Outracing the Flames Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arry · 06-08-2006, 01:17 PM

About Epilogs

They should be on board by June 24th - at that time I will ask Pio to move the game to Elvenhome.

Tevildo · 06-08-2006, 03:04 PM

Arry,

Yes, Sighebert's fortress is fine as well as the fact that the villagers survived.

I'll start working on my post.

Folwren · 06-09-2006, 07:05 PM

I have a question. How long is it until the Wulfhamers arrive at Hengistham? A fortnight after our company gets there? Longer? Less time?

-- Folwren

Nogrod · 06-09-2006, 07:37 PM

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I have a question. How long is it until the Wulfhamers arrive at Hengistham? A fortnight after our company gets there? Longer? Less time?

If they are just refugees trying to find a shelter somewhere, they probably won't be driving to Hengistham just like that? How could they just hunch it like that if it was "a gift" of generosity by a good-hearted lord in Edoras? They (and Bregowarians too) would probably try first Croacht. But that might be overpopulated if all the villages from the east are on the move... The Wolfhamers might have been there early enough to fit in, but at least the Bregowarians would have had so long a journey, that it should be quite full by the time they reached it? That's why I thought it important to mention the searching for the villages (Wulfham & Bregoware) by our characters after having the promise that they could all come to Hengisthan.

But someone more at home with the map could come up with a calculation where they could be and where Hengistham is in the first place. That would help a lot.

My post will probably have a short description of a Bregoware group (not including Meghan based on Undómë's will) going to search all the refugees around the eastern Rohan for the Bregowarians, finding them and settling for a while in Hengistham. I'm still waiting for Farael for a comfirmation about this.

But have you any ideas how the Bregowarians (or Wulfhamers) would settle after the initial run-away? The war of the rings is coming, but would they know it? Would they try to re-settle their homelands or not in the beginning? And if not, where would they be re-settled?

Folwren · 06-09-2006, 08:44 PM

I thought that Brand and his group and Osmod and his group had set off from home as forerunners of their villages. The main body of people were to travel after them, more slowly, is this not correct? If that's the case, in a little while, they'll reach Edoras, recieve the same, cold welcome from the King and they'll have to be taken somewhere. Not everyone, necessarily, will fit into the walls of Hengistham, but they can at least go to that area and settle down around it until they can return to their home (not for another several months, after the war is over). Many of the men may leave to join the Kings army when he either goes to Helm's Deep, or when he comes through Edoras a second time on his way to Gondor. The women and children will be left in and around Edoras. . .am I not correct in thinking this?

And, really, all this may be very incorrect. I'm tired and have had a long day, and I thought that the villages were going to be following the smaller companies towards Edoras.

-- Folwren

Arry · 06-09-2006, 10:44 PM

The villages were headed toward Edoras; that was their original plan. They still think the King is his own man. They know nothing of Grima and his influence on Théoden.

The villages were not taking the same route as the riders - they were moving east and a little southward in their route and moving very slowly - carts, flocks and most afoot.

Please read my last post. Théodred and his men will see to it that they (both villages) are intercepted and escorted to Hengistham, whose lord Sighebert is NOT under the influence of Grima. Théodred will divert the 2 villages from their path toward Edoras. He is well aware that his Father will most likely not allow the villages to entreat him to be taken under his protection. So, Théodred will take them to one of the lords who will see to the protection of fellow Men of the Mark.

Hengistham is a hill fortress as is Edoras - there is much land (rolling plains) about it which is farmed and used for raising horses. There will be room for the small villages of Bregoware and Wulfham to set up a rude camp about the foot of the grassy hill where Sighebert has his home and mead hall. He may even welcome the addition of more Riders to swell the ranks of his own defensive troops. When war comes to Rohan from Isengard I don't think that Hengistham will be hit. It lies about 2 1/2 - 3 days ride north of Edoras, It will not be in the path of the attacking army of Saruman.

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This game is set in the late autumn of the year 3017 III Age. Grima has been 'advising' Théoden,now, since 3014 III Age.

In 2 years, 3019 III Age, Théodred will be slain by Saruman's forces at the First Battle of the Isen. About 5 days later, will be when Gandalf comes to see Théoden along with Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas

I doubt the Villages understand at present that a big war is coming, but they do understand that something has stirred up the foes of the Free Peoples and is trying to kill them off little by little.

