Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Cailín · 06-21-2006, 03:03 PM

After the passengers recovered from the shock of poor Cailín’s untimely death (which strangely did not take them very long), they immediately started pointing fingers at each other.

“Eomer is guilty. We all know it,” said Weslamond triumphantly.

“I’m bored,” said Formendacil.

“Yeah,” said Kath smugly. “Eomer should go.”

“I am not sure… what do you think, Sir Horatio?” asked Firefoot.

“Honk,” replied Sir Horatio, too busy arguing with his disloyal Goose to make much sense.

“Don’t listen to the Sassenach!” came in Anguirel. “I make prettier poetry.”

Between barfing, Lhuna looked up, confused. “Eomer? Yes, whatever. Let’s get some people of this ship, fast.”

“What did I do this time?” asked Eomer.

“You never gave me cheese,” said Rune.

“What do you need cheese for anyway?” asked Taliesin

“*hic*”, said Glirdan. Someone managed to interpret it as an accusation in the direction of Kath.

“Lynch all pirates!” yelled Nilp. “I go first, though.”

“Don’t trust the ninjas!” yelled Roberta and Weslamond. “Especially the suicidal ones.”

“Anyone paying attention to me? I am STILL bored!” said Form.

In the end, they decided to be lenient and allow Nilpaurion Felagund his dramatic Day 1 lynch. Gurthang expertly led him to the plank (ignoring the strange gestures Nilp was making with his hands) and the passengers gathered round to see the villain’s exit.

“Wait!” said Nilp. “I wish to have a fight with that Jounin Instructor first! Must… show… off… Ninja… moves.”

“Sorry,” said Holby. “We really don’t have time for that.”

“All right then,” spoke Nilp resignedly and he jumped into the deeps. Strangely, nothing seemed to happen. Until from the starboard side of the ship, there came a gasp of exasperation. Nilpaurion had surfaced again… “I probably should have mentioned my excellent skills of protection,” he said, gasping for breath, before he disappeared, never to surface again.

It seemed the passengers were remarkably adept at killing those who might be able to protect them…

Despite his doubtful appearance, Nilp was their Ranger.

---

Captain Cailín’s Log

Some particularly dense people decided to kill Nilp. What the real miracle is, however, is that I still live. How about that?

Eomer of the Rohirrim

~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1

~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Holbytlass -- whale hunter
Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist
Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler
Kath -- plotting slave
JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins
Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese
Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Eomer of the Rohirrim -- slavedriver
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)

Night 2 has now started. Nogrod and I need names from the Seer and the Wolves. Sleep well, my pretties.

Cailín · 06-22-2006, 03:01 PM

After Nilp had passed away, the passengers felt strangely unprotected. Some of them were determined to stay awake; not to fall prey to the horrible wolves that prowled the ship. However, after sitting up for several hours, the spell of fatigue caught them all.

It was Eomer of the Rohirrim who had decided to take the Captain’s cabin after a short argument. After all, he was now virtually the only one who had subordinates on the ship and so appeared to have a rightful claim to it. He also seemed to be one of the few who had no objections to sleep in a bed that had contained a corpse for a large part of the previous Night and Day.

After several hours of delightful snoozing, Eomer woke up to a suspicious sound. As the door to the cabin opened with a typically Hollywood creak, Eomer caught sight of four furry shapes standing in the dark. He remained quite unfazed.

“What wolf would kill me?” he mumbled, annoyed they had intruded on his sleep. “As long as I’m around, I get to take the blame for everything that goes wrong around here.”

The wolves entered one by one, their eyes glistening threateningly.

“I am actually one of you, you know,” stated Eomer. “I have to be. I always am.”

The wolves snarled and approached yet closer.

“Come on, everyone seems to think so. It will be amusing!”

They disagreed.

As the sun came up in the west, the passengers woke up one by one. Sir Anguirel Spens tried to lead a headcount but was immediately distracted by a gleeful whoop coming from Kath’s direction.

“I mean, how utterly distressing,” she quickly corrected herself.

The passengers, still confused, looked up in the direction she was pointing. There, high above them, one of the sails had been replaced by quite a gruesome spectacle. Former slavedriver Eomer of the Rohirrim was stretched to quite inhuman proportions and tied to the main topmast where his body now was almost billowing in the wind.

