The Ring of Saruman?

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

In return, it is only fair that you provide your reference for the contention that Saruman "produced" Orcs.

Saucey, you have just given me a horrific mental image that I shall likely never shake, and shall have to revile for the rest of my natural life...

After all, men and elves can interbreed, right? So whether orks come from Elves or Men (as Tolkien later theorized they might have) they can interbreed with Men or Elves... and the Istari were sent to Middle-Earth in the form of Men- fully functional, we are made to assume. Therefore, when you say that Saruman "produced" the Orks, I am for some reason left with the mental image of Saruman SIRING the orks.

Ew! Ew! EWW!!

Slightly offtopic, yes... but Ew! And if I have to suffer it, so do you!