Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

TGWBS

Has a strange Day 1 vote, but most of us did. Then he has his for me really weird post about sense and not sense are both good. Now it seems that he is not conscious! I don’t know why I did not notice that he had hardly posted at all. Anyways I normally don’t like when people post that little, unless there is something in there posts that makes me “trust” them. That was the case with Lhuna and therefore she didn’t even make my list of people to watch. The fact that I really like playing with Lhuna might have had some influence as well. (Lhuna is often the person who I understands the best) TGWBS on the other hand does nothing to make me trust him, he comes with some very confusing statements and that is it. I really dislikes this because that makes him really hard to get a read on and I don’t like having people like that in the end of a game. (this is why I normally vote for Wayne early on) There is a chance that he may just be an ordo acting weird for some reason I don’t know, but I also see it as definite possibility that he is a very bold wolf. Should he turn out an ordo it is a loss that I for one can live. Right now I don’t see any potential in having him around. I am not very demanding and I am not saying that he should come up with a brilliant post for me to not vote for him. I am just asking for him to post a bit more substantial so that their may be something to judge him by.
If nothing changes while I am sleeping, he is very likely to get my vote.

Glirdan

He is very difficult for me to classify, he has not done anything that is overly suspicious, but I find that he has some weird comments once in a while. Then he has his analyses. Although SPM did not find them overly useful, I was kind of pleased with them, the ones that focused on the individuals that is. They were not the greatest in the world, but it was better than anything me and a lot of others had come up with at that point. Then he has some kind of theory about how much people post! Although I my self get suspicious in the extreme cases, I did not see how that could be really useful, as I see it it could be interpreted in a 1000 different ways and really did not help one bit. This is a thing that makes me slightly suspicious of him. It could be a wolves way of contributing with something that points in every direction and therefore is likely not to lead anywhere. It would also work great if the wolf would be lynched, there would be nothing to go by. (on that single post that is). So all in all Glirdan seems a bit suspicious, but for now he is not troubling me to much.

Mormegil and Anguriel

As I said earlier I believe that there is a good chance that one of them might be a wolf, but I still don’t know who. I will wait and see what happens; there is still a couple of things I need to get cleared before I can make a judgement. The thing is that Mormegils is so sure in his accusations (which if true is brilliant spotted, I might add) that it makes me think that it is either an ordo who has noticed something who is very wrong in the behaviour of another player, but it could also be a wolf who has been studying each post for the slightest contradiction and then jumps one it when found. If nothing new happens I will probably have to go back and look at some of the old games for some clues.

Holbytlass

I still think that she has a lot more potential than she is showing and therefore I am suspicious. However I don’t think that she will get my vote today.

Firefoot

Pretty much removed her self from my list of suspects yesterday, as I found her contribution extremely useful and I could follow her reasoning most of the time.

Well those I haven’t mentioned I think innocent for now. Some because they make sence other because I they have done nothing to make me suspicious. (that does not mean that I always understand exactly why they are doing as they are)


Man this took a long time; I should have been to bed ages ago. I will return tomorrow with a vote and then be gone for rest of the day.

Cross posted with Di and I don't know what to think of her post.

[Caranlondien]

Well, I'm not surprised that Jenny was the Hunter; it seemed pretty obvious to me from her certainty that Nilp was innocent. Things are looking sort of depressing for us right now...

Firefoot's post after I voted for her yesterDay has comforted me somewhat about her. She responded but didn't overreact.

I haven't had time to go back over all of yesterDay's posts yet, so forgive me if this is explained elsewhere, but tgwbs - why didn't you vote? Of course, I'm tempted to excuse him just for that, because I don't see a wolf being so bold as to skip out on voting... but I have to agree with Rune that tgwbs is unreadable. And maybe he would be that bold. In any case, he's being unusually quiet, and it's making me nervous.

[Caranlondien]

Serves me right for not checking the main thread; apologies, tgwbs. My comment about quietness, though, still stands.

[Glirdan]

I'm back and I have things that I want to adress.

+ + The Saucepan Man(Di)

I was actually wondering when this was going to happen. I'm also going to say that it doesn't surprise me that Di would be the one voting for him. I myself have had my suspicions of him just because there's always the fact that he makes such a sneaky Wolf. However, keeping him around is a good thing. He's smart and helps out a lot, no matter how confused he himself is. In other words, I find him suspicious, yet not enough to vote for him.