“Ugh,” commented Lhuna, trying hard not to sound tearful.

Even Dread Pirate Roberta had to gulp at the sight.

--

Captain Cailín’s Log

Mu-ha-ha-ha. Let’s hope he’ll give us Godspeed.

Signed,

The Wolves

~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1
Eomer of the Rohirrim – ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2

~The living ~
Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor
Caranlondien -- ships's bartender
Holbytlass -- whale hunter
Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist
Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler
Kath -- plotting slave
JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta
Lalaith -- Football Widow
Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé
Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates

Gurthang -- Plank Operator
Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins
Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese
Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything
Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift
Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler
Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel)
Glirdan -- drunken porter
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short)

Day 2 has now started. Nogrod will be away on a trip and will not return before Sunday night, so all questions / Hunter changees / kills can be directed to just me for a while.

Durelin · 06-22-2006, 03:04 PM

Argh!

I told you to stay out of any ninja business!

Wow, I really thought that was a throw-away vote...

Glirdan · 06-22-2006, 03:08 PM

Well whadda ya know! That was a sur....actually, no. It isn't a surprise. He's too smart for the Wolves to leave around for long.

Anyway, I must go and find rum before I get to sobber to think straight! I shall be back later (hopefully) with my thoughts.

Findëasëa · 06-22-2006, 03:11 PM

Poor Eomer. I think that the wolves thought that Eomer was the hunter, because Nilp did not reveal himself as the ranger, and since they know who each other are, it would make sence if he did not reveal in order to protect the hunter.

Edit: changed "seer" to "hunter"

Firefoot · 06-22-2006, 03:09 PM

First off, what was Nilp thinking!? Urgh.

Second, why ever would the wolves kill Eomer now? He was practically a prime candidate for lynching. Now, later in the game, when thoughts of lynching him have died down, that would make sense... but now? I'm rather confused, and will have to think more about that later.

I'll be away for a couple hours now, back later...

Lalaith · 06-22-2006, 03:12 PM

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why ever would the wolves kill Eomer now

A question I've been asking myself, too...the only thing that makes sense is that they thought he was the Seer. But why, I wonder?

Lalaith · 06-22-2006, 03:14 PM

Findesea - it is the Hunter and the Ranger (Nilp) who were in cahoots, the Seer operates alone.

Findëasëa · 06-22-2006, 03:15 PM

Sorry, that was a Typo.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-22-2006, 03:21 PM

Eomer is dead, this is not good at all, I really don't know what to think.

Give me a minute and I will return with my thougth's about this and maybe about a person or two. . . .

Gurthang · 06-22-2006, 03:18 PM

Well, that sucks.

I sure hope Nilp is happy. I've seen him gifted before, and he at least didn't get himself lynched then. Although, he didn't really do anything unusual this time.

Well, at least we don't have to worry about Eomer anymore. I'm sorta sad that he's gone because he can be a huge asset, but really, we would have spent the rest of his existance arguing about him. If you ask me, the wolves almost did us a favor. Almost.

Anyway, if I have time, I'll be looking primarily at the Nilp and Eomer voters. I really didn't like how it played out between the two of them, voting wise, I mean.

Formendacil · 06-22-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurthang

I sure hope Nilp is happy. I've seen him gifted before, and he at least didn't get himself lynched then. Although, he didn't really do anything unusual this time.

Day 1, Gurthang.... Nilp has almost ALWAYS done it.... if he hadn't this time, us veterans would wonder if he's a wolf... and lynch him anyway...

Caranlondien · 06-22-2006, 03:47 PM

I can think of several reasons the wolves killed Eomer. There's what Fin said - that they might have thought Eomer to be the Hunter. Or maybe they thought he was the Seer. Another possibility is that they thought the Seer might dream of him. Finally, they might have just wanted to get rid of a good player who wasn't on their side.

Typically, the wolves are looking for the Seer right now. So there might be some stock in looking at what Eomer said yesterDay that might have made the wolves think he was the Seer. We all know it's overwhelmingly unlikely that the Seer will dream of a wolf on Night 1, but for some reason the wolves often seem to forget that and think they've found him/her already. Still, if one or more of the wolves is an experienced player, I find it unlikely that they would have made such a mistake.

