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Old 06-27-2006, 01:25 PM   #1
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To clarify: by all means, I want to know what our known (presumed) innocents have to say. But I don't want to vote off a list just because we know the authors are innocent. I'll take their opinions into consideration, but I'd rather make up my own mind.

After looking at Glirdan's posts, I'm also becoming a bit more suspicious of him. I find his vote for Lhuna quite odd, being that when he analyzed Eomer's five voters, Lhuna was at the bottom of his list. Sure, she hadn't contributed much, but if he's more suspicious of other people, why not vote for them? None of them had votes yet, so it's not like that would be an issue. He does a lot of nudging suspicion onto other people. Other than that, he's just sort of there. I did not find much in his posts overly remarkable; too many of his comments on posts say "nothing suspcious/odd here". He's making me sorta nervous.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:04 PM   #2
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I'm torn between voting Rune and Gurthang here.
On the one hand, I suspected Rune yesterday and he's done little to assuage my suspicions today, quite the contrary in fact.
On the other, I thought Gurthang came out the dodgiest in my analysis earlier today, and I've never been entirely comfortable with him this game.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:09 PM   #3
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Ok, I've looked over my analysis again and I still think Gurthang looks dodgy.

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Old 06-27-2006, 02:15 PM   #4
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So I am back. . . and it looks like I will be this days lynch.

++The Saucepan Man

As he looks to be my best shot at surviving.

I will not bother with a defence, it is not because I want to die. I just have alot of RL things going on right now. (things I did not now would emerge when I signed up)
If I live it is great and I will try to be here as much as possible.


P.S. It took me a long time typing this in as I was chatting as well and therefor cross posted with the 2 previous posts.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:27 PM   #5
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Gah!! Who to vote? Who to vote...

Okay, I'm going with what my gut tells me to do.

++Saucy

He's too dangerous as a Wolf, he's been flying under the radar quite a bit this time around and Diamond's analysis along with my gut feeling have brought me to this. I just hope I'm right this time.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:34 PM   #6
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1. Diamond --> SPM (SPM 1)
2. Ang --> Rune (SPM 1, Rune 1)
3. Caran --> Lalaith (SPM 1, Rune 1, Lalaith 1)
4. Durelin --> Rune (SPM 1, Rune 2, Lalaith 1)
5. SPM --> Rune (SPM 1, Rune 3, Lalaith 1)
6. Kath --> Glirden (SPM 1, Rune 3, Lalaith 1, Glirden 1)
7. TGWBS --> Gurthang (SPM 1, Rune 3, Lalaith 1, Glirden 1, Gurthang 1)
8. Lalaith --> Gurthang (SPM 1, Rune 3, Lalaith 1, Glirden 1, Gurthang 2)
9. Rune --> SPM (SPM 2, Rune 3, Lalaith 1, Glirden 1, Gurthang 2)
10. Glirden --> SPM (SPM 3, Rune 3, Lalaith 1, Glirden 1, Gurthang 2)

Taliesin are you around? I was wondering how you felt about the situation, or if you thought any of the forerunners particularly guilty. I am still deciding where I will place my vote

edit: changed an incorrect #

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Old 06-27-2006, 02:45 PM   #7
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Just got back from work, and have only had enough time to look at the votes. I'm not surprised I've got a couple, considering how many have been suspicious of me.

What does surprise me is the last two for Saucepan. Reading their reasons that they have presented with their votes, I don't even know what Rune really means. Glirdan seems to have thought about it at least, but the ever popular "too dangerous as a wolf" is always somewhat suspicious.

I'm gonna hold out as usual just to see what happens. If it comes down to me and Saucepan, I'll probably still vote Rune. If I vote to save myself, it means the village would have killed me if I hadn't vetoed it. That's rather unproductive, as it almost guarantees that most of tomorrow's discussion will be about me. In my mind, it'd be better to leave an innocent who more people trust (SpM) than an innocent people don't trust (Me).
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:51 PM   #8
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Time for me to vote:

++Rune

For reasons already stated.

Sauce – 3 (Diamond 1, Rune 9, Glirdan 10)
Rune – 4 (Ang 2, Durelin 4, Sauce 5, Firefoot 11)
Lalaith – 1 (Caran 3)
Glirdan – 1 (Kath 6)
Gurthang – 2 (TGWBS 7, Lalaith 8)
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:54 PM   #9
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Ahh yes I'm around. I was just reading up a bit.
As I said at the start of this day, I feel bad about Saucepan Man.

