WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night

[Nogrod]

Or Wilva is Lote. Her new identity she just forgot?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Or Wilva is Lote. Her new identity she just forgot?

Nah, Wilwa and Lote are sisters... I've talked to both on MSN! ^_^

[Nogrod]

The votes so far (it was hard enough to track them so far, so it might be easier to continue with this - on the top of the page as well... - oh boy you talk, like I do... ):

1. Spawn --> Morm (Morm1)
2. Ang --> Morm (Morm2)
3. Mith --> Roa (Morm 2, Roa1)
4. Cailin --> Morm (Morm 3, Roa1)
5. Sleepy --> Kath (Morm3, Roa1, Kath1)

[Nogrod]

And just a quick add-on. The two first votes on Morm were made, before he had a chance to defend himself. I just hope Morm would appear soon, as I'm inclined to vote for him too in the hour (or then Roa, or Lalaith, or Jenny, or...).

Speak up people - and not only on Wilwa's amazing appearance... (funny thing - and might be opening nice discussions later, but really)

[Lote22]

Sorry for that confusion. Me and my sister (Wilwa) share a computer. I forgot to log out of her account before I posted, I didn't realise I was logged in as her.

Sorry bout that.

[Kath]

It's ok Lote, we figured it out! But you ought to know that Valesse isn't playing, Valier is.

Oh please let me have that the right way round!

[Nogrod]

No problem, Lote. I have to share the computer with Lommy from time to time, and it's always a thing to remember, logging out... So we just take Wilwa's post as yours.

[Nogrod]

But Lote!

Please talk more!

If you are innocent, we need your views and points on the discussion!

[Lote22]

Oh yeah I came on to vote.

I decided to vote for Roa since she's the one I'm most suspicious of.

++Roa

Corssposted with Kath and Nogrod: Sorry bout the mix up with Valesse and Valier, I'll change that. I will try to post more Nogrod.

[Glirdan]

OCC-Here is my check in post. I had school and I couldn't get on. Did I not say before the game started that I wouldn't be posting as much?

Well, congratualtions to our Nightingale. Job well done!!

I must express a concern of mine which has arisen: Mith proclaiming that she is the Owl. I, however, do not believe this. I believe that she is probably a Duck or the Goose. I have my reasoning which I shall get to later, yet this will put me in a lot of danger. I shall return with my reasoning shortly.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I must express a concern of mine which has arisen: Mith proclaiming that she is the Owl. I, however, do not believe this. I believe that she is probably a Duck or the Goose. I have my reasoning which I shall get to later, yet this will put me in a lot of danger. I shall return with my reasoning shortly.

Quite possible. If a duck is faking as the owl then the only person who would know is the actual owl. I seriously doubt the duck would call any of its accomplices innocent but who knows? Most possibly they're hoping that they can draw the real owl out this way or that they get the real owl toNight. Though this is a very risky move to be taken at such a stage and mind you, I doubt they are in any way desperate.

However, maybe Mith is a crazy ordo? If she calls a duck innocent they wouldn't care and yet if she calls an innocent innocent what would they do but trust her? Same applies if Mith is the goose. I'm certain toNight's kill and (possibly) toDay's lynching will clear a bit up for us.

[Nogrod]

Well. This seems like my testament now...

I have to go to sleep, as it is coming 1 AM (my time here - and I truly remember the last day here).

I don't think I have been as helpful as I could have been, but anyways.

Just a few thoughts - not so much basing now on any "deep analysis", but overall appearances of things.

Glirdan is so quiet! He told, he would be off a lot, but this is just a little too much (no posts today, am I right?).

Sleepy seems to be in his not-whole-heartedly-in -kind of gamer attitude right now. Just stir him up, with whatever ways you come up with (bold accusations, or whatever), and he might be of great help - if innocent.

Elu I kind of hope, doesn't turn out today. It would be best to us all. In this, I'm inclined to think the same as Roa: one either plays or then not. A totally silent villager is just an asset to the ducks, and shifting the balance - and being a bad sport.

Lote, even though a newbie to whom I would give all the benefit of doubt, should start to speak for herself. Really, Lote! C'mon! We won't bite (just some of us might kill you the next day, but anyhow, that's what this game is all about - try it!)

Mith & Spm I'm quite convinced to be the one's they have been declared to be - at least Mith's revealment of my innocence was right... And if there is a foolery of a grand-kind, it will be revealed soon enough (there would at least one person in the village, that would be knowledgeable of that).

Kath & Cailin I do not know... They have both played under my radar, and thence could be dangerous (my hunches are always bad)

Lalaith goes to the same category, but is here separate from them, as I have taken some closer look on her. Very careful - almost too careful...

Spawn & Ang are riddles to me, for the time being. They have been intelligent and in all the senses, very helpful (although Spawn's analysis on Mith was probably a bit misguided - but then again, being a gifted and being a wolf/duck have some common elements - you are much more scared of your own life than as being an ordo).

This list leaves me with Morm, Valier, Roa and Jenny... (I'll just need a cigarette, before going into these people - and Roa: I know it's bad for my health, I truly know!)

EDIT: X-posted with Glirdy...

[Nogrod]

Glirdy!

I hope you really have something to say about this! It would change the situation, but think what you say. Someway, getting more people to be killed for the ducks would just nicely confuse them - and add to the possibilities of the nightingale, but just revealing stuff is not always intelligent... - or if revealing, you would need really to have something to say. Think about it!

PS: And you ducks: make of this what you will... This doesn't seem to help your choice of the victim for the next night (So far, well played Glirdy!) - and if we add, that Spm could be on your list too - then I think you have food for thought enough...

[mormegil]

Anguirel, I got Idleman from Mith's list and it's a man of leisure. I took from that to mean a man of wealth who doesn't work...just a quick lesson for you.

Mith I knew you weren't a Duck and I can see your need in coming out...knowing you as I do . Now if I survive the day, it seems unlikely, I implore you to trust me and not dream of me. It will avail you little. I am neither the goose nor a duck. I am a busy man trying to read an inordinate amount of posts and stay caught up all the while maintain my job.

SpM, while not a duck, still may be the goose and I will listen to what he says only with the utmost scepticism.

Anguirel--I just don't know about him. He could be the goose but might be a rather bold duck. Of course it's rather likely that he's an innocent that thinks too highly of himself and his theories.

My head is trying to process everything that has happened today so my suspicion list is not up to date but Jenny and Roa come to the top of it.

I would suggest that Mith either dream of Ang or Roa.

Again Mith, trust me, there is no need to waste your dream on me. Though as the current environment is anti-morm you may not even have the choice of dreaming of me. If I do die I'm not sure you should go after Ang or not. It would need to be decided if he would be bold enough to be so loud.

Regarding SpM, his elaborate scheme of the Hawk coming forward sounds pretty good on the surface and made some sense but I could see some subtleties that could be exploited by the Ducks. Hence, I still think he could be the goose. Too many gifteds would be revealed and sadly if the Hawk is known smart ducks can pick up on the nightingale. To spell out more clearly, being they know each other well enough generally once one is known it can be reverse traced to the partner because of how the two interacted. I believe a goose SpM would give credit to those ducks and help them this way. Also killing the Hawk early is always an advantage to the ducks. I don't like it. But I realize I'm not goose hunting but I feel the need to point this out.