Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIX: Ang Sagang Daga, bow.

[Valier]

Woe is me! Nilp gone? who shall now give me luck as I shear my sheep? I for one shall look at the "creepy's" today. Who else would want to murder our prophet?

The guy who be short I see you have lost your beard I shall go and knit you one! I promise it shall be as sweet as me!

Well I must agree with others today, we must concentrate on killing wolves, and not worry too much about the lovers today, since the wolves are more likely to find them out first.

I implore you all wolves! Give yourselves up now, while you still have a chance. I may be small and sweet, but I promise you I hold a grudge for the death of our Mod-Prophet!

I am off to clear my head! I shall make beards for everyone! They shall be lovely, and warm! *smiles sweetly*

Tah for now! Oh just thinking to myself who would have the time on their hands to kill our Nilp? THE UNEMPLOYED that's who!

[Gurthang]

Wow, you would not believe the dream I had last night. I always have strange nights when I don't shave my overgrown hair. I'd love to tell my dream to you, too, but see really, 'I have not the heart to tell you'.

Initial thoughts: blatant and uncalled for!

1. Valier and TGWBS are the lovers.

Originally Posted by Valier

The guy who be short I see you have lost your beard I shall go and knit you one! I promise it shall be as sweet as me!

Well I must agree with others today, we must concentrate on killing wolves, and not worry too much about the lovers today, since the wolves are more likely to find them out first.

Sending a message, then discouraging looking for lovers? Perhaps...

2. Eomer mentions Lhuna in a defensive manner.

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Neither should we lynch Lhunardawen — yet, though probability theory dictates unpleasant news for that pretty little elf.

Lover pair? Not likely, but something to think on early, and then maybe late, too.

3. Thinlómien seems suspicious.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And Lalaith you say we shouldn't babble. That might be true, though I'm not sure if I agree with you. It's true that evidence is more difficult to find from a post flood, but we should keep in mind that loudmouth wolves more probably slip something than non-loudmouths. Anyway, your request is reasonable because if everybody posts as much as I did in my previous ww, no one can manage reading even through one day. So I'd like to change Lalaith's advice a bit: speak enough that you can slip (especially wolves) but don't speak too much to flood the village with your babbling.

Seems to turn slightly. Doesn't really agree, then more or less does. Although, I certainly don't think the wolves are going to purposely speak so much that they slip up.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

[responding to spawn]I thought about that issue, but somehow didn't think that hiding aspect. Anyway, I agree with you.

Almost a tad too agreeable, if you ask me...

Well, now that that's out of the way, let me just say that, by pure knowing-nothing, looking-at-the-list-and-picking randomness, I think that Naria is a wolf. Which means she makes my top six list.

[Garin]

The wolves certainly made short work of out beloved Nilp. He looks worse than the time I had a mishap whilst lancing that unflattering boil of his.

Allow me to fashion his hair for the funeral though... I owe him an amends.

Gurthang: Valier and TGWBS are the lovers.

Agreed that Valier's flirtatious comments were quite suspect. Would a Lover be so blatant? As I get to know Valier I believe she could be.

Valier: Well I must agree with others today, we must concentrate on killing wolves, and not worry too much about the lovers today, since the wolves are more likely to find them out first.

Disagreed. We find the lovers, we find a wolf. As much as I'd like this experimental role to play out past the first few rounds, it is nothing but an unlanced boil on the back of our village.

Anguirel: Nay, that which I fear is Love. Yea, yea, hearken unto me, tis Love which does destroy us! We must purge this place of all Love!

Agreed. Ang just used much more eloquence than myself. I might have a new signature in there. Not that I trust Anguirel as far as I can throw him. I trust no one at this minute.

Once again the debate between quiet versus the loud rears its head. I have always been on the side of the loud and the voters for obvious reasons. Sometimes I also must be less of a participant, so I understand the occassional mute. Luckily, the chronically silent shall be permanently silenced by the spirit of Nilp after three days.

Nonethess, voting records and dialogue are the best way to uncover the true identities of our fellow 'villagers,' I encourage all of you to participate TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY>

However, with a caveat. Wolves are often invigorated by their lupine standing and tend to be bit more involved than bored Ordos.

Luckily, I know many of you from other villages, this will help me uncover members of the hairy horde.

Much more reading and analysis to do...
I'll probably vote later than others, always a bold endeavor.

Can't get used to 'Limey Time.'

No offense.

[Anguirel]

Right. My lords and mermaid-like sprigs of juniper, I bear solemn news from the East, in the depths of the forests.

Though I found none of the Wolf-kindred as yet, nor any pernicious sorts infected by the grim vice of Love, I did stumble upon the Chieftain of the Hedgehog Race, and after a protacted battle I had the better of him.

"Tell me," I growled, "where lurk your demonic were-hedgehog cavalry!"

The Hedgehog Lord was no craven, but my instruments of torture were ingenious and convoluted and at last he told all.

