Them Dwarven folk. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Selmo · 05-02-2006, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

The dwarves seemed to me like a declining race, and I never read where dwarves married someone from another race. Afterall, that is sort of a scary thought I mean Gimli, marrying, and having children with Galadriel...or Arwen?

Elves and Men could produce offspring together, although this was extremely rare.
This was because they were both created by Eru Iluvatar (God) to the same physical pattern. Dwarves were created independently by Aule, one of the Valar. Aule could not copy Eru's creations exactly so Dwarven DNA was significantly different from that of Men and Elves, too diferent for them to mate succesfully.

Hobbits, as a sub-group of Mankind, could, in theory, inter-breed with Men and Elves. A scary thought, though not as scary as Dwarves and Elves.
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**The Saucepan Man** · 05-02-2006, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Selmo

Hobbits, as a sub-group of Mankind, could, in theory, inter-breed with Men and Elves.

Actually, it's not so far fetched. The descendants of a liason long ago between a Stoor lad and a Noldorin maid may still be seen in many gardens today ...

Tuor of Gondolin · 05-02-2006, 09:11 AM

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Actually, it's not so far fetched. The descendants of a liason long ago between a Stoor lad and a Noldorin maid may still be seen in many gardens today ...

Aghhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Not to mention the sad looks on some elf girls' faces
when the Fellowship left Rivendell (as observed
on the dvd by Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan).

Oh, and as to above dwarf/elf disagreements. even though
I believe the petty dwarves were exiled from dwarfdom
their initially being hunted by elves (until they found the
petty dwarves weren't animals) could have fueled the
dwarf/elf enmity.

Thinlómien · 05-02-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuor of Gondolin

Oh, and as to above dwarf/elf disagreements. even though
I believe the petty dwarves were exiled from dwarfdom
their initially being hunted by elves (until they found the
petty dwarves weren't animals) could have fueled the
dwarf/elf enmity.

I disagree. I don't think the dwarves cared about petty-dwarves so much. Maybe they didn't even notice them being persecuted.

goldfinger · 05-03-2006, 08:47 AM

I think I remember reading somewhere that when the Dwarves saw what the Elve were doing to the Petty-Dwarves, they took the in and they no longer were exiles. Considering the fact they were Dwarves too, and we all know how proud they were of their race. It makes logical sense.

Boromir88 · 05-03-2006, 12:53 PM

Wow it's amazing, this is the 2nd or 3rd thread I ever did (so it's over 2 years old) and it's gotten more responses now than when I first started it.

I imagine the dwarves slaying the great Thingol probably put a big damper on their relationship. But again, it wasn't like all elves hated all dwarves. The Elves of Rivendell and the Noldor Elves seemed to always get along with the dwarves.

Groin Redbeard · 01-03-2008, 09:47 PM

Wonderful thread Boromir! This is definatly worth reviving.

05-03-2006, 12:53 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Wow it's amazing, this is the 2nd or 3rd thread I ever did (so it's over 2 years old) and it's gotten more responses now than when I first started it. I imagine the dwarves slaying the great Thingol probably put a big damper on their relationship. But again, it wasn't like all elves hated all dwarves. The Elves of Rivendell and the Noldor Elves seemed to always get along with the dwarves. __________________ Fenris Penguin

01-03-2008, 09:47 PM	#7
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Wonderful thread Boromir! This is definatly worth reviving. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

05-03-2006, 08:47 AM	#5
goldfinger Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KC, Missouri Posts: 60	I think I remember reading somewhere that when the Dwarves saw what the Elve were doing to the Petty-Dwarves, they took the in and they no longer were exiles. Considering the fact they were Dwarves too, and we all know how proud they were of their race. It makes logical sense.