Overall, I'd rather focus on the voting record. There isn't much of one now, but at least the wolves have given us the information that both our top suspects yesterDay were innocent.

I'll re-read yesterDay's happenings and see if I can come up with some suspects...

EDIT: cross-posted with everything since Form's last post

EDIT2: changed "Ranger" to "Hunter" - thanks for pointing out the mistake

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-22-2006, 03:35 PM

Hmm, I rather glad that I lost that argument with Mister Of the Rohirrim over the Cabin now.

What a strange choice of kill the Wolves made! What with Eomer attracting the second highest number of votes yesterday n'all. Then again, most of them were (seemingly) grudge votes.

A few possible reasons for his untimely death. Possibly one of those who held a grudge against him. Possibly they thought him a Gifted (and so what he said yesterday will bear examination). Possibly the Wolves just felt that they couldn't take the risk of leaving an innocent Eomer running about on board.

And now I am afraid that I shall have to get rather angry with you all, or at least those of you who voted for Nilp and Eomer. Bad Day 1 strategy, effectively reducing the voting to a two horse race. And, surprise surprise, they both turn out to be innocent. And one of them a Gifted too. And a valuable one at that. Made it nice n'easy for the Wolves, I'm sure. Tsk! Tsk!

Pure madness, it was! Grudge votes against Eomer (so it would seem) and senseless votes against Nilp, just because he was being Nilp. Of course he had to vote for himself in his situation. That's what he always does, and so doing anything else would have attracted undue attention from the Wolves. Didn't mean others had to go and follow suit. Other than his self-vote, there was nothing suspicious about him and, for Nilp, a self-vote doesn't qualify as a suspicious action. Good grief, folks! You can't all be Wolves, those of you who voted for the two of them. Yet anyone would think you wanted the Wolves to win! Arrgh!

OK, rant over. Here's yesterday's voting:

1. Morm-->Glirdan (Glirdan-1)
2. Lhuna-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-1)
3. Rune-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2)
4. Glirdan-->Kath (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1)
5. Nilp-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1, Nilp-1)
6. Engels-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-1)
7. Durelin-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-2)
8. Diamond-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-2)
9. Anguirel-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3)
10. Lalaith-->Form (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1)
11. Caranlondien-->Jenny (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1, Jenny-1)
12. Firefoot-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1)
13. SpM-->Holby (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1)
14. Holby-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1)
15. JennyHallu-->Holbytlass (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2)
16. Formendacil-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-1)
17. Findeasea-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2)
18. Gurthang-->Diamond (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)
19. Eomer-->Glirdan (Glirdan-2, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)
20. Taliesin-->Eomer (Glirdan-2, Eomer-5, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1)

No vote: Kath

Some suspicious looking votes there. I don't like any of the votes for Nilp (excepting his own and, possibly, that of Anguirel who appeared to have been trying to save Eomer). I am particularly wary of those cast by Firefoot and Holbytlass, both of whom effectively escalated it into a choice between Eomer and Nilp, two innocents. And Firefoot's reasoning - because we have to find out about Nilp - was poor. As I have said, he was just being Nilp. You should have let him be and see how he behaved on subsequent Days. And I still suspect Holby on the basis of my reasoning from yesterday.

And while Durelin does not look as suspicious as those two for her vote for Nilp, I am wary of the fact that she was so quick to arrive today and claim that she thought her vote a throwaway vote.

Of course, they can't all be Wolves. I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for Nilp yesterDay.

As for the Eomer voters, well I will be keeping an eye on all of them. Although, again, I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for him.

There is probably a Wolf, possibly two, in the later "throwaway" votes, after the voting had effectively become the two-horse race between Eomer and Nilp.

One further thought. While I agree with the sentiments expressed by Jenny in the closing stages of yesterday, in her frustration at all the votes for Eomer and Nilp, she does seem to have rather gone overboard with it. A Wolf would have known them both to be innocent and it was possibly a good opportunity to try to gain some credit by making it look like she was trying to save them. Perhaps that is part of the explanation as to why Eomer was killed. It doesn't place her at the top of my suspect list, but it's a thought.

