Barrow-Down Dreams

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I had a weird dream last night too. I can't remember much of it. All I can recall is that there was some recording device attached to the Downs so that people could record messages and speak to each other. For some reason, Formendacil had left his running unintentionally and then inadvertently sent the message to me. The message solely comprised "um's" and "ah's" and the occasional creak of a chair ...

Dr Dream ...?

This is quite obvious. You subconsciously wish that Formy would stop hesitating and get to the point.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

This is quite obvious. You subconsciously wish that Formy would stop hesitating and get to the point.

Is this a subtle comment about Hyarmenwë's recent lack of posting on the AtM2 thread?

So, Oddwen, what do you think of Canadians? The rest of it's easy....

Trash, all of them. Beer-drinking, tree-chopping, hockey-watching, snowshoeing, polar bear-hugging, tipi-dwelling sons of voyageurs that they are, how can anyone like them, eh? I shall we hang them all, eh!

(For the ignorant: Formendacil is a denizen of Olds, Alberta, Canada)

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Is this a subtle comment about Hyarmenwë's recent lack of posting on the AtM2 thread?

The doctor is expressly objective in all his assessments. But take it that way if you wish. .... and get posting!

[Oddwen]

Originally Posted by Dr. Dream

So, Oddwen, what do you think of Canadians?

I think Tom Servo said it best...

Originally Posted by MST3k it's a joke don't kill me

"Just where the heck does Canada get off sharing a border
With countries far superior to it?
Why ya lously stinkin' francophilic bacon loving buzzards,
Your country's just a giant piece of..."

(Big hug to all you Canadians, eh. I've never been there.)

I also had a dream last night - I dreamed I knew every last Barrow-downers real name (they would show up on the member's list for some reason), but none interested me except for Diamond88's. (Yes, 88) So I went to Wisconsin to the hospital (?) where she worked, and stalked all her co-workers. Diamond88 was, um...a rather buxom nurse and yet still looked like Daffy Duck.
Lalwendë's real name was Leroy Brown.

Feel free not to analize that, O Impish one.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Oddwen

I also had a dream last night - I dreamed I knew every last Barrow-downers real name (they would show up on the member's list for some reason), but none interested me except for Diamond88's. (Yes, 88) So I went to Wisconsin to the hospital (?) where she worked, and stalked all her co-workers. Diamond88 was, um...a rather buxom nurse and yet still looked like Daffy Duck.
Lalwendë's real name was Leroy Brown.

Feel free not to analize that, O Impish one.

You're obviously psychic. You see, I happen to know that Diamond18 is a buxom nurse who looks like Daffy Duck. And Lalwendë isLeroy Brown (makes you wonder about that marriage to davem, now don't it?)

But seriously: hospitals are places of healing and Diamond18 is bigger (in your estimation) than she claims to be. And she's funny in a, well, daffy way. All of which makes her a healer. I haven't the foggiest on Lal. Not enough info, deary.

Originally Posted by Lommy

It seems BD dreams really haunt me...

I had a dream that there was a huge larp (live action role playing game) set in the middle ages and a lot of 'downers were playing in it. I played a middle-aged widowed noblewoman and I had a black gown. Lhuna was playing my daughter and she had similar gown to mine, but it was the same colour as her avvie's background. (Sorry Mith for stealing your child. ) I remeber that Fea was a widowed noblewoman too, but she was young. And Ang was a monk and morm was a common guardsman. Make of that what you will...

Seems you're still processing DWWW XXI.

Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar

Dear Dr. Dream, I never dream about the Downs! What do you think that means?

It means you aren't in need of processing complex inner stuff. Either that or you're a dull lady. Although Roa & Kath do have something....

Originally Posted by Oddwen

Alright...last night I dreamed I went to work (BK), and I punched in, and my manager Mary was showing me the schedule, but right next to it this new topic on the BD's opened up. I can't remember what it was called, but I remember the third post was by this unregistered user named something like "unbalthawen".

Two posts later, the user had registered, and was saying something like "The Only Real Estel and Oddwen are the rockingest people on the planet and I only like them, but Oddwen, I've been to Holland and I don't think I should associate with you."

Then people I didn't recognize started joining in and saying how awesome I was and how much they adored me. (Malkatoj may have been one of these.)

It was a quite possibly the best dream I've ever had. Although it was starting to get quite sad, as the posts got more and more off-topic and I felt the BW was going to close it soon. But I've never been to Holland.

