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Old 03-21-2006, 08:24 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by drigel
but it doesnt - is my point. ex: - the quote could also say ".. also can fry bacon"...
Useless argument. The fact remains that your quote doesn't represent an exclusive nature of the Three, since it includes all of them and yet Narya was not used for the purpose described. Narya augmented Gandalf's natural propensity for reaching individuals' hearts and motivating them. It's therefore logical to assume that when Vilya and Nenya were used for protecting a realm, they were merely complementing their masters' will to do so. Unless you'd like to postulate the theory that the piece you snipped was only referring to Vilya and Nenya, and that those two had the same power while Narya had a different purpose altogether. If that's your theory, I'd like a little meatier an argument to support it.

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I suppose this isn't the thread to discuss the nature of the three. It is a subject that has a lot of generalities and is open to different interpretations.
Seems as good a place as any.

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I would suggest that S could and would have a use for any of the three if he had obtained one.
If you're correct about the Three, the only use he could have found for them was to protect a realm from the decay of time. He didn't need anything to do that, as I've already said, since Sauron's world was a desolate and dead one anyway, and those things he created were already indestructible as long as the Ring existed, and it itself was all but indestructible. The Elven rings wouldn't have offered him anything, except that if he came into possession of one of them, the other two would be rendered useless since they could not be worn.

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Just like the Palantri, he didnt really need one, but it did come in handy - but, the Eye was already in play before he obtained one.
He didn't use the Palantir to see great distances, he used it to break and control Saruman who was initially his chief adversary. I think the need vs. handy argument is pretty flaccid considering what he achieved with it, even though he may not have had the item on his pre-world domination checklist.

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I was just thinking that the biggest threat to empire is precisely the "decays of time", and the "weariness" of the energy that it took to maintain said empire, especially after loosing the One. An "unholy" power of preservation in the physical plane.
Sauron did not need anything preserved. His kingdom was one of death and decay and his actual throne was impervious to any destructive force as long as its anchor avoided Mt. Doom's fire.
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