EDIT: Good grief! Crossed with all the posts from Glirdan's at #106!

mormegil · 06-22-2006, 03:37 PM

Oh, as per our vocal agreement yesterday I claim the slaves as my own!

Anguirel · 06-22-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

Oh, as per our vocal agreement yesterday I claim the slaves as my own!

Nonsense. They are the property of a deceased subject of the King of Scots. As His Grace's representative on board, I am now the receiver of his slain vassal's property. The Law of Scotland is on my side, sir.

I do not wish to be sucked into a duel with you, master nitpicker, but it seems to me you are seeing a chain of events that fit in your eyes because they pertain to you. I was considering your case yesterday on what I confessed was the sketchiest of grounds, and I am now prepared to dismiss my thoughts as pretty balderdashworthy in light of later information.

And I am somewhat insulted by your implication that I would be so clumsy a wolf as to intervene, guns blazing, because a throwaway vote in wolf-Glirdan's direction...

Now, to the slain Scot's words of yesterday. (And his slaves. Mine, all mine.)

Firefoot · 06-23-2006, 09:05 AM

Okay, I'm back and not tired... going to try and go through everyone here.

Durelin - Banter on Day 1, vote for Nilp on "ninja business", later calls vote "throw away vote." There's really nothing on Durelin. Her vote for Nilp could be counted as innocent or wolvish. I'd like to see more from her. Borderline.

Caran - Wants to lynch the goose, vote for Jenny because she can be a cunning wolf, speculation on the killing of Eomer, trusts Jenny and SpM, suspicious of Gurthang and Glirdan, unconvinced by Morm, response to Glirdan. Caran seems innocent. She says all the "right" things and seems sensible enough. I'm interested that she votes Jenny, then comes back and says she trusts her. Leaning innocent.

Holbytlass - General Day 1 comments, rather vague commentary, points out some people she thinks may be bluffing, vote for Nilp to keep Eomer alive even though she'd rather vote for Durelin (not wanting to add another candidate to list), attack on Jenny. I am disinclined to suspect her overmuch for her vote, and I'm not sure why you all are suspecting her but not Ang; her vote didn't seem terribly different from his as far as I am concerned, with the exception of her actually wanting to vote Durelin, but I understand her logic. Her rather vague analysis on Day 1 might be called a wolf not really being helpful, but that seems like a normal sort of Holby thing. Leaning innocent.

Findëasëa - response to Eomer's point about people acting normally, comments about lovers, slightly suspicious of Glirdan, Holby seeming innocent, Nilp and Eomer both probably innocent, Lalaith fitting her pattern for wolf, vote Lalaith, thoughts why wolves killed Eomer, suspicious of Jenny, analysis post of select people. I've never played with her before, but she seems to be quite sensible and helpful. Her posts generally aren't long, but they're very explicit and say a lot. She could be a clever wolf, uncontroversially pointing out her suspicions and likely innocents, but right now I think she's probably innocent.

Lhuna - Firefoot and Gurthand lovers, wolves: Fin, Taliesin, tgwbs, vote Eomer. Pretty standard Lhuna... probably innocent.

The rest are coming... I promise.

Findëasëa · 06-23-2006, 09:11 AM

Rune- Votes early for Eomer. Thinks Eomer was killed to create confusion and calls attention towards Nilp’s death. Makes comments about how he is not sure, and confused. Gives helpful suggestions. He defends Jenny’s actions. He makes comments about the Morm and Anguirel situation. He makes a few opinions about people known, but these seem to be mostly attributed to gut feelings. Rune seems suspicious to me because much of the opinions in his post are direct responses or reflections of other people’s ideas. This could be a way for a wolf to avoid blame and to create confusion. Also the fact many of his opinions are based on ‘gut feelings’ seems strange.

Formendacil – Says that he is tempted to vote for himself. Jokes about how this will probably get him killed. He votes for Lalaith. He defends his choice to Jenny. He thinks confusion was aim of Eomer’s death, but also that one of the people who voted Eomer is a wolf. Later he defends his vote further, commenting that he was not aware of the tie when he voted. For some reason I find his comment about not knowing that the votes were tied a little strange. Although not beyond reason, especially since he was on a computer at the library, it just seemed very defensive.

