Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf

[Roa_Aoife]

I'm still worried about you, Roa. Your track record is the best of any of us, you've either attacked, or been attacked by, wolves in the most ostentatious fashion, so that no-one could possibly suspect you.... you see what I mean?

I see exactly what you mean, and it makes me wonder if it's supposed to be that way. Frankly, after the whole Nogrod lynching, I expected to killed. The fact that I live makes me a tad nervous. I think my lorebooks tell me of a time a wolf bearing my name did something similar to a ranger by the name of Zali. It would be quite a kick to see my old trick pulled back on me. I feel so used.

Though I didn't realize my attack on Nogrod was ostentatious...

[Diamond18]

Actually, if you want to know who worries me a bit, it's Lalaith. Why? Because I'd want her if I was the Evil Wizard. I want to analyze her when I have time later tonight.

What do you all think about when Valier was made a wolf? Do you think she was an original or turned? I think Nilp had her as turned on Night 4, didn't he? But this isn't fact. I think it's possible she was an original. She did, after all, vote Loki. Yes, yes, I'm hammering that poor old horse again. If anyone is inclined to listen to me, I want to point out that my early vote for Loki was mostly intended as an expression of displeasure, and I was somewhat surprised (though not shocked) that so many people followd my lead and killed him. So that's why I look to that list as suspicious -- the ol' bandwaggoning trick.

[Roa_Aoife]

Valier's attack on Roa seems to me like the sort of thing an EW-Roa would tell her to do. So Roa is by no means cleared in my mind.

Actually, if I were the EW, I would have created a wolf on wolf scenario- if one gets lynched then the other looks good, no matter what. Naturally, that doesn't make me look much better...

Beside, Valier nearly did get me lynched yesterday, something that I would never want to risk if I were the EW. I like risks, but not risks that draw specific attention onto me when I'm trying to hide.

Edit: Seriously, no one posts for twenty minutes, and just as I post someone else does. This is a conspiracy, I tell you!

[Roa_Aoife]

What do you all think about when Valier was made a wolf? Do you think she was an original or turned? I think Nilp had her as turned on Night 4, didn't he? But this isn't fact.

Her change in behavior makes it look like she was turned Night 3. That's just a theory though.

I think it's possible she was an original. She did, after all, vote Loki.

Eight people voted Loki, not all of them could have been wolves at the time.

If anyone is inclined to listen to me, I want to point out that my early vote for Loki was mostly intended as an expression of displeasure, and I was somewhat surprised (though not shocked) that so many people followd my lead and killed him.

Now now, voting for someone just because you don't like them is never a really good reason. In fact, it's one of the worst reasons givable. But then, did anyone give actually good reasons for lynching Loki?

[Lalaith]

Still here...just about...
Why yes Diamond, I would have thought he would want me.
But he doesn't. *sniff* Mind you, I'd have thought he'd want you, too, even more.

Oh and Valier wouldn't be a Night Four wolf, she was under too much suspicion on Day Three. I think she's a Night Three, or maybe Night Two.

[Diamond18]

I may be counting my nights wrong, Lal. And as for the EW wanting me, the phantom is the only person who wants me. I mean... *cough* the only person I remember saying he'd want me as a wolf. Oh wait, no, SpM said I'd be a likely wolf pick, as well. Eomer said it best, I thought, about me being a bad wolf pick.

Roa, you just refuse to understand. When I quoted LMP's rules about civility to Loki his response boiled down to "I don't care, I'll do whatever I want." I didn't think we needed that kind of behavior. This wasn't "I don't like Loki so I'll kill him." It's "It's early Day 1 and I have no definite wolf candidate, so instead of throwing away my vote completely, I'll vote for the one person who I think is Trouble with a capital T."

And I've said all this a thousand different ways, but you apparently just don't care to understand my viewpoint. So. I can't think of another way to say it. *shrug*

And of course all 8 could not be wolves. But that's why a wolf or two would find it easy to hide in such a bandwagon.

[mormegil]

Well I want to reiterate two things I've said in the past. Everybody make sure to 'wake up' so you don't miss the summons to be a seer (Read: Hit the Refresh button on occasion).

Valier seems to have been the wolf convert on the 3rd night as I fully suspected and cued in on her strange behavior. I'm glad to see her lynched thought essentially another night was wasted due to a lack of a seer. We have two chances as night of finding the EW and we are only using one consistently.

Gurthang any idea how long until you produce your 'list of doom'?

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Gurthang any idea how long until you produce your 'list of doom'?

I don't know. I would like to get a response from my Seer and my Hunter. Is there anyone who needs to vote extremely early?

I also want to know what people think about Azaelia. Her distinct non-list vote could be one of two things.

1. She's an innocent who really didn't suspect anyone on the list.

2. She's a wolf/EW hoping we'll think the above.

I don't know how many times yesterday people said that they thought Diamond and Roa were innocent because they didn't agree with the plan. Azaelia might have taken that as a green light that that would make her appear innocent.