Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 05-15-2006, 02:59 PM

I just love this unanimosity between the villagers... You really seem to have made up your minds now, haven't you?

I can't blame you. This has been such a jungle of opinions, that making a clear and considered argument has just been a nightmare. So it's very easy to bandwagon on one who has taken the lead in the tally. You can always say tomorrow, that you were just having the same suspicions that every other one had. So nice to cover oneself in the mass-opinion. And especially for the wolves... quite handy, as there will be 10 people or more to look - and so the confusion goes on and the EW & her/his wolves grin ever more widely.

Sorry people: use your own minds for a change?

EDIT: X-posted with Cailin

Nogrod · 05-15-2006, 03:07 PM

Sorry Roa, I'm doing this again. But I really want to see, if I should still try to fight for myself - or try to help you a bit before I go.

So:
Nogrod 8
Oddwen 2
Lalaith 2
Valier, Roa, Fea 1

16 votes given... from 28?

We still have time to settle this right.

EDIT: X-posted with Valier & removed the similar tally out

Lalaith · 05-15-2006, 03:10 PM

I need to go now, and I'm not sure what to do. The Nogrod bandwaggon is rolling, and as someone with two votes I suppose it would be canniest for me to join it, but I'm just not convinced. The only thing that feels different about him to me, is that he didn't flood-post on the first day, and in a village this size, I'm quite grateful...

As I said before, I'm going to have to try to find wolves more by instinct, which I don't really like doing. Two players which I have felt uncomfortable about are Gurthang and Celuien. Neither have garnered any votes so far, however, so it would be a wasted vote to go for either of them. I think retaliatory voting is naff, but I know I'm innocent and I think Nogrod is quite probably innocent, so the only option is
++ODDWEN
who I think is living up to the first part of her name and is more likely to be a wolf than Nogrod.

Nogrod · 05-15-2006, 03:31 PM

Nogrod 8
Oddwen 4
Lalaith 2
Valier, Roa, Fea 1

18 votes given... from 28?

Valier: your list misses Firefoot...

EDIT: X-posted with Firefoot

Valier · 05-15-2006, 03:35 PM

Still left to vote...

Glirdan
Valier
Lhuna
Alcarillo
Azaelia
Naria
Jenny
Eonwe
Gurthang
Firefoot

Sorry bout that! I thought I was missing someone....Ok well I really don't think the baddie is Nogrod, and Oddwen's vote was weird, but enough to lynch her?...Lalaith has somewhat stood out to me, but not much and none of the others seem suspisous to me yet....I think there are definately at least two wolves hiding amongst the Nogrod voters and the placement of Kitanna and Eomer's votes are a good spot to put them for a wolf....I don't know and time is running out...

Firefoot · 05-15-2006, 03:42 PM

Not very many of those people seem to be around, either. Some of them may show up, I suppose. But this is a quandary: the only person besides Nogrod that really stands a chance of being lynched toDay is Oddwen, and I don't really think she's all that suspicious. Looks like a lose-lose situation to me.

Unless you're completely blind-siding me, Nogrod, and I really hope you aren't.

x-posting...

Valier · 05-15-2006, 03:47 PM

Alright I will vote..but I will say if the two candidates tomorrow don't seem suspisious to me I will vote with my gut.

++Oddwen

Only because she is the most suspisious out of the lynchee's today not by much mind you....

Nogrod · 05-15-2006, 03:48 PM

Nogrod 11
Oddwen 6

You have 10 minutes to change this... enough votes still.

EDIT: Took ALcarillo vote in.

Tomorrow. Be ready to open this bandwagon. You will have some pretty evil guys in it...

Firefoot · 05-15-2006, 03:52 PM

If Oddwen were a wolf, why would she refuse to vote? Sorry, but Oddwen falls into the same category as Nogrod... if she is a wolf, she acted stupidly.

Well, there doesn't seem to be a lot of hope of anyone but Nogrod getting lynched right now (and with the timezone factor, Lhuna for sure won't be voting), but for what it's worth I'm going to vote for someone I really do think might be guilty:

++Roa

Valier – 1 (Nilp 1)
Lalaith – 2 (Celuien 2, Oddwen 3)
Nogrod – 11 (Diamond 4, Thinlomien 7, Roa 8, Morm 9, Kath 11, Caran 12, Kitanna 15, Eomer 14, Gurthang 19, Azaelia 21, Alcarillo 23)
Roa – 2 (Fea 5, Firefoot 24)
Fea – 1 (Sleepy 6)
Oddwen – 6 (Spawn 10, Cailin 16, Lalaith 17, Nogrod 18, Naria 20, Valier 22)
Nilp – 1 (phantom 13)

Nogrod · 05-15-2006, 03:37 PM

Even though Roa will jump on this, I'll still say this once - as it might be, that enough of the last voters won't show around. So it's me or Oddwen now (or very unlikely someone else). Those last voters choose it.

EW would not pick loud people to begin with. There's much more higher probability for them being lynched in the first days. The EW wants numbers now. But later on s/he will surely adjust the picking up process. Be watchful of those who have been very trusted in the first days.

Naria · 05-15-2006, 03:40 PM

I will vote for

++Oddwen

Basically because she absolutely refused to vote yesterDay. It wasn't like there was a RL excuse, she just didn't feel like voting(must be nice to have that luxury)!

Then toDay she gets on and votes without reason, yet she claims that she does have one, but doesn't share it with us.....hmmmm. I don't like it when people do this kind of thing. I find it really annoying and unhelpful to us all.

