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Old 06-12-2006, 02:58 PM   #1
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Well, thanks Encai, even though those statistics won't in my opinion tell much in the WP hunt, it was interesting to read them. However, you might have done yourself a disservice by spending so much time on them. We haven't got your own opinions toDay which isn't good.

Now that Ang has started talking again, my suspicions of him have partly returned, but considering how Boro acted regarding him makes me hesitate. When I look at Boro's post #33, I'm most worried about Firefoot and Naria. It's interesting, too, that Boromir refrained from giving his thoughts about Roa in that post, but just explained what a theory is. Right now Roa isn't very high in my suspicion list, though.

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Firefoot, if innocent can greatly benefit the village, if penguin would probably be our demise. But we shouldn't lynch a player like Firefoot on Day 1, unless she wants to tell us a little secret that only 2 other people know?
That smiley is worrysome, too.

Other than that, from Day 1 one interesting thing about Ff was her reaction to me saying: "When I return, I hope to have time to take a look at Firefoot and Roa - and sir Anguirel, perhaps."

"That caught my eye too. Actually, more interesting to me is that Spawn brought up Roa and myself in the first place at that point... I only had one post, and it wasn't exactly a very weighty one either. Not exactly much to look at." ~Firefoot

Yes. All those who had posted at that point had made just one or two posts, so I could have chosen anyone and it would still have been the same situation. Ff is expressing her point quite coolly, but if she's a WP she knows not to overreact, and I think an innocent villager would probably have left it without a comment.

As to Naria, I keep forgetting that she's in this village.

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Naria I don't know at this point. Naria seems to be one of those silent contributors. Doesn't have to post a lot (unlike me) to have solid input and contribution to the village. I will be expecting to see more substance instead of just, hi I'm tired bye, but in this early going there's no reason to cry penguin.
Boromir speaks in a quite positive tone about Naria even though she barely said anything. I think someone (phantom?) already mentioned that, so sorry if I'm repeating things. Also the choice of words, "in this early going there's no reason to cry penguin", is a bit dubious.

Ah well, back to rereading.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:07 PM   #2
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Ack! I just have time to get on quick and vote (due to RL) I may have time to pop in again before the deadline, but I am not sure.

++Spawn

She has been acting off her game and it worries me. I just have expected more from her.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:11 PM   #3
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Mac for Dead-Eonwe
Di for Spawn
Ang for Enca
Naria for Spawn

There are still six votes out there, and only 45 minutes to vote. Things will probably get busy sometime soon.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:15 PM   #4
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My suspicions of Encai are starting to lessen, since I'm not sure that a wolf would spend all that time going through post counts of old games. That seems more like an innocent just trying to do anything that might possibly help find a wolf.
Sure.

Then again, it could be a wolf tossing out a lot of information that obviously took some time to gather in an attempt to look innocent, knowing full well that the results probably won't yield anything concrete (because of things like village make-up and situation that can't be taken into account in post counts).
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:26 PM   #5
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The clock is ticking and I'm really not sure who to vote for. Above all things I do not want to bandwagon... I am considering voting for Naria because she has barely contributed anything. I understand this is in part due to RL, but even her list of suspicion in post #298 really doesn't say anything.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:32 PM   #6
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*sigh* so quiet today....

I really feel the need to vote with my gut again today so it will be either

Anguirel
Firefoot
Naria

in that order of suspicion...I still think Ang has been really off this whole game and his switch in voting is odd. He is pushing for all the people that I think are innocent, so it will probably be him......I'll be back shortly.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:39 PM   #7
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I'm not sure that I agree with others' top suspects (Spawn, Ang) -- I don't know that there's enough conclusive evidence to label either of them a WP, and the odds are against us for catching a WP anyway. If it turns out that I am wrong, then I shall of course look at these suspects with a more scrutinizing (and accusatory) eye, but for now it shall be

++ NARIA

EDIT: Cross-posted with Firefoot.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:39 PM   #8
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Here's where I'm at for voting candidates:

Valier: I don't know. She's fading on and off my radar - some things she does are really suspicious, others seem totally innocent. Part of me says that her death might really say something (or shoot holes in most of my theories...), but I've suspected her a lot, and I can't help but feel as if I've gotten stuck on her, and don't know if that's merited or not.

