Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXII: Hic Monstrae Trucidant

[mormegil]

I believe this is correct but I'm doing it from memory from last night. I think we can glean some information from this list. If I am wrong it may be LMP but I'm not certain.
Mentioned seldom if ever by Tom

• Lhuna
• Cailin
• Celuien
• Nogrod
• LMP
• Mith

Mentioned Frequently by Tom

• TGWBS
• Lommy
• Caran
• Morm
• Durelin

Tom seems the type that would mention very little of his fellows. That raises my suspicion of everybody on the first list substantially as I remember very little of them in Tom's posts. Conversely my suspicion of the second list has lowered and the Durelin piece from yesterday, sorry but I wasn't around real time, seems to ring true and I find her innocent now. As much as I hate to admit it I believe TGWBS innocent as well. A side note I believe Cailin is the changling as well and thought so yesterday but didn't vocalize it.

Perhaps the time is not yet ripe but with our ranger protection last night we may know a number of innocents. I think our seer needs to contemplate revealing how much he/she knows. Then the ranger maybe able to step forward if the information he/she possess is likely to help. If it is done in this manner we don't expose the ranger if not necessary.

[Caranlondien]

I made the same lists, morm, but actually I thought it quite likely that Tom mentioned one if not both of his cohorts. Perhaps what would be more helpful (though more time consuming) would be to look at the context in which he mentioned or ignored people - for instance, were all his suspects already under suspicion when he mentioned them?

As for your suggestion about the Seer and the Ranger, we'll just have to leave that up to them, but it's a definitely a possible course of action.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Caranlondien

I made the same lists, morm, but actually I thought it quite likely that Tom mentioned one if not both of his cohorts. Perhaps what would be more helpful (though more time consuming) would be to look at the context in which he mentioned or ignored people - for instance, were all his suspects already under suspicion when he mentioned them?

As for your suggestion about the Seer and the Ranger, we'll just have to leave that up to them, but it's a definitely a possible course of action.

I came to my conclusion Caran because he mentioned me frequently and you. These are two known innocents in my mind and therefore the pattern ran true. His behavior was such that he would see something and go after it a bit gingerly so as to not stick out too much. There was something else too but I can't remember currently and don't have time to look. I think it's advisable for everybody to go back and read every post that Tom wrote, there are only 12.

[Thinlómien]

...except Lhuna and Noggie who are wolves and will be lynched.

Yes, I'm the seer, if you didn't get that yet.

For selfish reasons I suggest we lynch Noggie first - then he can concentrate better to co-modding the junior-game with me.

++Nogrod


For all who are interested:

My dreams
Night 1 - Celuien
I thought it'd be strange if she wasn't a wolf this time - as far as I know she has never been one.
Night 2 - SPM
His behaviour freaked me out on Day1.
Night 3 - LMP
His behaviour and insubstanciality (sp?) worried me too.
Night 4 - Nogrod
I was so worried with the possibility that he was a wolf 'cos all the village trusted him, so I decided to check it.
Night 5 - Lhuna
Well, reading through her, Nogrod's, tom's and morm's & Mith's (my remaining suspects alongside with Lhuna) posts it became quite evident she was the last wolf unknown to me.

Big thanks to Cailín for yesterday. You enabled me cathcing Lhuna.

An apology to morm from a rather fierce attack on him. I never even dreamed of you...

[Celuien]

Hurray for Lommy and her brillant Seer's gift!

++ NOGROD

And you're right. I've never been a wolf. I'm destined to be innocent to the end.

[Caranlondien]

Wow...

++Nogrod

Thank you, Lommy, for your excellent Seer-ing.

[littlemanpoet]

Well, Celuien is not the seer after all. I was wrong about that.

I'm not a werewolf; Mormegil, you're clearly now wrong about that.

Well done, Lommy. Excellent job of hiding and seering!

++ NOGROD

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Well, Celuien is not the seer after all. I was wrong about that.

I thought that's where you were going when I reviewed the thread. I was pretty in the open as a potential Seer after that list of yours. I wasn't sure I'd wake up alive.

But I'm always game to be innocent ordo wolf bait to keep gifteds safe.

[Nogrod]

C'mon! The wolves are getting jumpy - and seemingly desperate. Who knows why? Being utmost scared - for no reason? Funny. The village is full of experienced and "cool" players and the wolves seem to be the jumpiest of us all. But as the things call it, I will have to come forwards with the little I know.

So I think the wolves messed up toNight and losing tom was just too much (not perhaps Lommy, but her evil friend who's dictating all this).

Sorry 'bout this, but Lommy is fooling you. I know it.

