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Elladan and Elrohir · 04-16-2006, 02:39 PM

Well, in the book Gandalf sees Treebeard walking in Fangorn and later apparently spies on him, Merry and Pippin, because he hasn't met them but somehow knows that they have met. He doesn't actually meet up with them until he comes to Isengard after it has fallen to the Ents. Gandalf seems to know more than one might expect, and less than one might think.

I thought the whole "let's go see the white wizard" thing in the first scene with Treebeard was a pretty dumb way of trying to build up suspense, if for no other reason than that Treebeard would never refer to Gandalf as "the white wizard."

Essex · 04-20-2006, 03:41 AM

Yes, it was a way of building up suspense, but to call it 'dumb' is going a bit far I think. I admit I didn't like it, mostly becasue it was different to the book.

PS - I think Treebeard DOES allude to spotting Gandalf in the forest later on in the book though doesn't he? Or am I just dreaming this up?

alatar · 04-20-2006, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Essex

PS - I think Treebeard DOES allude to spotting Gandalf in the forest later on in the book though doesn't he? Or am I just dreaming this up?

He does. Gandalf and/or Treebeard are so caught up in their personal mental machinations that they just keep on walking instead of stopping to catch up a bit.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-26-2006, 03:11 PM

A bit late, but you know I'm going to comment on Treebeard.

Spawn said most things I wanted to say. The whole rolling-of-eyes from Merry and Pippin was disrespectful. I get the feeling that this kind of behaviour from Merry and Pippin was encouraged so that kids would laugh with them and think they are cool. Yo! Don't be soooooo slow, Grandad! I don't like it.

I never imagined Treebeard speaking as slowly as this in the books. I saw him as fairly slow and precise and prone to wandering off into his own stories when others are slightly lost; but never that whole "My...eh....home..lies....deeeeeeeeep....in... .the forest, ja?" But fair enough, I can see why others would imagine him like that.

I just get the impression that Merry and Pippin are brat kids here.

04-16-2006, 02:39 PM	#1
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	Well, in the book Gandalf sees Treebeard walking in Fangorn and later apparently spies on him, Merry and Pippin, because he hasn't met them but somehow knows that they have met. He doesn't actually meet up with them until he comes to Isengard after it has fallen to the Ents. Gandalf seems to know more than one might expect, and less than one might think. I thought the whole "let's go see the white wizard" thing in the first scene with Treebeard was a pretty dumb way of trying to build up suspense, if for no other reason than that Treebeard would never refer to Gandalf as "the white wizard." __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

04-26-2006, 03:11 PM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	A bit late, but you know I'm going to comment on Treebeard. Spawn said most things I wanted to say. The whole rolling-of-eyes from Merry and Pippin was disrespectful. I get the feeling that this kind of behaviour from Merry and Pippin was encouraged so that kids would laugh with them and think they are cool. Yo! Don't be soooooo slow, Grandad! I don't like it. I never imagined Treebeard speaking as slowly as this in the books. I saw him as fairly slow and precise and prone to wandering off into his own stories when others are slightly lost; but never that whole "My...eh....home..lies....deeeeeeeeep....in... .the forest, ja?" But fair enough, I can see why others would imagine him like that. I just get the impression that Merry and Pippin are brat kids here. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-20-2006, 03:41 AM	#2
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Yes, it was a way of building up suspense, but to call it 'dumb' is going a bit far I think. I admit I didn't like it, mostly becasue it was different to the book. PS - I think Treebeard DOES allude to spotting Gandalf in the forest later on in the book though doesn't he? Or am I just dreaming this up?