So my vote goes to him, although Rune is in the lead after Firefoot's vote. That's not too bad, I'm quite convinced he might be a wolf aswell. Let's hope we get a wolf with either Rune or Sauce.

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I really think sauce is innocent, Good luck if I am not back tommorow!
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #11
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Day 4 Events

Saddened by the loss of their Seer, the passengers were more determined than ever to catch a wolf today.

"We cannot fail Holbytlass," claimed Caranlondien passionately. "I shall personally find the wolvish ones among us today." She observed her fellow passengers uncomfortably. "I need a drink. Where's Glirdan?"

The rest of the passengers shared her sentiments (and not just regarding the drink) and immediately, a heated discussion ensued. At the end of the day, there seemed to be no one who had not been accused of some kind of crime, even those who Holbytlass had declared innocent.

"Findeasea kicked my dog," said Firefoot huffily. "I saw her do it."

Yet none was accused with such fire as Rune, Son of Bjarne, formerly a slave and now merely a nuisance. With a clear majority, he was the one facing the wrath of the mob today.

"We don't have a plank anymore," said Gurthang, mournfully gazing at the broken piece of wood.

"I always find decapitation works particularly well for me," grinned Taliesin.

"Any last words?" asked Kath.

Rune looked around nervously, cowering against the railing.

"Confess, cheese eater!" demanded Anguirel, pointing his sword at the slave. "You feasted on Holbytlass eyeballs tonight."

"Well…," said Rune in a soft, shaky voice. "One has to eat something when there is no cheese to be had."

A wave of fear passed through the ship and even Sir Horatio backed off a little. The fearful, guileless eyes of the slave had suddenly turned yellow.

"And we all know," continued Rune. "We all know the full moon… even the night thing… is just a myth."

With a maniacal laugh, he threw his head back and gazed up to the sun. As his nose started to lengthen and his face turned hairy, he let out a howl and jumped on Weslamond the Dread Pirate jr. Fiercely he aimed for her eyes, trying to gauge them out with his newly begotten claws.

"Eyeballs, eyeballs," he sang to the sky.

Weslamond screamed in despair but the passengers seemed nailed to the deck. Even though the wolves had picked them off one by one for four successive nights now, none could quite believe they had actually managed to find one after so many failures. In a last, hopeless attempt to save herself from blindness, Weslamond jumped over the railing.

"Har!" she laughed. "I learned to swim, you know." She paddled a bit further away from the ship. "And I am getting out of this mad journey. No treasure to be had anyway."

Suddenly, from behind her, Weslamond heard a piercing screeching sound.

"It cannot be!" she gasped.

It could. Within minutes, Screaming Eels had devoured the wannabe-pirate. None of the passengers seemed even remotely disturbed.

Meanwhile, it took the combined efforts of Sir Anguirel and Taliesin to fight off the loose wolf on the ship. Finally it was Durelin who came to her senses.

"Enough," she spoke. With a dramatic ninja gesture (that of course was invisible to normal human eyes because of speed, agility and similar qualities) she took out a kunai and threw it at Rune the Wolf. It hit him right in his heart and the wolf-slave fell to his knobbly, hairy knees.

"Too little…," he grunted. "… Too late."

"We shall see about that," said Findeasea.

The tides were turning. The passengers had at last caught a fiend.

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Captain Cailín's Log

What a relief! He sang about cheese even in his sleep, you know.

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~The dead ~
Nogrodsub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailínmod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagundranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1
Eomer of the Rohirrim ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2
Lhunardawen - ordinary passenger, overcame her seasickness by force at the end of Day2.
JennyHallu - Hunter
Formendacil - ordinary passenger
Mormegil - ordinary passenger, found fault in the ship's structure at the end of Day3
Holbytlass - Seer, killed by the wolves during Night 4
Diamond18 - ordinary passenger, brutally devoured by Screaming Eels
Rune Son of Bjarne - Wolf, pierced by Durelin's dagger at the end of Day 4


~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist
Kath -- plotting slave
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)


Another Night has come. Sweet dreams, everyone. And wolves, tell me, who shall not wake up?

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Old 06-28-2006, 03:00 PM   #12
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Night5 events

Fin had had been worried about the next night already as the day draw to a close. Her last word to her mates were "Good luck if I am not back tomorrow!".

She went quietly to ther new cabin that had been allotted to her after Jenny's death. It felt strange and unfamiliar, but surely it was more spacious and cleaner than her old one. And there was a shower there too! Luxury..., she thought.

