Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIX: Ang Sagang Daga, bow.

[Garin]

Congratulations innocent villagers! (Including me) I did think the game was weighed a bit in favor of the villagers but it was a nice maiden voyage for the Lovers role. I wanted a werebear. Can you imagine?

Really... someday I'll get killed by somebody besides villagers.

I must apologize for the suicidal vote but I truly WAS overtaken by Nilp Fever. I was an ordinary Ordo fighting for my village and after The Guy's vote I just started typing and pressed the enter key. I swear that I am a logical person but also can be quite impulsive and emotional.

It was so heartwarming how some of the wolves were apologetic in either helping me get lynched or not preventing it. After that I wanted to scream Sam and Lhuna are wolves!! But you killed Garin.

Bastards.

Of course I was totally wrong about Glirdan and I also saw Littlemanpoet as a wolf until his necessary 'coming out.' Good job, m'boy. Glad to see you came back to WW.

Formendacil completely flew in under the radar .... WHICH, should have been my first clue. The fact that he was letting Gurthang take such a leadership role uncontested is, in retrospect, quite telling.

I'd say Gurthang is this game's MVP followed by LMP. Cailin also added a bunch to the game.

I have to agree with Spawn that Caranlondien was as fine a newcomer as I've ever seen.

I was impressed by the hardcore analysis displayed in the closing chapters of the game.

I would like to mention everyone and I probably will do so through rep points, some of you have already received them.

I must salute Nilp the Prophet because I really enjoyed my death scene, although I think it was partial revenge after insinuating he had an unsightly boil.

Anyways .... back to work

[the guy who be short]

I too must praise Nilp. Très bien fait, monsieur. My death seen had me in fits of laughter... shall the legacy of the tree-frogs ever fail?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Garin

Formendacil completely flew in under the radar .... WHICH, should have been my first clue. The fact that he was letting Gurthang take such a leadership role uncontested is, in retrospect, quite telling.

I'd say Gurthang is this game's MVP followed by LMP. Cailin also added a bunch to the game.

A bit of advice: if you don't like dying - innocent or guilty- don't contest a Known Innocent. If you do, you only come out looking guilty, so you'll be lynched anyway...

I have to say, I completely agree with Nilp about the overpowerful Seers. The Wolves already had one strike against them with the Lover in their midst. Two Seers just tipped the balance.

That said, the game could have been a Werewolf win- but for the Double-Lynchings. As I've said time and time and time again- I hate them. I really do. They tip the balance far too much to one side- to the village side in the case of having Known Innocents, and to the Werewolf side in the case of No Known Innocents.

Furthermore, to my way of thinking, they ruin the essential elements of bandwaggoning, scheming, and reckless debating that is the true fun of the game. They tend, by and large, to place power in the hands of select, village-guiding few.

So I think I may well hold to my wrathful promise of my rant-post and never play in another double-lynching game again. I really, really don't like them.

Now, to my own playing...

I think my problem is that I deliberately geared my game to the voting record. I consciously voted with the idea in mind of building myself a Good Reputation. The problem, though, is that such a reputation requires Ordos around at the end of the game to speak up on your behalf, and all of our Voting Record people had died off: LMP, Spawn, TGWBS... All that was left was the Gut Feeling people (for the most part), and here I was shot.

[Farael]

Quite definetly... sure I would have died during the night, but what a fun time!! If I had been smarter, I'd have taken down Kath and Formen rather than Kath and Lhuna.... of course, LMP Might have came out but if not I would have definetly gone with a bang.

I GAVE YOU A WOLF!!!! I thought you'd understand that I was not the cobbler but rather the lover and that I had no interest in a wolvish win. Formen was playing a flawless game so far and I wanted to see how he wiggled out of that one.... but he didn't have to do much effort.

Still, good game everyone!! Caranlondien, if I had known you were Aiwendil's sister I would have definetly made a case against you.... one has a reputation to keep, eh?

Being the lover was a lot of fun. We were doomed since day 1, but it was fun all the same... and I almost had you all thinking that Kath was the one they had dreamt about, eh? *evil laugh* then LMP showed up and just destroyed my crazy theory.

LMP you are too smart.... that's a good thing.

Congratulations to the village, Gurthang you were definetly the hero... But good game to everyone!!!

To steal from Garin
MVP: Gurthang (Great leadership, sailed to the win)
Firsts Runner Up: Formendacil (Doomed by the double-lynch, but if not he'd have won)
Second Runner Up: LMP (You'd get the MVP if it wasn't for the other two)

Honourable mention: Spawn and Lhuna (just 'cos they are cool )

And also, Nilp..... great game!!! a pleasure to play in your game.... too bad I didn't get to play the town's Nilp but there were too many already.

[Lalaith]

Bah, Form. You under-estimate us.
I, for one, am well aware of the vote-principle. I am also well aware of what kind of player you are, and that you are very capable of subverting that principle.

[Naria]

Great game everyone....definatley had alot of fun in this one!!

Farael you...you, ahhh I can't say it! You had me fooled.

