The Yule Log Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerindel · 03-06-2006, 04:22 PM

Sorry sorry My son has been using the comp for his school project and I have been barely able to get near it, but my save is now filled.

Child of the 7th Age · 03-13-2006, 02:28 AM

My save is filled.

littlemanpoet · 03-13-2006, 10:31 AM

I'm in a little bit of a quandary. We're talking about a former servant of Morgoth, a relatively high ranking one. "Cook" may not seem so high, but "Chief Torturer and Enforcer" is a different story. So what we have here is a Maia that is obviously not as great as Morgoth, and I'll say also not as great as Sauron. Were the Dragons more powerful than Balrogs, or vice versa? Gandalf the Grey fought a Balrog and barely won. Gandalf the White was about even with the Lord of the Nazgul. Our two Blue Istari are individually probably just a little weaker than Gandalf the Grey, and probably a reasonable bit stronger than Radagast. So I'm thinking that this evil Maiar is a good deal more powerful than one Blue Istari, but weaker than both together. Sound fair?

Envinyatar · 03-13-2006, 03:39 PM

Sorry - I've been snowed under with work and other RL concerns.

I will most likely fill my SAVE tomorrow. I'm still trying to decide how far I'll take it.

Tevildo · 03-13-2006, 05:52 PM

I have a question, Littlemanpoet and Envinyatar. Is this creepy shadow thing still supposed to be "alive" after the istari confront the thing (whatever alive means in terms of a shadow?) Or are the two istari going to overpower it for once and all? I guess I'm trying to understand if this will be the final confrontation, or if this will be a lead up to some other concluding scene?

Does anyone know?

littlemanpoet · 03-14-2006, 09:48 AM

My take on it is that even if the two Blue Istari can overpower it, they can't kill it because evil as it is, it still derives its existence from Eru. It must be cast into the Void. Do the Blue Istari have the power to do that? If not, then it must be imprisoned over again somewhere in Middle Earth. Those are the options as far as I can figure them.

I seem to recall that Nerindel had a character (not Mara) with a rather potent sword... ?

Envinyatar · 03-14-2006, 04:53 PM

There is another option the two Istari have; that is, if they are on the verge of being swallowed up by this creature.

However, it should only be used as a last resort.

Nerindel - are you planning on having your man with the sword come in at sometime?

LMP - have you named the creature and was he originally a maiar associated with Melkor or was he corrupted from another of the Valar's people?

littlemanpoet · 04-11-2006, 09:27 PM

That was a great post, Envinyatar!

How do we want to proceed from here?

I'm a little befuddled by the comment from Stamo (?) about someone calling for someone's aid. Um, huh?

I hope that Old Goody continues her story, and I hope to see another post from Nerindel about probably both Mara and Arato.

Child, we do hope to see a post from you regarding your owl, to fill in that 11 day old 'save'.

But as to the tale. How close a call do we want to make this?

Envinyatar · 04-12-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

I'm a little befuddled by the comment from Stamo (?) about someone calling for someone's aid. Um, huh?

This is in reference to Undómë's post #125:

Quote:

The old woman turned back to the fire. Her face seemed more tired and worn. Hot as they were now, the flames did not seem to warm her, but instead seemed to draw out her little store of energy. Leeching her until she seemed almost translucent; the shadowings of her bones moving or still beneath her pale, drawn skin her only solidness.

She too whispered low as the embers flickered and shifted in their dance of renewal.

Hunter, Rider . . .
Lord of Trees, Master of Hounds . . .
Winter’s Lord, Woodland Spirit . . .
We smaller spirits call to you

Speed now to us on silver shod with gold
And recall some pity for us in our need.

She is calling on The Hunter; though I doubt she knows his name as Oromë. He is the Huntsman of the Valar. And the Valar who sent the two blue robed istari and the one who hunted the creatures of Melkor in the early days.

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If you want to make this a fairly close call, then perhaps the two istari should go back to the Inn for some reason while Arato goes to protect Wenda and Mara. I can't see the creature lasting long against the two maiar.

What do the other gamers think?

littlemanpoet · 04-12-2006, 07:57 PM

Put it this way: a close call for Wenda. Mori and Stamo could with Arato be chasing the Maiar (what's his name?) and get to him just in the nick of time as he's trying to wrest Wenda's twin souls from her.

03-13-2006, 02:28 AM	#2
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	My save is filled. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

03-13-2006, 10:31 AM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Relative Strength of Our Bad Guy I'm in a little bit of a quandary. We're talking about a former servant of Morgoth, a relatively high ranking one. "Cook" may not seem so high, but "Chief Torturer and Enforcer" is a different story. So what we have here is a Maia that is obviously not as great as Morgoth, and I'll say also not as great as Sauron. Were the Dragons more powerful than Balrogs, or vice versa? Gandalf the Grey fought a Balrog and barely won. Gandalf the White was about even with the Lord of the Nazgul. Our two Blue Istari are individually probably just a little weaker than Gandalf the Grey, and probably a reasonable bit stronger than Radagast. So I'm thinking that this evil Maiar is a good deal more powerful than one Blue Istari, but weaker than both together. Sound fair?

03-13-2006, 03:39 PM	#4
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	Sorry - I've been snowed under with work and other RL concerns. I will most likely fill my SAVE tomorrow. I'm still trying to decide how far I'll take it. __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

03-13-2006, 05:52 PM	#5
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	I have a question, Littlemanpoet and Envinyatar. Is this creepy shadow thing still supposed to be "alive" after the istari confront the thing (whatever alive means in terms of a shadow?) Or are the two istari going to overpower it for once and all? I guess I'm trying to understand if this will be the final confrontation, or if this will be a lead up to some other concluding scene? Does anyone know? __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

03-14-2006, 04:53 PM	#7
Envinyatar Quill Revenant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through the Downs..... Posts: 849	There is another option the two Istari have; that is, if they are on the verge of being swallowed up by this creature. However, it should only be used as a last resort. Nerindel - are you planning on having your man with the sword come in at sometime? LMP - have you named the creature and was he originally a maiar associated with Melkor or was he corrupted from another of the Valar's people? __________________ ‘Many are the strange chances of the world,’ said Mithrandir, ‘and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter.’ – Gandalf in: The Silmarillion, 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'

03-06-2006, 04:22 PM	#1
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Sorry sorry My son has been using the comp for his school project and I have been barely able to get near it, but my save is now filled. __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

03-14-2006, 09:48 AM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	My take on it is that even if the two Blue Istari can overpower it, they can't kill it because evil as it is, it still derives its existence from Eru. It must be cast into the Void. Do the Blue Istari have the power to do that? If not, then it must be imprisoned over again somewhere in Middle Earth. Those are the options as far as I can figure them. I seem to recall that Nerindel had a character (not Mara) with a rather potent sword... ?

04-11-2006, 09:27 PM	#8
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	That was a great post, Envinyatar! How do we want to proceed from here? I'm a little befuddled by the comment from Stamo (?) about someone calling for someone's aid. Um, huh? I hope that Old Goody continues her story, and I hope to see another post from Nerindel about probably both Mara and Arato. Child, we do hope to see a post from you regarding your owl, to fill in that 11 day old 'save'. But as to the tale. How close a call do we want to make this?

04-12-2006, 07:57 PM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Put it this way: a close call for Wenda. Mori and Stamo could with Arato be chasing the Maiar (what's his name?) and get to him just in the nick of time as he's trying to wrest Wenda's twin souls from her.