She tried to rest but couldn't. She checked the door twice and tried to listen for any sounds approaching her cabin. There were none.

Finally she decided to look outside. She was fed up with the air, thick of her own desperation in the cabin. The fresh seawind blowed her bad thoughts away for a while. She filled her lungs with the fresh air and leaned over the railing. The moon was high up in the sky and everything was calm. Why am I so nervous? Why should it be me? she thought and gazed around one more time. There was nothing.

She went back into the cabin with a fresher mind, but was soon sweating again with fear being locked inside. This time I will not go out, whatever it takes. It's just too dangerous out there I'll try the shower instead.

She drew the shower curtains and untapped the bottom of the barrel that was filled with water. But as soon as she felt its cool and soothing effect on her skin, a series of terrible, ear-breaking high-piched screams filled the air with their nervewrecking pulse. She turned just early enough to see a pair of fangs coming through the curtain, ripping her in pieces. The water from the barrell washed away her blood...

In the morning, the first thing the passengers noticed was the fleet of sharks swimming around the ship. The second one was the missing of Fin. Both Sirs made the deduction that Fin's body had been dumped to the sea and these guys were waiting for more. But soon Caran came out from Fin's cabin, holding a piece of paper she had found over the washed remains of Fin's body. It read simply enough:

Murder, murder, that's the game.

For a moment they all stood silent. But the sun was rising.

~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1
Eomer of the Rohirrim – ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2
Lhunardawen - ordinary passenger, overcame her seasickness by force at the end of Day2.
JennyHallu - Hunter
Formendacil - ordinary passenger
Mormegil - ordinary passenger, found fault in the ship's structure at the end of Day3
Holbytlass - Seer, killed by the wolves during Night 4
Diamond18 - ordinary passenger, brutally devoured by Screaming Eels
Rune Son of Bjarne - Wolf, pierced by Durelin's dagger at the end of Day 4
Findëasëa - ordinary passenger, ripped in pieces in shower during Night5


~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Kath -- plotting slave
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)

Day5 has started. Good luck to you all!
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Old 07-01-2006, 07:00 AM   #13
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Your first point I have already addressed. The second point is illogical in itself.

You are making a mistake. You know, I've been painted as a wolf so long I'm starting to feel like some backwards cobbler. You might as well just lynch me - you all must be getting used to getting it wrong by now.
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Sauce:
Post 21 – in character, possibly joking suspicion on Nilp and Durelin.

Post 23 – more in character banter, directed at Rune and myself.

Post 24 – more in character, this time directed at Firefoot, in support of lynching the pirates.

Post 28 – character assassinations of everyone. Has a few he says he trusts, only Firefoot from the girls and pretty much everyone but Glirdan from the males. Then creates a lynch list consisting of Jenny, Di, Tali, Durelin and Nilp. If a joke then an unfortunate one in hindsight since 3/5 are now dead and proven innocent. If he’s a wolf I think it suggests at least one of his comrades is on it, so either Durelin or Tali.

Post 30 – switches the order of the list to have Di on top, presumably because she was head pirate.

Post 48 – says the banter must stop, though continues it a little himself. Had some suspicion of Form for almost asking to be lynched and for his Day 1 apathy, though he admits that is usual for Form. Also suspects Jenny for trying to look helpful without actually being so, that was over the ‘do the wolves post early’ thing. Thinks morm is not a wolf because he voted early. Suspected Rune for his vote for Eomer. Could be an innocent having picked up on that well, or a wolf suspecting his fellow because he thought nothing would come of it. Some suspicion of Gurthang for going after Eomer as well. This protection of Eomer business was an odd one. Nobody actually knew he was innocent yet those who didn’t vote for him seem to feel that those who did knew he wasn’t a wolf. Now while that may be true for some it can’t possibly be true for all. But he had a point about there needing to be some basis for such a vote, though it was Day 1.

Post 49 – banter with Di or Jenny (can’t tell who he was referring to) asking how he was double bluffing (looking for pointers?) and asks for clarification on Gurthang’s Bible reference. That’s quite understandable as I think it confused quite a few people. Is pleased that Nilp has voted for himself, but then, Nilp always votes for himself, if he didn’t it would be cause for worry.