That is all that I have time to do toDay. I think that the rest of the people who I did not have time to write about have all been receiving attention as it is. Since I will probably sleep through the deadline, I will vote.

++Lalaith

For the reasons that I listed in post #162. She is most suspicious to me.

06-22-2006, 03:01 PM	#2
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Night 2 After Nilp had passed away, the passengers felt strangely unprotected. Some of them were determined to stay awake; not to fall prey to the horrible wolves that prowled the ship. However, after sitting up for several hours, the spell of fatigue caught them all. It was Eomer of the Rohirrim who had decided to take the Captain’s cabin after a short argument. After all, he was now virtually the only one who had subordinates on the ship and so appeared to have a rightful claim to it. He also seemed to be one of the few who had no objections to sleep in a bed that had contained a corpse for a large part of the previous Night and Day. After several hours of delightful snoozing, Eomer woke up to a suspicious sound. As the door to the cabin opened with a typically Hollywood creak, Eomer caught sight of four furry shapes standing in the dark. He remained quite unfazed. “What wolf would kill me?” he mumbled, annoyed they had intruded on his sleep. “As long as I’m around, I get to take the blame for everything that goes wrong around here.” The wolves entered one by one, their eyes glistening threateningly. “I am actually one of you, you know,” stated Eomer. “I have to be. I always am.” The wolves snarled and approached yet closer. “Come on, everyone seems to think so. It will be amusing!” They disagreed. As the sun came up in the west, the passengers woke up one by one. Sir Anguirel Spens tried to lead a headcount but was immediately distracted by a gleeful whoop coming from Kath’s direction. “I mean, how utterly distressing,” she quickly corrected herself. The passengers, still confused, looked up in the direction she was pointing. There, high above them, one of the sails had been replaced by quite a gruesome spectacle. Former slavedriver Eomer of the Rohirrim was stretched to quite inhuman proportions and tied to the main topmast where his body now was almost billowing in the wind. “Ugh,” commented Lhuna, trying hard not to sound tearful. Even Dread Pirate Roberta had to gulp at the sight. -- Captain Cailín’s Log Mu-ha-ha-ha. Let’s hope he’ll give us Godspeed. Signed, The Wolves ~The dead ~ Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1 Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1 Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1 Eomer of the Rohirrim – ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2 ~The living ~ Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor Caranlondien -- ships's bartender Holbytlass -- whale hunter Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler Kath -- plotting slave JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta Lalaith -- Football Widow Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates Gurthang -- Plank Operator Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel) Glirdan -- drunken porter Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short) Day 2 has now started. Nogrod will be away on a trip and will not return before Sunday night, so all questions / Hunter changees / kills can be directed to just me for a while.

06-22-2006, 03:08 PM	#4
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Well whadda ya know! That was a sur....actually, no. It isn't a surprise. He's too smart for the Wolves to leave around for long. Anyway, I must go and find rum before I get to sobber to think straight! I shall be back later (hopefully) with my thoughts. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

06-22-2006, 03:11 PM	#5
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	Poor Eomer. I think that the wolves thought that Eomer was the hunter, because Nilp did not reveal himself as the ranger, and since they know who each other are, it would make sence if he did not reveal in order to protect the hunter. Edit: changed "seer" to "hunter" Last edited by Findëasëa; 06-22-2006 at 04:13 PM.

06-22-2006, 03:14 PM	#8
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Findesea - it is the Hunter and the Ranger (Nilp) who were in cahoots, the Seer operates alone. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

06-22-2006, 03:18 PM	#11
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	Well, that sucks. I sure hope Nilp is happy. I've seen him gifted before, and he at least didn't get himself lynched then. Although, he didn't really do anything unusual this time. Well, at least we don't have to worry about Eomer anymore. I'm sorta sad that he's gone because he can be a huge asset, but really, we would have spent the rest of his existance arguing about him. If you ask me, the wolves almost did us a favor. Almost. Anyway, if I have time, I'll be looking primarily at the Nilp and Eomer voters. I really didn't like how it played out between the two of them, voting wise, I mean. __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.