Naria: I keep coming back to her. She's been so quiet; she really is just a wild card and I don't know what to do with her. The biggest thing I can ever remember about her is that Valier keeps on mentioning her, and that makes me extremely uneasy about both of them.

Encai: A lot like Valier. I don't know what to do with Encai either.

Spawn: Now that I've actually seen some recent posts of hers, I really don't know what to think. They seem logical and reasoned enough, but for some reason I can't shake the feeling that she might be a penguin. I don't want to vote for her toDay, though; I'd like to give her another Day or so to really get caught back up.

You know what's wrong with me? I figured it out. You all are used to a Firefoot who goes about on tenterhooks because she's never at all sure about wolves. Ever. I'm notorious for getting them wrong. In this game, I finally felt reasonably sure about something. Last Night, I was absolutely confident that I had finally found a wolf or two. Really, I was sure of it. Maybe it was because I was so tired that I was feeling almost reckless. I don't know. But I am never sure about things, and I was. That, combined with being tired, is why I've seemed so different to you all. And now with all these accusations flying my way, I don't even trust myself and feel like I have no idea what I'm doing.

So I guess that puts the voting at:

Eonwe – 1 (Macalaure 1)
Spawn – 1 (Diamond 2)
Encai – 1 (Ang 3)
Spawn – 1 (Naria 4)
Naria – 1 (Spawn 5)
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I'm afraid I can't stay awake till the end. I'll be around for a couple more minutes, but here's my vote anyway.

++Naria

Based on Boro's actions I find Naria suspicious. She's so quiet that we will never find out by analysing her posts if she's guilty or not, and even if she's not, she certainly isn't helping much in catching the WPs.

Good Night, choose well!
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I would now like to refer you back to Lalaith on Day 2.
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Firstly, and most importantly: the person I dreamt of last night was not on the evil side. What else s/he might be, I will of course not divulge.
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But whether phantom is anything more, I leave for the penguins to find out, if they dare.
Our dearly departed Lalaith wasn't trying to fool the Penguins when she said this. I am THE HUNTER.

I can hear you screaming now, "What are you doing?! Revealing?! Why?! The Penguins won't kill you now and your kill is worthless!"

But that is simply not true. The Penguins will still kill me. They aren't idiots. No matter what, a Werecreature does not leave proven innocents hanging about. It stacks the odds against them in a ridiculous way in the latter stages of the game.

What I am accomplishing by revealing is this- I am going to give you a proven innocent (probably) for one more day.

How am I going to do that? First, remember that the Hunter in this game is a "logical Hunter", and so only takes his night pick with him if the pick is a Penguin. So, I'm going to tell you exactly who my night pick is before today ends. Odds are it will be an innocent. And so, when I die tonight and my pick stays alive, you can rest assured that they are innocent.

The next night, the Penguins will obviously kill them, but oh well- at least I gave you one person to rule out for one extra day.

And if they're stupid and leave me alive, then they'll be in big trouble at the end, because if they finally wise up and realize that they need to get rid of the proven innocent (me), the chances of me taking one of them with me will be high with a lower population.

And if they decide to leave me alive in an attempt to make my pick look guilty, I have a nice little way to deal with that after another night. If I get a chance to do it, you'll realize why people think I'm so smart.

Tonight's pick will be Valier. If Val is lynched today and found guilty, Firefoot will be my pick. If Valier is lynched and found innocent, Naria will be my pick.

Good luck everyone.

+ + Naria
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:11 PM   #11
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Yes. All those who had posted at that point had made just one or two posts, so I could have chosen anyone and it would still have been the same situation. Ff is expressing her point quite coolly, but if she's a WP she knows not to overreact, and I think an innocent villager would probably have left it without a comment.
I did leave it without a comment... until two or three people were already discussing it.

My suspicions of Encai are starting to lessen, since I'm not sure that a wolf would spend all that time going through post counts of old games. That seems more like an innocent just trying to do anything that might possibly help find a wolf.
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