This is a thing I find very interesting, as it does not resemble the look I have on my own skills at all. I have always thought I was semi-vocal at best, spiced with some theories of mixed quality. . .
I don’t know why Glirdan’s memory is different than mine. It could be because my last game was quite good or it could just be because he missed me so much that all his memories of me have changed to the better. . .(Rune)

No, I just suffer from memory loss in general. So it's quite posssible that it has. Maybe it's time to go give myself a memory update...

Glirdy - you earlier asked what I meant by "glirdan = not sense." A post you had made earlier concerning Nilp voters didn't seem logical to me. As I expect weirdness from you, I presumed, and still presume, you to be innocent.

Okay. I kind of figured that's what you meant but I wasn't entirely positive and so I asked you to clarify.

Must depart for a time being.

[Gurthang]

Well, I see I'm not the only one who isn't sure about Guy. Rune makes some good points about him being unreadable, though.

I won't have time to look back at those I'm suspicious of until about four hours before deadline. Hopefully, I'll be able to look through the whole thread and find something.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I really hoped that something would happen while I was sleeping that would show me who to vote for, but now I cannot wait any longer.

++ the guy who be short

You can find my reasons for doing so in my last post. (234)

[mormegil]

Durelin -- Innocent
Caranlondien -- Innocent
Holbytlass -- Unknown
Findëasëa -- Innocent
Kath – Likely innocent
Lalaith -- Unsure
Diamond18 – Possibly guilty
Firefoot -- Guilty

Gurthang -- Guilty
Rune Son of Bjarne – Unsure
Taliesin – Unsure
Saucepan Man – So many things I could say but won’t. I could think either way on him
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel) – Uncertain but possibly guilty
Glirdan -- Guilty
Friedrich Engels –(TGWBS) Guilty

I still hold that Glirdan is guilty and being alive today on solidifies my belief. I think that the first night Glirdan went bold and killed off Eomer but when it was generally believed that I was not the seer he didn’t kill me because it would only make him look real bad. Glirdan is the type that will take some small risks, killing Eomer, but won’t go for the gusto, killing me, because that would be killing two people who suspected him in succession.

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Well, now I can at least feel safe voting the way I had been intending to... I don't think either Lhuna or Holby is a wolf and am glad I don't have to vote for either. Even if one of them seems guaranteed to be lynched, there doesn't seem any way for me to change that. I doubt Formen will pick up the necessary votes.

++Lalaith

This combined with some other observations with a strong ‘gut feeling’ are telling me that Firefoot is guilty. You could have made a difference in the vote. It seems to much like “okay one of these two innocents are doomed and for the record I think both are innocent.” In fact this might be a good wolf-on-wolf vote at a non-critical time.

Originally Posted by Gurthang

His early vote for Glirdan yesterday was not in itself suspicious, but the fact that he continues gunning for him today is really odd. I also noticed that he said nothing against Anguirel (well, I just skimmed quickly, but I didn't see anything.) yesterday, but suddenly came out and voted for him today. He might be the seer, but I just don't think so.

This came when he voted for me. Odd, I don’t remember ‘gunning’ for Glirdan yesterday. In fact I simply mentioned him in passing that I thought he was a wolf. That’s not ‘gunning’. If anything you could say that I was gunning for Anguirel, who insultingly calls me ‘special’.

Rune just has the feel and seems to follow what I would expect in him being a wolf.

TGWBS, when innocent tends to demand things like answers and responses but he seems detached and I think so because he's possibly guilty.

[Anguirel]

Awww, morm, do not take my quip so deeply to heart. I have no real wish to insult you. Without you no Werewolf attack could be fully complete...

It seems to me that more evidence is likely to be found in last evening's lynching than in tonight's kill, which is really fairly self-explanatory and leaves little trail. Did the wolves keep their hands clean from Lhuna's death or spur it on? If they encouraged it, why? Who did she suspect? Who suspected, or pretend to suspect, her?

[I'm out for lunch so won't be able to enlarge on this as soon as I'd like.]