so much information on elves, whom I love. My favorite stories were that of Beren and Luthien, and Of Turin Turambar. __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

12-17-2002, 10:18 PM	#7
Rina Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 18	I just started The Silmarillion the other day, and am already caught up in it. It is very different from The Lord of the Rings. In LOTR, you get to know the characters and their personalities, in the Silmarillion, it is more of the history of the different peoples. [ December 17, 2002: Message edited by: Rina ] __________________ Rina "God is the Lord, of angels, and of men - and of elves."

12-16-2002, 10:11 PM	#2
Quellelithion Guest Posts: n/a	I REALLY RECCOMEND THIS BOOK FOR ALL THOSE THAT HAVE FINISHED READING THE TRILOGY!

12-18-2002, 12:07 AM	#8
Túroch Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State University Posts: 102	Okay now that you finished the Silmarillion you have to read the Unfinished Tales. Hurry while all the characters are still fresh in your mind!! The UT really fleshes out alot of the stories that you read of in the Sill. Oh by the whay what was your favorite part of the Silmarillion? __________________ For the valour of the Edain the Elves shall ever remember as the ages lengthen, marvelling that they gave life so freely of which thay had on earth so little. But it is not for thy valour only that I send thee, but to bring into the world a hope beyond thy sight, and a light that shall pierce the darkness." Ulmo - Lord of waters

12-18-2002, 03:46 AM	#9
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	Then go to the Histories! That is another total change of style. The Sil is excelent, but it is best if you read it before LoTRs, or when you haven't read LoTRs for a while. __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

12-18-2002, 03:47 AM	#10
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	Oh yeah and Beren and Luthien hardly ever get the mention they deserve. It is one of the most amazing stories ever. In the film it was summed up as "She was an Elf who loved the man Beren" "what happened?" "She died". ho hum. __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

12-22-2002, 01:01 AM	#11
ColletteTook Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton and Tinnuvielda Posts: 369	I love the descriptions of the Valar. How Varda brought the stars to being so the First Borns could look upon them as they awoke. I haven't finished just yet, but so far the book is amazing. __________________ A Hobbit of Bywater

12-22-2002, 01:48 AM	#12
zacattack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Angband Posts: 70	Yes I must agree that this book is actually the best I have ever read.My favourite part of it was either Of Tour and the Fall of Gondolin Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin or Of the Fifth Battle:Nirnaeth Arnoediad __________________ "The dwarf breathes so loud we could have shot him in the dark "What an excellent spot I choose"-Gimli "Would you like me to describe it to you or just fetch for a box"-Legolas

03-03-2003, 04:56 PM	#13
Gurlie Guest Posts: n/a	THe Sillmarillion is awesome I am almost finished

03-03-2003, 06:54 PM	#14
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Quellelithion, you are so right. I recently finished reading it too, having given up on it on my first attempt many, many years ago. It is an amazing book. Very moving in parts, being how it is so tragic and all. The greatest tragedy of all, as you read it, is you know that Feanor's oath is behind everything and that, until it is either discharged or Feanor's line ended, there will be no let up from the suffering. And may I echo Turoch's advice. I am currently reading the Unfinished Tales and would highly recommend it as a follow-up to the Silmarillion. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-03-2003, 09:03 PM	#15
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	As much as I love the LotR [especially the chapters in Lothlorien, Rivendell and with Gildor, the later writings of JRRT, found mostly in UT, Morgoth's Ring, War of the Jewels, Peoples of Middle-Earth and to a lesser degree the Silmarillion itself, are my favorites. The richness of description, the depth and euphony and power of the writing kept increasing until he essentially ceased narrative writing and withdrew into primarily elvish historico-linguistic notes and filling in obscure corners of the Legendarium like Cirdan and Glorfindel and the Druedain. Anyway the following link gives some ideas of what is in store for the reder of the latter writings of JRRT. Enjoy! [ March 03, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

03-03-2003, 09:23 PM	#16
Erunno of Mirkwood Guest Posts: n/a	Suillinan, I must agree wholly, I just started reading it Sunday morning (after going crazy and buying most of Tolkiens works) and I am absolutely captivated by it. For religious types out there I have found it reads much like the bible so far. Very ancient in setting, very deep in context and hard to follow. I found one amazing allegory on page 38, where Aule created the dwarves before Eru had sent the Firstborn of his design to Arda and he says quote: "But I will not suffer this: that these should come before the Firstborn of my design, nor that thy impatience should be rewarded. They shal sleep now in the darkness under stone, and shall nt come forth until the Firstborn have awakened upon Earth; and until that time thou and they shall wait, though long it seem. But when the time comes I will awaken them, and they shall be to thee as children; and often strife shall arise between thine and mine, the children of my adoption and the children of my choice" I see the tale of Isaac and Ishmael, but that's my personal judgement of course, I say not what Tokien meant at heart.