The varmint claims to have disguised a were-army of hedgehogs under green shells and hidden them in a turtle farm. What d'ye have to say to that, Empress Kath of the Dread Meerkat Wandering Horde? Ha ha!

I've noticed that there are several types in this place who seem to be completely out of their minds. You're going to have to trust in a dour, sensible sober man of arms like me. And I say, enemies oft lurk among clerihews. Ha ha!

For one, I don't like the stamp of that musician fella. The King must have kept him as a joke! His harping is terrible! I say we tie him up in a tree when we banquet in the evenings, sa-ha!

But seriously. The King be dead or fled, I don't know or care which, and this is no time for airs. As for yerrer gallantry...I sense the stench of LOVE!

As for the laundress, she makes a very wise point, and is a delightful codfish.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Hello, fellow villagers. Never fear, SamwiseBankee is here!

Firstly, may I extend my condolances to Nilp's family. For generations our bank has been close with their family, and to see them go is not just to lose a customer, it is to lose a friend.

Eomer: different rules? Surely I know not of waht you speak! Cough cough!

Now, my dinner is ready and I must fly. I have some small suspicions, friends, and I shall share them as soon as I have enjoyed my fine meal.

[Lalaith]

several types in this place who seem to be completely out of their minds

You're telling me. Celuien isn't going to be much help in catching wolves I fear...she's going to be hard-pressed keeping up with the work-load.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Well, I'm back.

So, what is your friendly bank manager thinking? Cailin is the only obviously suspicious individual thus far. Well, I don't like it, fellow villagers. I know, there was some kind of excuse about visiting a friend out of the village, but I don't know. I shan't be voting this early- that would just be silly- but I'm uncomfortable with Cailin's behaviour. There was a whole lot of accusations, but not a whole lot of substance to any of them. And yet, I can't help but think that no wolf would be so stupid on day one. Any thoughts?

[Formendacil]

Day 1s, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways....

But, of course, that would detract from the ever so lovely Day 1 noise that I ought to be making...

Noise that, in due time, can be analysed by the finest (read: most paranoid) minds in the village to include cunning statements of gleeful guilt, which will then result in my becoming suspicious and/or dead.

Well, let's get to it. I've not got all Day.

Originally Posted by Cailín

And though Formendacil and Glirdan seem innocently unemployed, I do seriously wonder how they got such comfortable living arrangements anyway, huh?.

Mooching.

Nilp and Lhuna are so tenderhearted to family members that I've never needed to work a day in my life. Which, by the way, clearly proves that I'm not a Werewolf, since that's half my life support gone.

(Formendacil will return in a few hours with more Day 1 nonsense. Stay tuned....)

[Naria]

I'm here finally, you see I had a long night with a tough delivery. That little squirt didn't want to come out...driving me mad I tells ya

*sigh* Poor poor Nilp. He was a crazy fellow and now that he is gone whom will I vote for, on this, our first day?!

I best be look'n a little closer at the rest of you...hmmm or not, Gurthang looks like he got this whole thing wrapped up. He's already found six people he finds guilty and four of which to be hairy ones. Wow that is quite impressive, not! This shant be a very long game after all, according to Gurthang findings.

But I digress, and will myself, look a little deeper and see what I can see before vote time.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Sending a message, then discouraging looking for lovers? Perhaps...

Originally Posted by Garin

Agreed that Valier's flirtatious comments were quite suspect. Would a Lover be so blatant? As I get to know Valier I believe she could be.

But if Valier was the other lover, why would she 'send a message'. If she was a Lover and TGWBS was the other one, Valier's or TGWBS' fellow wolves would understand right away, what's going on. I don't believe that the Lovers will be leaving clues for each other. Why would they?

Originally Posted by Garin

Disagreed. We find the lovers, we find a wolf.

And when we find the wolves, we find the lovers. Surely it's easier to find a group of four wolves than two Lovers.

Originally Posted by SamwiseBankee

I'm uncomfortable with Cailin's behaviour. There was a whole lot of accusations, but not a whole lot of substance to any of them. And yet, I can't help but think that no wolf would be so stupid on day one. Any thoughts?

Well, if you want my thoughts, I'd first point out that there's a possibility that she was just fulfilling her duties as the town gossip. Her vote for Lalaith looks as random as her accusations, and randomness can be a good cover for a wolf. However, many people hadn't still recovered from the shock caused by Nilp's death and they were speechless at the time when Cailín was around, so there wasn't much to say, I guess. As to accusations with " a whole lot of substance", your case isn't that detailed either.

[Lalaith]

Something that occurs to me.
Wolves have been known to vote for each other in order to divert suspicion from themselves. This is going to be even more likely in our village, as they know there is a traitor in their midst anyway.

Which is kind of annoying, when it comes to trying to analyse votes to catch wolves.

[Eonwe]

This whole lovers thing is actaully really interesing. Consider:

The lover is kind of like the cobbler, and the wolf lover is kind of like a wolf cobbler. Except they are on their own. I wonder what the wolves are doing about this. Leaving it be? There is really nothing they can do, except watch their backs.