05-15-2006, 02:59 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I just love this unanimosity between the villagers... You really seem to have made up your minds now, haven't you? I can't blame you. This has been such a jungle of opinions, that making a clear and considered argument has just been a nightmare. So it's very easy to bandwagon on one who has taken the lead in the tally. You can always say tomorrow, that you were just having the same suspicions that every other one had. So nice to cover oneself in the mass-opinion. And especially for the wolves... quite handy, as there will be 10 people or more to look - and so the confusion goes on and the EW & her/his wolves grin ever more widely. Sorry people: use your own minds for a change? EDIT: X-posted with Cailin __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-15-2006, 03:07 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Sorry Roa, I'm doing this again. But I really want to see, if I should still try to fight for myself - or try to help you a bit before I go. So: Nogrod 8 Oddwen 2 Lalaith 2 Valier, Roa, Fea 1 16 votes given... from 28? We still have time to settle this right. EDIT: X-posted with Valier & removed the similar tally out __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-15-2006, 03:10 PM	#3
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I need to go now, and I'm not sure what to do. The Nogrod bandwaggon is rolling, and as someone with two votes I suppose it would be canniest for me to join it, but I'm just not convinced. The only thing that feels different about him to me, is that he didn't flood-post on the first day, and in a village this size, I'm quite grateful... As I said before, I'm going to have to try to find wolves more by instinct, which I don't really like doing. Two players which I have felt uncomfortable about are Gurthang and Celuien. Neither have garnered any votes so far, however, so it would be a wasted vote to go for either of them. I think retaliatory voting is naff, but I know I'm innocent and I think Nogrod is quite probably innocent, so the only option is ++ODDWEN who I think is living up to the first part of her name and is more likely to be a wolf than Nogrod. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling Last edited by Lalaith; 05-15-2006 at 03:11 PM. Reason: putting Oddwen's name on a seperate line

05-15-2006, 03:31 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Nogrod 8 Oddwen 4 Lalaith 2 Valier, Roa, Fea 1 18 votes given... from 28? Valier: your list misses Firefoot... EDIT: X-posted with Firefoot __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-15-2006, 03:35 PM	#5
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	Still left to vote... Glirdan Valier Lhuna Alcarillo Azaelia Naria Jenny Eonwe Gurthang Firefoot Sorry bout that! I thought I was missing someone....Ok well I really don't think the baddie is Nogrod, and Oddwen's vote was weird, but enough to lynch her?...Lalaith has somewhat stood out to me, but not much and none of the others seem suspisous to me yet....I think there are definately at least two wolves hiding amongst the Nogrod voters and the placement of Kitanna and Eomer's votes are a good spot to put them for a wolf....I don't know and time is running out... __________________ grand return?........

05-15-2006, 03:42 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Not very many of those people seem to be around, either. Some of them may show up, I suppose. But this is a quandary: the only person besides Nogrod that really stands a chance of being lynched toDay is Oddwen, and I don't really think she's all that suspicious. Looks like a lose-lose situation to me. Unless you're completely blind-siding me, Nogrod, and I really hope you aren't. x-posting...

05-15-2006, 03:47 PM	#7
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	Alright I will vote..but I will say if the two candidates tomorrow don't seem suspisious to me I will vote with my gut. ++Oddwen Only because she is the most suspisious out of the lynchee's today not by much mind you.... __________________ grand return?........

05-15-2006, 03:48 PM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Nogrod 11 Oddwen 6 You have 10 minutes to change this... enough votes still. EDIT: Took ALcarillo vote in. Tomorrow. Be ready to open this bandwagon. You will have some pretty evil guys in it... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-15-2006, 03:52 PM	#9
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	If Oddwen were a wolf, why would she refuse to vote? Sorry, but Oddwen falls into the same category as Nogrod... if she is a wolf, she acted stupidly. Well, there doesn't seem to be a lot of hope of anyone but Nogrod getting lynched right now (and with the timezone factor, Lhuna for sure won't be voting), but for what it's worth I'm going to vote for someone I really do think might be guilty: ++Roa Valier – 1 (Nilp 1) Lalaith – 2 (Celuien 2, Oddwen 3) Nogrod – 11 (Diamond 4, Thinlomien 7, Roa 8, Morm 9, Kath 11, Caran 12, Kitanna 15, Eomer 14, Gurthang 19, Azaelia 21, Alcarillo 23) Roa – 2 (Fea 5, Firefoot 24) Fea – 1 (Sleepy 6) Oddwen – 6 (Spawn 10, Cailin 16, Lalaith 17, Nogrod 18, Naria 20, Valier 22) Nilp – 1 (phantom 13)

05-15-2006, 03:37 PM	#10
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Even though Roa will jump on this, I'll still say this once - as it might be, that enough of the last voters won't show around. So it's me or Oddwen now (or very unlikely someone else). Those last voters choose it. EW would not pick loud people to begin with. There's much more higher probability for them being lynched in the first days. The EW wants numbers now. But later on s/he will surely adjust the picking up process. Be watchful of those who have been very trusted in the first days. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-15-2006, 03:40 PM	#11
Naria Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 500	I will vote for ++Oddwen Basically because she absolutely refused to vote yesterDay. It wasn't like there was a RL excuse, she just didn't feel like voting(must be nice to have that luxury)! Then toDay she gets on and votes without reason, yet she claims that she does have one, but doesn't share it with us.....hmmmm. I don't like it when people do this kind of thing. I find it really annoying and unhelpful to us all.