A mixture of very good and very sad, actually. There's a similarity in spelling between Holland and Oddwen, in a weird way, but that's what dreams are about. Basically Unbalthawen is saying you're cool but not enough for me to meet you. That might explain the 'Un'. That's my best stab. TORE, I haven't the foggiest idea what it means about you. It most likely depends on what Oddwen associates you with.

Except for one possibility, which reading Diamond's dream brought to mind. "The Only Real Estel" = the only real hope. We all know that. So whenever you're in a BDer's dream, unless they know you REAL well, there's this "deepest hope of the heart" element in it. Which makes me think about how the only dream I ever had, had TORE in it too!

Ouch. Dr. Dream has a headache after all that. Unpaid, no less. Grrr.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

But seriously: hospitals are places of healing and Diamond18 is bigger (in your estimation) than she claims to be. And she's funny in a, well, daffy way. All of which makes her a healer.

How does being buxom and funny make me a healer? *scratches head*

Except for one possibility, which reading Diamond's dream brought to mind. "The Only Real Estel" = the only real hope. We all know that. So whenever you're in a BDer's dream, unless they know you REAL well, there's this "deepest hope of the heart" element in it.

Ha ha, yeah, my knight in shining armour. Er....

I sound like a very logical person in your dream.

Well, it made perfect sense to me at the time.

I think I figured out why it was Enca (or something like Enca's sn) who posted rudely in my dream. Her avatar says "Get lost." It's the only thing I can think of, since I can't think of any other reason why she'd play such a role. I have always loved that avatar, but apparently my subconcious finds it rude.

[the guy who be short]

I dreamt about Formendacil.

My family were on holiday with him. We all had this suite in a hotel with a shared living room and separate rooms. When we got there, I think there was some kind of ancient riddle on parchment...

My family and I went out to socialise with the other hotel guests downstairs. I came up in the middle of the night, I forget why, to find three of the windows open. I can't remember whether Form was in or not, but I remember being certain that he'd somehow been transported to the 12th Century and had had amazing adventures. The air smelt different - it was heavy, almost magically scented. Furthermore, each of the three windows blew in different smelling air. I've forgotten one, I think one may have been an earthy scent, and the other was definitely rain.

These different air currents - each beautiful in its own right - were definitely related to Form's adventures in Medieval Europe. I closed each of the windows, having difficulty with the last, rainy one, before going down.

When I came up again with my family, heavy curtains were drawn across all the windows, shutting out all outside light. In fact, they may have been tapestries. I can't remember what Form was doing - I think he was shut in his room. But something magical, or Faerie, as our Dr. Dream would say, was definitely going on in our suite.

Unfortunately, I don't remember anything in detail, like what Form did, what he said, etc. It all comes down to wonderful magical feelings, really.



So... LMP? Influences: I've been reading about Medieval Europe. I've been thinking about Form a lot - I want to ask if he's sane or not.

[The 1,000 Reader]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

How does being buxom and funny make me a healer? *scratches head*

when I first read that post I wasn't paying attention, so I thought you called yourself a buxom healer. My reaction was "Woah, I don't think she'd be that kind of healer."

Think about it for a while and it'll click. Just wanted to share this in case anyone thought it would be funny.


This is more of a LOTR dream, but I dreamt that a bunch of infection forms from Halo were eating Sauron. It was rather funny watching him run around with his arms flailing in the dream.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Oddwen

Lalwendë's real name was Leroy Brown.

Not Bad, Bad Leroy Brown?

Here's a weird dream...

I was back in the high school I attended in 11th grade. BW and SpM were two of the teachers. (They weren't fighting. ) I got sent by one of them (I forget which) to welcome guests to the school, who turned out to be Bethberry and Mithalwen. We went to the auditorium - inexplicably connected to the kitchen of a house I lived in 10 years ago that's actually a good 3000 miles from the HS - and listened to them give a lecture. Which I couldn't hear, and when I could hear it, I couldn't understand because it was in an unidentifiable foreign language. Other Downers (sorry, I can't remember who), were also in the audience and looked very intent on listening. At the end, everyone cheered.

I also had a dream that various moderators PMed me for being off topic and a general nuisance on the forums. I was threatened with being banned if I didn't behave myself.

[littlemanpoet]

I didn't see any request for interp from Celuien, so I'm not doing it without permission.

Originally Posted by Diamond

How does being buxom and funny make me a healer?

The nurse part, you nit. Being funny helps too. Buxom has to do with .... you don't want to know.