I knew from the first Day onwards that Spm was innocent. On Night2 I checked at Cailín who seemed to be too innocent - and she proved to be one. On Night3 I went after Morm and as you may see from my posts: over that idea I tried to ease up with my initial suspicions on him - not being too vocal about it as I had my role to cover up. I checked tgwbs on Night4 as I really suspected him along the other village. Well Cailín did her job for me that Night and that dream was somewhat wasted...

I called for possible co-operation between the Seer and the changeling from the beginning, and here we go, double-dreaming...

Last night I was worried about Celuien as she seemed so innocent to me. Well I found her innocent too. You see, I'm a bit romantic: beneath the rationalization I will like to see those who just "sit right" with me. She was a bit too quiet and non-participiant.

So the innocents on the game now (by myself and Cailín)
Cailín - the Changeling or an ordo playing a wicked game, Kath didn't reveal her status but said she was "innocent"
Morm - checked innocent.
tgwbs - innocent, that was a relief as I was ready to go after him...
Celuien - I was so worried about myself bing so trustful of her.

I seem to have been as baffled as you other villagers. Tom was taken with a wild guess and a case that could have been built up on anyone. We really have been and are quite at loss. I hope you will not kill me so that I can make another dream.

Remember: the wolves like to lead us astray. They already have done that...

[Thinlómien]

Oh, Nogrod, too proud to give up?

But really. Let's lynch him so that you all can believe me if you already don't. Or if you don't want to lynch your "seer", let's lynch his wolvish companion, Lhuna. Then you'll see I'm the one who speaks the truth. Or if we have time, lynch me. Then you see I'm the seer.

See, I'm the one naming some lynchees, he just echoes known things.

And he's flip-floppy:

Last night I was worried about Celuien as she seemed so innocent to me. Well I found her innocent too. You see, I'm a bit romantic: beneath the rationalization I will like to see those who just "sit right" with me. She was a bit too quiet and non-participiant.

Clearly you can't even decide the reason why you "dreamed" of Celuien...

[Celuien]

Quiet and non-participant. Haha, Wolfgrod.

User Name....................Posts
Caranlondien.................64
Mithalwen......................57
Celuien..........................52
Nogrod..........................46
the guy who be short....46

The numbers speak for themselves.

[Durelin]

Wow...I'm really quite surprised that I was not killed last night.

Foolish to go after Caran. Did they really think the Ranger would just skip a night before the Seer showed themselves?

And it seems they have...

I seem to have been as baffled as you other villagers. Tom was taken with a wild guess and a case that could have been built up on anyone.

Pfft... Okay, that decides it.

++Nogrod

Though it might be safer to lynch Lhuna.

What can I say...I don't trust people normally, and especially not when werewolves are about...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Oh, Nogrod, too proud to give up?

But really. Let's lynch him so that you all can believe me if you already don't. Or if you don't want to lynch your "seer", let's lynch his wolvish companion, Lhuna. Then you'll see I'm the one who speaks the truth. Or if we have time, lynch me. Then you see I'm the seer.

See, I'm the one naming some lynchees, he just echoes known things.

And he's flip-floppy:
Clearly you can't even decide the reason why you "dreamed" of Celuien...

Well, Celuien looked so white that I just had to check her. She would have made a terribly efficient wolf as no one really suspected her. A wolf might come up with the all powerful knowledge of those who are innoncents or not - we villagers, even gifteds - can't do it. We have no idea about the whole of the village, just from the part we have dreamed. So we are on the mercy of a good luck or hunches, the wolves know their trade...

I guess Lhuna will be a wolf. Lommy seems to know it... Just to gain believability she's ready to sacrifice her mate - whom she knows will not be available until later on the Day. So not even needing to face her eye for an eye.

And on the same time I'm quite proud of my daughter. You are really wicked! It's not certain which one of us is hanging on the poles this evening, but I hope your wolvish scheaming gets the result it deservers..

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I guess Lhuna will be a wolf. Lommy seems to know it... Just to gain believability she's ready to sacrifice her mate - whom she knows will not be available until later on the Day. So not even needing to face her eye for an eye.

Great that you see your own cowardice. Don't have to see her eye for an eye indeed...

Seriously, if there's even one villagers who belives Nogrod over me, let's lynch me. Then I will be proven the seer and Nogrod has no way of swaying anyone.

And ask if Nogrod's ready to do that for the village... (Speaking of proposing himself to be lynched, o'course...)

Now I'm leaving Wolfgrod to say the last word for the RL night and go to sleep. I doubt he will come up with anything convincing. If he does, keep in mind you can always lynch me and we innocents still win. It's 3:27 AM here. Fortunately it's the summer holiday...

edit: xed with Durelin

[mormegil]

Well, glad to see my 'seer come forward' request wasn't viewed as suspicious .

Nogrod, sorry lad but the attempt while 'valiant' is laughable.

++Nogrod.