DoV/RotS: the outline and editing discussions

[Findegil]

Nice. The Footnote is as I wanted it.

DoV-UM-02.1 Agreed.

Anything else?

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Findegil

[Maédhros]

I agree about Sarmo (actually, I could have sworn we discussed this before, but I could not find any such thread). It seems fairly clear to me that Sarmo is the later name - and even if it was followed by a question mark, it indicates that "Mahtan" had been rejected (or forgotten, which I suppose amounts to the same thing).

Wow, I didn't think that you would agree with that. Excellent.

I also have no problem with the footnote.

Wow, does that mean that we have no issues remaining in this chapter?

I have now read the whole chapter that Findegil sent me and the additions from The Theft of Melko from the Book of Lost Tales are great. I have only found little things such as the missing dieresis of Aule, Ungoliant, and the replacement of Maeðros in a few instances.

[Findegil]

Seems we have done that quiet in a rush.

I will look for these "Scanos" as I name them (in comparision to typos). To aviod such failures as a missing replacment in future I have collected all the general changes agreed upon so far in on single thread. I will cintinue to add general changes as we go on with the editing.

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Findegil

[gondowe]

I know you want to revise this chapter but before I forgot this, I want to point here a possible addition, perhaps like this:

Her father, {Mahtan}[Sarmo], <SF [who] was most widely known as Urundil 'copper-lover' >, was a great smith, and among those of the Noldor most dear to the heart of Aulë, <SF for he was an Aulendur and entered into {Aulë’s} [the Vala’s] service>. <SF He usually wore a band of copper about his head. His hair was not as dark or black as was that of most of the Ñoldor, but brown, and had glints of coppery-red in it. ><SF marginal note VT 41, And had beard, for althougth Elves did not have beards until they entered their third cycle of life. {Nerdanel's father}[This] was excepcional, {being}[for he was] only early in his second.> Of {Mahtan}[Sarmo] Nerdanel learned much of crafts that women of the Noldor seldom used: the making of things of metal and stone.

You can redact it better.

Greetings

[Findegil]

This is to be considered, since I do not see any other place for it. But is this information worth the interuption of the text?

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Findegil

[Findegil]

Locking into this again I found a better place for the information about Sarmo's beard:
Chapter 5 Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië:

Nelyafinwë /or shorter/ Nelyo /meaned /‘Finwë third’ in succession[footnote: his grandfather was Finwë, and his father Kurufinwë, first named Finwë also]. /His mother name was/ Maitimo 'well-shaped one': he was of beautiful bodily form. But he, and the youngest, inherited the rare red-brown hair of Nerdanel's kin, Her father had the epessë of rusco 'fox'. So Maitimo had as an epessë given by his brothers and other kin Russandol 'copper-top'.>< Nerdanel's father was an {'Aulendil' [> }'Aulendur'{]}[footnote: 'Servant of Aulë': sc. one who was devoted to that Vala. It was applied especially to those persons, or families, among the Ñoldor who actually entered Aulë's service, and who in return received instruction from him.], and became a great smith. He loved copper, and set it above gold. His name was {[space; pencilled later }Sarmo{?]}, but he was most widely known as Urundil 'copper-lover'. <SF marginal note VT 41, Nerdanel's father was excepcional, being only early in his second cycle of life and having a beard.>< SF marginal note VT 41 Elves did not have beards until they entered their third cycle of life.> He usually wore a band of copper about his head. His hair was not as dark or black as was that of most of the Ñoldor, but brown, and had glints of coppery-red in it. Of Nerdanel's seven children the oldest, and the twins (a very rare thing among the Eldar) had hair of this kind. The eldest also wore a copper circlet.> </The Sindarin form /{Maedros combines elements}[Maedron/ is a translation/ of Nelyafinwe's mother name: Maiti- (Commen Eldarin magiti- shapely, Sindarin maed){ and of the epesse russandol (C.E. russā, S. ross)}.>

Here in list of names and discriptions of Elves it does not interupt a narative. To avoid repeatiton i scipt DoV-UM-02.5 ( the addition of Sarmon being called Urundil).

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Findegil