I knew Form was a wolf from about Day three....don't ask me how, I just knew....but couldn't figure out how to put it into words. Great job Form!!

I still can't believe that I made it all the way to the end....and with double lynchings *phew* dodged a bullet there....

Just a clarification--I would have gladly been a wolf again even though I probably would have been killed anyway....since I'm sooooo suspicious and scary *tee hee hee*

Hats off to Gurthang for his end of the Day vigils.

Off to do some repping....way to go villagers!!

[Garin]

Posted by Formendacil:
A bit of advice: if you don't like dying - innocent or guilty- don't contest a Known Innocent. If you do, you only come out looking guilty, so you'll be lynched anyway...

Before Gurthang was declared innocent he was surely guiding the other innocents. I think your experience would have driven you to confront him if you were indeed innocent and thought he was manipulating the village.

From the very first I thought Anguirel and Gurthang to be innocent but I completely ignored YOU-- Form. Never a good thing.

If I had stuck around I would've launched a Farael, Glirthan, Lhuna attack ... in that order.

Methinks you guys were better off without me.

EDIT: Form you ARE the wolven MVP but I am still playing my ORDO role and thusly hate you. For some reason i never thought you were a wolf and the last day was just incredible to me. I will look back upon your posts as a tutorial.

[Cailín]

Aaah! I am so sorry I had to miss the final Day.

I'm very proud of all of you, villagers. I was sure it was Formendacil after last Night and I was very tempted to PM Gurthang about it when I found out I couldn't vote -how frustrated I was this morning-, but that would have been cheating. Besides, he had played excellent all game long and I was very glad to be able to rely on him.

Littlemanpoet, Spawn, you were wonderful Seers. I am quite honoured you chose to dream of me. Also well done SamwiseGamgee and Formendacil: if it weren't for double-lynching, you could probably have easily won the game. This game has proved double-lynches should be outlawed, I think.

Actually, I loved all of you this game. And Nilp... I was almost sad I was not killed because I didn't get a dead scene.

Eomer... see it wasn't me?

Reps will come later, I have too little time. Great game all. Happy I was along for the ride.

[the guy who be short]

Being the lover was a lot of fun. We were doomed since day 1, but it was fun all the same... and I almost had you all thinking that Kath was the one they had dreamt about, eh? *evil laugh* then LMP showed up and just destroyed my crazy theory.

Did LMP do that before me? I didn't notice. And I thought I was special.

That said, very well done, LMP. You stayed out of the spotlight for much of the game, until you were forced into the open. And honestly, the way you went after me just made me laugh! The guy who be furry indeed.

The Lovers: An interesting addition. I'd love to see them again. However, the gender issue makes it far too easy to hunt them out. Maybe if people feel queasy, we can change the name but have them same-sex too? Something like Shirriffs, but mutually dependent? Or blood-brothers. Or something.

[Garin]

Maybe if people feel queasy, we can change the name but have them same-sex too? Something like Shirriffs, but mutually dependent? Or blood-brothers. Or something.

Exactly TGBWS,

In the original discussion of the the LOVER SCENARIO someone stated that the possibility of a homosexual lover was necessarry but I saw support for that quickly dwindle.

Perhaps the best solution is yours... The Entwined.

Be it two brothers/sisters, two lovers, blood brothers, TWINS? ... someone who is entwined without the the necessity of sexual terminology.

Actually, I like the idea of twins.

They are known for their unseen connections, be it fraternal or maternal.

[Garin]

Do the wolves care to post some of the tastier dialogue during their night-talk?

I extend the same to our Seers...

[Farael]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

Did LMP do that before me? I didn't notice. And I thought I was special.

Oh, Guy, you were also a pain... but even after our little sparring, there was still SOME air in my hot-air baloon... LMP just completely deflated it. Sorry if I went after your neck, I didn't want to look too loverish if I happened to survive the day.

I still think your plan was misguided, Kath would have slipped through the cracks =P after Lhuna, Kath and I died I wanted to PM you and tell you to go ahead with it, but that wouldn't have been fair

[Kath]

I have copies of all the PM's up to the end of the Day Lhuna and I were killed. I can post those on here but I warn you now it's long.

After that you'll have to rely on Form and Samwise's memories.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Garin

Form you ARE the wolven MVP but I am still playing my ORDO role and thusly hate you. For some reason i never thought you were a wolf and the last day was just incredible to me. I will look back upon your posts as a tutorial.

Don't study it too hard...

Half the village that was left was calling me lupine at that point.

Still, it was a fun run. I really hoped to survive to the end- and win- but the double-lynchings killed that. My only hope was to be in the SECOND round of double-lynchings, and to hopefully mess up the vote, ala Cobbler, on the last day.

It didn't work...

[Formendacil]

By the way, I'd like to say that I had an awesome time with my Wolfpack: Kath, Samwise- even the traitor Lhuna. I've never talked so much by PM as a Wolf, day or night. After Kath and Lhuna's death, it dropped off sharply, since neither Samwise nor I were inclined to verbosity.