TGWBS, I think your dream is almost completely a processing of your recent conversations with Formy and your desire for things mythical and beyond the mundane and/or present. That Formy goes and you don't, especially suggests the desire for something Formy has but you don't. You can sense it but you can't go there....

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

I didn't see any request for interp from Celuien, so I'm not doing it without permission.

Well, anything I've posted here is fair game. Analyze away, if it's not too boring a dream.

[Orominuialwen]

Originally Posted by Celuien

Not Bad, Bad Leroy Brown?

Or Encyclopedia Brown?

Originally Posted by Mith

I don't have many close relatives so I am really touched to have an expanding cyber family

Could I adopt you as an aunt, then? I'm not at all close to any of my real aunts and you're much more fun. How could I go wrong with an aunt with such a love of choral music and Lord Peter Wimsey?


I had a terrible BD dream last night. In my dream, I logged on to the 'Downs and the background, instead of being black, was a sort of swirly dark blue and green. There was a big notice on the forum's main page saying that the 'Downs was permanently closed and would never reopen. I remember crying a lot in the dream. The eerie thing is that when I woke up, I had tears in my eyes and all over my face. The dream must have gotten to me so much that I actually cried while I was asleep. It was probably the second saddest dream I've ever had, after the dream I had where my brother died.


A few weeks ago, I dreamt that I got a text message from LMP. I was in a parking lot somewhere when it came, and I remember wondering how he had gotten my phone number. The message turned out to just be notifying me that LMP had PMed me.


I had this last dream several months ago. In it, Kitanna and Firefoot had decided to join my robotics team. It was right before we were supposed to leave for Chicago for our competition and someone had decided that it would make more sense for them to come to Madison and stay here the night before, rather than just going to Chicago (which would be a lot closer in RL), so I decided that they would say at my house the night before setting off for Chicago. I think there might have been more to the dream, but that's all I remember of it now.


Anyone is free to analyse these in any way they see fit!

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Orominuialwen

Or Encyclopedia Brown?

Now that's just plain scary. Did Encyclopedia grow up to be bad?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Orominuialwen

I had a terrible BD dream last night. In my dream, I logged on to the 'Downs and the background, instead of being black, was a sort of swirly dark blue and green. There was a big notice on the forum's main page saying that the 'Downs was permanently closed and would never reopen. I remember crying a lot in the dream. The eerie thing is that when I woke up, I had tears in my eyes and all over my face. The dream must have gotten to me so much that I actually cried while I was asleep. It was probably the second saddest dream I've ever had, after the dream I had where my brother died.

This needs no interpretation. I think I'd cry too.

Originally Posted by Orom

A few weeks ago, I dreamt that I got a text message from LMP. I was in a parking lot somewhere when it came, and I remember wondering how he had gotten my phone number. The message turned out to just be notifying me that LMP had PMed me.

You secretly wanted to hear from me.

Originally Posted by Orom

I had this last dream several months ago. In it, Kitanna and Firefoot had decided to join my robotics team. It was right before we were supposed to leave for Chicago for our competition and someone had decided that it would make more sense for them to come to Madison and stay here the night before, rather than just going to Chicago (which would be a lot closer in RL), so I decided that they would say at my house the night before setting off for Chicago. I think there might have been more to the dream, but that's all I remember of it now.

I'm not sure what robotics means compared to anything else; you'd have to tell me more about it. I don't know how your Downs relationship with Kit & FF differs (or not) from others', but this seems pretty straightforward to me too: you wanted to connect with these two - - - bring them right into your own house - - - which in dreams is akin to bringing someone right inside yourself.

[littlemanpoet]

Man, I had this all typed up then forgot to save it when I decided not to post it until getting permission. Maybe I can recall it all....

Originally Posted by Celuien

I was back in the high school I attended in 11th grade. BW and SpM were two of the teachers. (They weren't fighting.) I got sent by one of them (I forget which) to welcome guests to the school, who turned out to be Bethberry and Mithalwen. We went to the auditorium - inexplicably connected to the kitchen of a house I lived in 10 years ago that's actually a good 3000 miles from the HS - and listened to them give a lecture. Which I couldn't hear, and when I could hear it, I couldn't understand because it was in an unidentifiable foreign language. Other Downers (sorry, I can't remember who), were also in the audience and looked very intent on listening. At the end, everyone cheered.

high school: formative and educational
BW & SPM: authority figures
welcoming: you represent education
Bethberry & Mithalwen: familiar & honored pair
auditorium connected to kitchen: educational connected to nourishing
lecture: (do you remember who the lecturer was? A BDer?) educational again
can't hear & can't understand language: Whoa! pretty obvious.
Other Downers hearing & understanding: also obvious
cheering: agreement and acceptance

Rather sad. Here's a place with all kinds of potential and you're even a model student there (sent to welcome). Educational and nourishing but stuff is being tuaght that you can't hear most of, and when you can, it's in a language you don't know. Missing out on something really worthwhile. Reminds me of the "missing categories in the mind" theory of knowledge: There are some Barrowdowns - perhaps Tolkienian - things that your dream-self is missing out on. Deep dream.

