**Comparing Narnia and LotR** - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Samwise · 03-27-2006, 05:00 PM

Personally, having read all 7 books, (though not in a long time) I thought Narnia was great as a movie.

I enjoyed it thouroughly.

Watching it, as I did LOTR, I found myself thinking that many things were just as I would have imagined them to be. Granted, they cut the end part a bit short because of time, but other than that I thought it was quite good.

edit: Thankfully, alatar, PJ did NOT.

Kuruharan · 03-27-2006, 05:35 PM

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Knowing what I know about PJ, having watched his take on LotR, I just shudder to think what he would have brought to LWW

Don't forget that prior to the battle, the Dufflepuds would have miraculously arrived to assist the Narnians and even out the numbers a little!!!

Of course, in order to highten the dramatic tension of this duffer ex machina, all the good creatures would have to be cut from the movie so that Peter and Edmund could face the Witch's army all by themselves.

The Beavers would have taken the children on a little side trip to Calormen so that they could...actually, we don't really know why.

Okay...I must stop before I get really carried away...

Ellewen · 03-27-2006, 06:43 PM

Few words, Like like niether better than the other... I think Narnia is less "dark" in more ways than one. LotR has cooler swordfights, and Narnia has cooler creatures... In my opinion at least...

alatar · 03-28-2006, 10:25 PM

Not sure how I forgot to add these:

After his resurrection, the new Aslan leans more on Peter, ever asking his advice and also hopes to glean information from the Witch's dwarf, and almost does get the deep magic information that he needs but at the last is thwarted as the dwarf meets an untimely end on a spikey lamp post.

The returned Aslan cowers when confronted by the Witch-Queen, and it's only the horns of the centaurs that save his mane.

Tuor in Gondolin · 03-29-2006, 11:48 AM

But you've forgotten PJ's having Peter being shoved
into the river by the wolves, drifting down unconscious
and being awakened by a unicorn!

(While some PJ changes were understandable, I
think he would have been better served staying, as was
frequently possible, more to the book. It would have
meant the movies standing up better in the long run,
as FOTR does more then the two other films).
And as I suspect the LWW will.

Parmawen · 04-13-2006, 11:56 PM

This is a similarity I found between the books actually, but it seems to fit in this thread.

In the Magician's Nephew (the first book of the Chronicles of Narnia) the world is created by Aslan singing it into being. I always thought that was incredibly creative: he sang as he thought of the trees, flowers, and people to live there. As well, in the Silmarillion, in the Ainulindalë part, the Ainur sing Arda into creation out of the void.

So I don't know if they both had the idea of singing of creation, or if they discovered it together, but I think it's a really neat similarity. Does anyone else know any myths involving singing to create?

davem · 04-14-2006, 02:08 AM

Not much time to reply now but certainly the Kalevala has a sung creation.

03-27-2006, 05:00 PM	#1
Samwise Faithful Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: #3 Bagshot Row, Petaluma, Ca Posts: 2,299	Personally, having read all 7 books, (though not in a long time) I thought Narnia was great as a movie. I enjoyed it thouroughly. Watching it, as I did LOTR, I found myself thinking that many things were just as I would have imagined them to be. Granted, they cut the end part a bit short because of time, but other than that I thought it was quite good. edit: Thankfully, alatar, PJ did NOT. __________________ Giving thanks unto the Father...In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins.~Colossians1:12a,14 * * * * * * * I am Samwise son of Hamfast, if by hoe or trowel I can get these weeds out of your garden, I will.You have my shears!;) Last edited by Samwise; 03-27-2006 at 05:04 PM. Reason: After reading the post above....

03-27-2006, 06:43 PM	#3
Ellewen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in the woods looking for a place to recharge my laptop's battery. Posts: 35	Few words, Like like niether better than the other... I think Narnia is less "dark" in more ways than one. LotR has cooler swordfights, and Narnia has cooler creatures... In my opinion at least... __________________ "Wait one moment and I'll get my bow and quiver... No wait I'll quiver first and get it over with." quivers - Robin Hood

03-28-2006, 10:25 PM	#4
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	More Not sure how I forgot to add these: After his resurrection, the new Aslan leans more on Peter, ever asking his advice and also hopes to glean information from the Witch's dwarf, and almost does get the deep magic information that he needs but at the last is thwarted as the dwarf meets an untimely end on a spikey lamp post. The returned Aslan cowers when confronted by the Witch-Queen, and it's only the horns of the centaurs that save his mane. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

03-29-2006, 11:48 AM	#5
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	But you've forgotten PJ's having Peter being shoved into the river by the wolves, drifting down unconscious and being awakened by a unicorn! (While some PJ changes were understandable, I think he would have been better served staying, as was frequently possible, more to the book. It would have meant the movies standing up better in the long run, as FOTR does more then the two other films). And as I suspect the LWW will. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

04-13-2006, 11:56 PM	#6
Parmawen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stuck in the center of Spooky Hollow... Posts: 75	This is a similarity I found between the books actually, but it seems to fit in this thread. In the Magician's Nephew (the first book of the Chronicles of Narnia) the world is created by Aslan singing it into being. I always thought that was incredibly creative: he sang as he thought of the trees, flowers, and people to live there. As well, in the Silmarillion, in the Ainulindalë part, the Ainur sing Arda into creation out of the void. So I don't know if they both had the idea of singing of creation, or if they discovered it together, but I think it's a really neat similarity. Does anyone else know any myths involving singing to create? __________________ I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew. Of wind I sang, I wind there came, and in the branches blew... -Galadriel

04-14-2006, 02:08 AM	#7
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Not much time to reply now but certainly the Kalevala has a sung creation. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."