06-21-2006, 03:03 PM	#1
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Day One Events After the passengers recovered from the shock of poor Cailín’s untimely death (which strangely did not take them very long), they immediately started pointing fingers at each other. “Eomer is guilty. We all know it,” said Weslamond triumphantly. “I’m bored,” said Formendacil. “Yeah,” said Kath smugly. “Eomer should go.” “I am not sure… what do you think, Sir Horatio?” asked Firefoot. “Honk,” replied Sir Horatio, too busy arguing with his disloyal Goose to make much sense. “Don’t listen to the Sassenach!” came in Anguirel. “I make prettier poetry.” Between barfing, Lhuna looked up, confused. “Eomer? Yes, whatever. Let’s get some people of this ship, fast.” “What did I do this time?” asked Eomer. “You never gave me cheese,” said Rune. “What do you need cheese for anyway?” asked Taliesin “hic”, said Glirdan. Someone managed to interpret it as an accusation in the direction of Kath. “Lynch all pirates!” yelled Nilp. “I go first, though.” “Don’t trust the ninjas!” yelled Roberta and Weslamond. “Especially the suicidal ones.” “Anyone paying attention to me? I am STILL bored!” said Form. In the end, they decided to be lenient and allow Nilpaurion Felagund his dramatic Day 1 lynch. Gurthang expertly led him to the plank (ignoring the strange gestures Nilp was making with his hands) and the passengers gathered round to see the villain’s exit. “Wait!” said Nilp. “I wish to have a fight with that Jounin Instructor first! Must… show… off… Ninja… moves.” “Sorry,” said Holby. “We really don’t have time for that.” “All right then,” spoke Nilp resignedly and he jumped into the deeps. Strangely, nothing seemed to happen. Until from the starboard side of the ship, there came a gasp of exasperation. Nilpaurion had surfaced again… “I probably should have mentioned my excellent skills of protection,” he said, gasping for breath, before he disappeared, never to surface again. It seemed the passengers were remarkably adept at killing those who might be able to protect them… Despite his doubtful appearance, Nilp was their Ranger. --- Captain Cailín’s Log Some particularly dense people decided to kill Nilp. What the real miracle is, however, is that I still live. How about that? Eomer of the Rohirrim ~The dead ~ Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1 Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1 Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1 ~The living ~ Durelin -- eye-borrowing Jounin instructor Caranlondien -- ships's bartender Holbytlass -- whale hunter Findëasëa -- Occupational health and safety specialist Lhunardawen -- seasick reluctant traveler Kath -- plotting slave JennyHallu -- Dread Pirate Roberta Lalaith -- Football Widow Diamond18 -- Weslamond, the Dread Pirate Roberta's protégé Firefoot -- wandering traveller with a dog that dislikes pirates Gurthang -- Plank Operator Formendacil -- Ne'er-do-well stowaway of snobbish, blue-blooded origins Rune Son of Bjarne -- crazy slave, with an obsession for cheese Mormegil -- the vocal nitpick who can find fault in anything Taliesin -- criminal who was set adrift Saucepan Man -- Rear-Admiral Sir Horatio Potboiler Sir Anguirel Spens (Anguirel) Eomer of the Rohirrim -- slavedriver Glirdan -- drunken porter Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short) Night 2 has now started. Nogrod and I need names from the Seer and the Wolves. Sleep well, my pretties. Last edited by Cailín; 06-21-2006 at 03:44 PM. Reason: spelling... spelling...

06-22-2006, 03:04 PM	#3
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Argh! I told you to stay out of any ninja business! Wow, I really thought that was a throw-away vote...

06-22-2006, 03:09 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	First off, what was Nilp thinking!? Urgh. Second, why ever would the wolves kill Eomer now? He was practically a prime candidate for lynching. Now, later in the game, when thoughts of lynching him have died down, that would make sense... but now? I'm rather confused, and will have to think more about that later. I'll be away for a couple hours now, back later...

06-22-2006, 03:15 PM	#9
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	Sorry, that was a Typo.