Post 55 – agrees with Lalaith that the voting records will be easier to analyse because of the Lovers, except that it may create more in the way of wolf on wolf votes because of fears over traitors so only works only on. Could be just an innocent commenting or a wolf trying to discount a plan. Also some banter with Lalaith. Answers Ang saying the real Lover wouldn’t hint at their role but another wolf might hint at being the Lover falsely in order to draw out the real one. A bit convoluted and I’m not sure how it would work. Could be an innocent trying to figure out how the Lover’s would play or a wolf trying to do the same thing, though I’m not sure a wolf would bother saying out loud, unless he were trying to appear like an innocent. Says he doesn’t like the way Ang is encouraging the Eomer bandwagon but that he is still inclined to trust him. Interesting that, wolf comrades there perhaps?

Post 66 – tells Jenny the Goose is just a joke, bit of banter. Says she is right to trust him but she shouldn’t trust all with such a way with words. Says he will lay off Nilp (when was he suspecting him?) because he is being Nilpish and it is impossible to tell whether Nilp is wolvish or not until after Day 1. Says it is unlikely that a wolf would get involved in the Eomer bandwagon, having previously suspected people for doing that, and I think clears TGWBS on that basis. Bothered by the lack of reasoned votes.

Post 67 – explains how he would act if a wolf, the opposite way in fact to how he is acting, and not true as we have seen wolfSauce and he behaves no differently, but using this theory decides that Lalaith, Tali, Holby, Caran and Firefoot fit the bill. A little unfair as Tali is (pretty much) a newbie and the others often play like that anyway. With two of the five dead, and one the Seer, it is again an unfortunate statistic.

Post 81 – sticks with his earlier theory but discounts Lalaith because she is committing herself more and Tali because he hasn’t returned. Then discounts Firefoot and Caran because they only gave weak reasoning for their votes and he thinks a wolf would give better. Votes Holby, again unfortunate in retrospect, for lack of substance and odd behaviour. Well, he did say he had a good record for picking the Seer as a wolf! However, if a wolf, at the time he would only have known her to be innocent, and with the bandwagons around on either side it was a pretty safe vote.

Post 118 – thinks Eomer’s death was odd and was because the wolves had a grudge, thought him Gifted or wanted him out of the way. Angry with people for voting for Nilp and Eomer because they turned out to be innocent. But at the time no one, except Jenny for Nilp, knew that either was innocent, so this doesn’t make much sense. Suspects Firefoot and Holby for their ill-reasoned votes, and Durelin for being so quick to come and defend hers. Again mentions some trust of Ang even though he did vote Nilp, because he was trying to save Eomer, who at the time we did not know was innocent. Again says it’s unlikely that more than two wolves were involved in the Eomer bandwagon. Has some suspicion over Jenny for trying to save Nilp and Eomer, even though he did the same thing.

Post 121 – says Gurthang is wrong and that Eomer would not have been suspected today if he was alive but that is unlikely. It is probable that the wolves would have taken advantage of the suspicion on him the Day before and kept it going, effectively causing us to argue about him all Day and distract us from finding the wolves.

Post 125 – again speculates over the reason for Eomer’s death, thinking that perhaps no wolf voted for him so there would be no trail, and suspects Gurthang for pushing the bandwagon but not voting on it. Acknowledges morm’s suspicion of Ang but thinks it was too hasty.

Post 157 – again asks why the wolves killed Eomer, repeating his earlier reasons but discounting the grudge theory. Eventually decides it was just to cause confusion and put suspicion on those who voted for him, and so decides that there would only be one wolf amongst them. Thinks Lhuna or Di could be this one because Eomer said they looked innocent, and that Di looks the more suspicious. Again unfortunate in retrospect, but could be an innocent just going in the wrong direction. Agan defends Ang’s vote for Nilp, this time against Holby, and maintains suspicions of her and Firefoot for their votes and lack of contribution. Also suspects Gurthang for trying to make out that his Lover’s reference had a plan behind it, and for encouraging the Eomer bandwagon but eventually placing a ‘safe’ vote with Di. Thinks Glirdan innocent because his analyses just don’t work. Interesting since that’s what made many of us think him guilty. Could be because he knew Glirdan was innocent or because he’s played with him more often. Again defends Ang, this time against morm, and puts some suspicion on morm though immediately removes it again. Says his main suspects are Gurthang, Holby and Firefoot (though only one of the latter two) followed by Di, Durelin and morm. Everything is well reasoned and just how an innocent Sauce would act. It’s just that, a wolvish Sauce acts the same way.


Alright that's as far as I've got so far. Back later to keep slogging away at it. It's as balanced as I can get it given that I think he's wolvish.
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I really feel that Saucepan Man is innocent.

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Mainly for his very wolfish actions toDay.
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