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How about I say that it will be about 2 weeks after the companions arrive at Hengistham, perhaps just a little more before the 2 Villages arrive at Hengistham. That way - if Sythric and Osmod wish, they can ride out to join with them as they march in. There should be some sort of news come to Hengistham that a large group of refugees is heading their way under the protection of Théodred. And let's assume for our purposes that Théodred has sent word or already spoken with Sighebert about the refugees arrival and that Sighebert has said yes.

Can everyone please try to make this work for them. And honestly it should not be a problem if you skip far enough ahead for your Epilog - which should deal primarily with what your character is doing in some future year of your choice.

Nogrod · 06-10-2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Arry

Can everyone please try to make this work for them. And honestly it should not be a problem if you skip far enough ahead for your Epilog - which should deal primarily with what your character is doing in some future year of your choice.

No problem. Sorry, I seem to be able to make a mountain out of a molehill everytime I just ask a question about some detail that seem to me to be a bit odd...

I try to post mine today - tomorrow.

06-08-2006, 01:17 PM	#1
Arry Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 704	About Epilogs They should be on board by June 24th - at that time I will ask Pio to move the game to Elvenhome. __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world – J.R.R. Tolkien

06-08-2006, 03:04 PM	#2
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	Arry, Yes, Sighebert's fortress is fine as well as the fact that the villagers survived. I'll start working on my post. __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

06-09-2006, 07:05 PM	#3
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I have a question. How long is it until the Wulfhamers arrive at Hengistham? A fortnight after our company gets there? Longer? Less time? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

06-09-2006, 08:44 PM	#5
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I thought that Brand and his group and Osmod and his group had set off from home as forerunners of their villages. The main body of people were to travel after them, more slowly, is this not correct? If that's the case, in a little while, they'll reach Edoras, recieve the same, cold welcome from the King and they'll have to be taken somewhere. Not everyone, necessarily, will fit into the walls of Hengistham, but they can at least go to that area and settle down around it until they can return to their home (not for another several months, after the war is over). Many of the men may leave to join the Kings army when he either goes to Helm's Deep, or when he comes through Edoras a second time on his way to Gondor. The women and children will be left in and around Edoras. . .am I not correct in thinking this? And, really, all this may be very incorrect. I'm tired and have had a long day, and I thought that the villages were going to be following the smaller companies towards Edoras. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

06-09-2006, 10:44 PM	#6
Arry Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 704	The villages *were* headed toward Edoras; that was their original plan. They still think the King is his own man. They know nothing of Grima and his influence on Théoden. The villages were not taking the same route as the riders - they were moving east and a little southward in their route and moving very slowly - carts, flocks and most afoot. Please read my last post. Théodred and his men will see to it that they (both villages) are intercepted and escorted to Hengistham, whose lord Sighebert is NOT under the influence of Grima. Théodred will divert the 2 villages from their path toward Edoras. He is well aware that his Father will most likely not allow the villages to entreat him to be taken under his protection. So, Théodred will take them to one of the lords who will see to the protection of fellow Men of the Mark. Hengistham is a hill fortress as is Edoras - there is much land (rolling plains) about it which is farmed and used for raising horses. There will be room for the small villages of Bregoware and Wulfham to set up a rude camp about the foot of the grassy hill where Sighebert has his home and mead hall. He may even welcome the addition of more Riders to swell the ranks of his own defensive troops. When war comes to Rohan from Isengard I don't think that Hengistham will be hit. It lies about 2 1/2 - 3 days ride north of Edoras, It will not be in the path of the attacking army of Saruman. --------- This game is set in the late autumn of the year 3017 III Age. Grima has been 'advising' Théoden,now, since 3014 III Age. In 2 years, 3019 III Age, Théodred will be slain by Saruman's forces at the First Battle of the Isen. About 5 days later, will be when Gandalf comes to see Théoden along with Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas I doubt the Villages understand at present that a big war is coming, but they do understand that something has stirred up the foes of the Free Peoples and is trying to kill them off little by little. --------- How about I say that it will be about 2 weeks after the companions arrive at Hengistham, perhaps just a little more before the 2 Villages arrive at Hengistham. That way - if Sythric and Osmod wish, they can ride out to join with them as they march in. There should be some sort of news come to Hengistham that a large group of refugees is heading their way under the protection of Théodred. And let's assume for our purposes that Théodred has sent word or already spoken with Sighebert about the refugees arrival and that Sighebert has said yes. Can everyone please try to make this work for them. And honestly it should not be a problem if you skip far enough ahead for your Epilog - which should deal primarily with what your character is doing in some future year of your choice. __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world – J.R.R. Tolkien