06-22-2006, 03:47 PM	#13
Caranlondien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bag-Endless-Fuel Posts: 339	I can think of several reasons the wolves killed Eomer. There's what Fin said - that they might have thought Eomer to be the Hunter. Or maybe they thought he was the Seer. Another possibility is that they thought the Seer might dream of him. Finally, they might have just wanted to get rid of a good player who wasn't on their side. Typically, the wolves are looking for the Seer right now. So there might be some stock in looking at what Eomer said yesterDay that might have made the wolves think he was the Seer. We all know it's overwhelmingly unlikely that the Seer will dream of a wolf on Night 1, but for some reason the wolves often seem to forget that and think they've found him/her already. Still, if one or more of the wolves is an experienced player, I find it unlikely that they would have made such a mistake. Overall, I'd rather focus on the voting record. There isn't much of one now, but at least the wolves have given us the information that both our top suspects yesterDay were innocent. I'll re-read yesterDay's happenings and see if I can come up with some suspects... EDIT: cross-posted with everything since Form's last post EDIT2: changed "Ranger" to "Hunter" - thanks for pointing out the mistake Last edited by Caranlondien; 06-22-2006 at 03:52 PM.

06-22-2006, 03:35 PM	#14
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hmm, I rather glad that I lost that argument with Mister Of the Rohirrim over the Cabin now. What a strange choice of kill the Wolves made! What with Eomer attracting the second highest number of votes yesterday n'all. Then again, most of them were (seemingly) grudge votes. A few possible reasons for his untimely death. Possibly one of those who held a grudge against him. Possibly they thought him a Gifted (and so what he said yesterday will bear examination). Possibly the Wolves just felt that they couldn't take the risk of leaving an innocent Eomer running about on board. And now I am afraid that I shall have to get rather angry with you all, or at least those of you who voted for Nilp and Eomer. Bad Day 1 strategy, effectively reducing the voting to a two horse race. And, surprise surprise, they both turn out to be innocent. And one of them a Gifted too. And a valuable one at that. Made it nice n'easy for the Wolves, I'm sure. Tsk! Tsk! Pure madness, it was! Grudge votes against Eomer (so it would seem) and senseless votes against Nilp, just because he was being Nilp. Of course he had to vote for himself in his situation. That's what he always does, and so doing anything else would have attracted undue attention from the Wolves. Didn't mean others had to go and follow suit. Other than his self-vote, there was nothing suspicious about him and, for Nilp, a self-vote doesn't qualify as a suspicious action. Good grief, folks! You can't all be Wolves, those of you who voted for the two of them. Yet anyone would think you wanted the Wolves to win! Arrgh! OK, rant over. Here's yesterday's voting: 1. Morm-->Glirdan (Glirdan-1) 2. Lhuna-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-1) 3. Rune-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2) 4. Glirdan-->Kath (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1) 5. Nilp-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-2, Kath-1, Nilp-1) 6. Engels-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-1) 7. Durelin-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-3, Kath-1, Nilp-2) 8. Diamond-->Eomer (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-2) 9. Anguirel-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3) 10. Lalaith-->Form (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1) 11. Caranlondien-->Jenny (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-3, Form-1, Jenny-1) 12. Firefoot-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1) 13. SpM-->Holby (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-4, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1) 14. Holby-->Nilp (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-1) 15. JennyHallu-->Holbytlass (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2) 16. Formendacil-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-1) 17. Findeasea-->Lalaith (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2) 18. Gurthang-->Diamond (Glirdan-1, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Form-1, Jenny-1, Holby-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1) 19. Eomer-->Glirdan (Glirdan-2, Eomer-4, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1) 20. Taliesin-->Eomer (Glirdan-2, Eomer-5, Kath-1, Nilp-5, Formendacil-1, JennyHallu-1, Holbytlass-2, Lalaith-2, Diamond-1) No vote: Kath Some suspicious looking votes there. I don't like any of the votes for Nilp (excepting his own and, possibly, that of Anguirel who appeared to have been trying to save Eomer). I am particularly wary of those cast by Firefoot and Holbytlass, both of whom effectively escalated it into a choice between Eomer and Nilp, two innocents. And Firefoot's reasoning - because we have to find out about Nilp - was poor. As I have said, he was just being Nilp. You should have let him be and see how he behaved on subsequent Days. And I still suspect Holby on the basis of my reasoning from yesterday. And while Durelin does not look as suspicious as those two for her vote for Nilp, I am wary of the fact that she was so quick to arrive today and claim that she thought her vote a throwaway vote. Of course, they can't all be Wolves. I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for Nilp yesterDay. As for the Eomer voters, well I will be keeping an eye on all of them. Although, again, I doubt that more than one, or two at most, voted for him. There is probably a Wolf, possibly two, in the later "throwaway" votes, after the voting had effectively become the two-horse race between Eomer and Nilp. One further thought. While I agree with the sentiments expressed by Jenny in the closing stages of yesterday, in her frustration at all the votes for Eomer and Nilp, she does seem to have rather gone overboard with it. A Wolf would have known them both to be innocent and it was possibly a good opportunity to try to gain some credit by making it look like she was trying to save them. Perhaps that is part of the explanation as to why Eomer was killed. It doesn't place her at the top of my suspect list, but it's a thought. EDIT: Good grief! Crossed with all the posts from Glirdan's at #106! __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-22-2006, 03:37 PM	#15
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Oh, as per our vocal agreement yesterday I claim the slaves as my own! __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