Wow. That was rather serious.

I also had a dream that various moderators PMed me for being off topic and a general nuisance on the forums. I was threatened with being banned if I didn't behave myself.

Easy: fear of not pleasing others

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Do you remember who the lecturer was? A BDer?

I think it was either Bethberry or Mith. They disappeared on the way to the auditorium.

Interesting. Education is a big, big thing in my family.

Maybe my subconscious is telling me to post on the Books forum more often. When I first joined, I was there frequently. Now I'm slacking outside of Werewolf and RPs.

[Bêthberry]

I had the most bizarre dream the other night.

Mithalwen and I were discussing Jane Austen and Anthony Trollope heroines and trying to decide which one would make a good Arwen, Galadriel, etc. We bogged down over agreement on whether Miss Bates would make a good Ioreth. In fact, things got so heated that, erm, *cough*, a mud wrestling exchange broke out. At the loud and boisterous sounds of BDers hooting and hollaring their raucous cheering for various sides, I woke up!

Even more bizarre, when I checked out this thread, I find Celuien's dream:

Originally Posted by Celuien

Here's a weird dream...

I was back in the high school I attended in 11th grade. BW and SpM were two of the teachers. (They weren't fighting. ) I got sent by one of them (I forget which) to welcome guests to the school, who turned out to be Bethberry and Mithalwen. We went to the auditorium - inexplicably connected to the kitchen of a house I lived in 10 years ago that's actually a good 3000 miles from the HS - and listened to them give a lecture. Which I couldn't hear, and when I could hear it, I couldn't understand because it was in an unidentifiable foreign language. Other Downers (sorry, I can't remember who), were also in the audience and looked very intent on listening. At the end, everyone cheered.

Some kind of elven osanwe?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

a mud wrestling exchange broke out.

Even more bizarre, when I checked out this thread, I find Celuien's dream:...

Some kind of elven osanwe?

Well. Celuien? Are you sure it was a lecture and not a mudwrestling match?

Bethberry: did you enjoy it?

[Thinlómien]

It seems BD dreams really haunt me...

I had a dream that there was a huge larp (live action role playing game) set in the middle ages and a lot of 'downers were playing in it. I played a middle-aged widowed noblewoman and I had a black gown. Lhuna was playing my daughter and she had similar gown to mine, but it was the same colour as her avvie's background. (Sorry Mith for stealing your child. ) I remeber that Fea was a widowed noblewoman too, but she was young. And Ang was a monk and morm was a common guardsman. Make of that what you will...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Dear Dr. Dream,

I never dream about the Downs! What do you think that means?

Dreamless in Seattle

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Estelyn

Dear Dr. Dream,

I never dream about the Downs! What do you think that means?

Dreamless in Seattle

I think I can take this one. Dreams use common elements in our everyday lives as representations for subconcious element. (Ie, Nilp represents Chaos, Spm represents my dad, etc....) The fact that you have not dreamed of any downers makes it clear that you do not equate any downers with elements in your evryday life. You haven't yet become wholly involved in the Downs. You should stop with your silly "life" and join us completely.

[Kath]

Or, to take the opposing view, it means that Esty's conscious mind is so integrated into the Downs that it remains here even while she sleeps. The subconscious mind is free from the sites influence at this time, therefore doesn't dream of it.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I think I can take this one. Dreams use common elements in our everyday lives as representations for subconcious element. (Ie, Nilp represents Chaos, Spm represents my dad, etc....) The fact that you have not dreamed of any downers makes it clear that you do not equate any downers with elements in your evryday life. You haven't yet become wholly involved in the Downs. You should stop with your silly "life" and join us completely.

Wow, that actually makes perfect sense.

No really, as far as my dream of Oddwen, I can definitely think of people who treat me like that. Not that Oddwen treated me badly... in my dream I mean... oh, you know what I mean. Anyway, I've never thought of 'equating' people on the 'Downs with people in real life, but maybe I should look into it more.