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Old 05-07-2006, 02:32 PM   #11
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Where I have a problem is with your apparent contention that Bilbo's display of compassion in regard to Gollum is a sign of Christian inspired revision
That is why I said that taken by itself, it is not enough.

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or that the new 'depth' in later drafts is either.
You misunderstood me.
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it is logical to say that this new deepening is NOT "consciously Christian in the revision", but what Tolkien saw it to be: a more serious and adult story than The Hobbit had been.
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But these seem the most 'blatant' examples.
I intend to bring forth the consciously Christian subtext.

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Focus on self-sacrifice, compassion, humility, mercy, are hardly uniquely 'Christian'. Elbereth could well be an 'image' of the Virgin Mary, but she could also be an 'image' of Isis or Don.
However, Tolkien was not a follower of Isis or Don; he was Christian. I'm basing my research on his contention that his Christian understanding of reality pervades the subtext of LotR.
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