06-23-2006, 09:05 AM	#17
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Here we go... Okay, I'm back and not tired... going to try and go through everyone here. Durelin - Banter on Day 1, vote for Nilp on "ninja business", later calls vote "throw away vote." There's really nothing on Durelin. Her vote for Nilp could be counted as innocent or wolvish. I'd like to see more from her. Borderline. Caran - Wants to lynch the goose, vote for Jenny because she can be a cunning wolf, speculation on the killing of Eomer, trusts Jenny and SpM, suspicious of Gurthang and Glirdan, unconvinced by Morm, response to Glirdan. Caran seems innocent. She says all the "right" things and seems sensible enough. I'm interested that she votes Jenny, then comes back and says she trusts her. Leaning innocent. Holbytlass - General Day 1 comments, rather vague commentary, points out some people she thinks may be bluffing, vote for Nilp to keep Eomer alive even though she'd rather vote for Durelin (not wanting to add another candidate to list), attack on Jenny. I am disinclined to suspect her overmuch for her vote, and I'm not sure why you all are suspecting her but not Ang; her vote didn't seem terribly different from his as far as I am concerned, with the exception of her actually wanting to vote Durelin, but I understand her logic. Her rather vague analysis on Day 1 might be called a wolf not really being helpful, but that seems like a normal sort of Holby thing. Leaning innocent. Findëasëa - response to Eomer's point about people acting normally, comments about lovers, slightly suspicious of Glirdan, Holby seeming innocent, Nilp and Eomer both probably innocent, Lalaith fitting her pattern for wolf, vote Lalaith, thoughts why wolves killed Eomer, suspicious of Jenny, analysis post of select people. I've never played with her before, but she seems to be quite sensible and helpful. Her posts generally aren't long, but they're very explicit and say a lot. She could be a clever wolf, uncontroversially pointing out her suspicions and likely innocents, but right now I think she's probably innocent. Lhuna - Firefoot and Gurthand lovers, wolves: Fin, Taliesin, tgwbs, vote Eomer. Pretty standard Lhuna... probably innocent. The rest are coming... I promise.

06-23-2006, 09:11 AM	#18
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	Rune- Votes early for Eomer. Thinks Eomer was killed to create confusion and calls attention towards Nilp’s death. Makes comments about how he is not sure, and confused. Gives helpful suggestions. He defends Jenny’s actions. He makes comments about the Morm and Anguirel situation. He makes a few opinions about people known, but these seem to be mostly attributed to gut feelings. Rune seems suspicious to me because much of the opinions in his post are direct responses or reflections of other people’s ideas. This could be a way for a wolf to avoid blame and to create confusion. Also the fact many of his opinions are based on ‘gut feelings’ seems strange. Formendacil – Says that he is tempted to vote for himself. Jokes about how this will probably get him killed. He votes for Lalaith. He defends his choice to Jenny. He thinks confusion was aim of Eomer’s death, but also that one of the people who voted Eomer is a wolf. Later he defends his vote further, commenting that he was not aware of the tie when he voted. For some reason I find his comment about not knowing that the votes were tied a little strange. Although not beyond reason, especially since he was on a computer at the library, it just seemed very defensive. That is all that I have time to do toDay. I think that the rest of the people who I did not have time to write about have all been receiving attention as it is. Since I will probably sleep through the deadline, I will vote. ++Lalaith For the reasons that I listed in post #162. She is most suspicious to me.