I wonder what the human lover is up to? I'd guess laying low. If you come at it from the point of view of teh cobbler, it gets most of its leverage at teh very end.

Hm, everything is swirling around in my brain. This should be really interesting, and have an espcially fun end game...

[Garin]

Dancing Spawn: But if Valier was the other lover, why would she 'send a message'. If she was a Lover and TGWBS was the other one, Valier's or TGWBS' fellow wolves would understand right away, what's going on. I don't believe that the Lovers will be leaving clues for each other. Why would they?

Agreed, I find it unlikely that a Lover would be so bold but from what I know of Valier ... I'm not convinced that her tendency toward unbridaled giddiness can be discounted.

I think I am destined to have an a contentious relationship with her, so I guess I am getting it out of the way.

Cailin
Early, early votes are always disturbing but would also be a bold move for a wolf. I actually find her innocent at the moment.

Due to my temper, I will want revenge against anyone who dare suspects me, so be forewarned.

Spawn
Of course I would like to find a wolf prior to the 'innocent' lover and NO it isn't neccessarily easier to find four wolves than two lovers. You see, anyone in love has had their brain removed and will be decidedly less clever than the canines.

At least I am not jaded. (sarcasm)

[Garin]

I am a WOLF.

Lynch me now. It's your best hope.

++Nilpauri-

Hang on, that's not my name.

++TGWBS

Oh for the love of crumb-cake Guy. It appears you are channeling our fallen Nilp from the great beyond. Posessed you are..

I am inclined to vote for you but almost more inclined to vote for myself.

In honor of the late great Prince Nilp...

I am not a wolf.

++Garin

[Eonwe]

Originally Posted by Garin

Due to my temper, I will want revenge against anyone who dare suspects me, so be forewarned.

I guess that's directed toward me? Be it known, I am not suspecting you. I find a very large difference in voting suspecting/accusing. And I do hope that my fellow villagers will not fall prey to unfounded suspicions, and keep votes based on occupation, or whathaveyou, as just that: simpley votes, to pass the time, so to speak.

Intersting vote, Garin. Though I don't see how mass suicides honor our Prophet...

[Gurthang]

Well, so far we have three candidates on the ballot, and it appears that two of them are campaigning hard. Politicians... *shakeshead* fools!

Yet to speak:
Farael
Glirdan
Kath
Caranlondien
tar-ancalime

Maybe I should vote for one of them, then they'd be more persuaded to speak up... (not likely)

Naria, calm thyself, or henceforth I shall viciously attack thy innocence.

Maybe we should vote TGWBS, he's probably pulling reverse psychiatry (I know that's not the right word) on us. 'No wolf would vote for himself!". Bah! I am unconvinced of that, but remain undecided.

[Eonwe]

Well, well, again, we are faced with the problem of werewolves. Four werewolves, no less. And to make matters worse, we have a traitor, though it should be said, our disadvatage is offset by the fact they have a traitor too. Indeed, one who has a much greater potential for runiation!

The lovers offer some great analytical challanges, if you are up to it, and have a spare afternoon...

Predictably, I suffer greatly from a severe case of First Day Suspicion/Dispare Syndrom. I am given to bouts of cynicism, skeptisism, and hopelessness. (Hardly the fealings of one deeply in love, I might add. )

Anyhow, I think I will go with (by now) the tried and proven voting method, that of voting for the tenth person below me...who appears to be...ooo, lets make that above...who appears to be Garin!

Indeed, my fellow skeptics and pesimists, indeed, I am proposing a random vote. "So your idea is everyone vote without thinking and without reasoning! How idiotic!" you say. Well, I would ask you, what are you baseing you vote on, hm?

Anyhow, obviously I haven't cast my vote, which mean if nothing else turns up, that is how I will vote. And, or course, I wouldn't be holding with this practice the entire game, hopefully starting tommarrow as evidence becomes more and more availible. That would indeed be idiotic.

[Garin]

Anyhow, I think I will go with (by now) the tried and proven voting method, that of voting for the tenth person below me...who appears to be...ooo, lets make that above...who appears to be Garin!

Indeed a mistake my friend unless you enjoy having the tarnish of a vote against an innocent on your record.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

You're telling me. Celuien isn't going to be much help in catching wolves I fear...she's going to be hard-pressed keeping up with the work-load.

Tell me about it. So many suicidal types out and about. TGWBS? Garin? That's a new one. And Ang has some new delusions, I see. Hedgehogs? Fortunately, his mind seems to have cleared since this morning. Add the increased work load to my own Chronic Dyssynchronicity Syndrome (CDS)* and it's quite a challenge to keep up, I fear.

I see that Valier and TGWBS have been accused of having a little secret. I find it unlikely. Open hints, while possibly protecting them from the village (thinking we would find it too obvious a bluff and excuse them) would be a dead giveway to the wolf/lover's wolvish 'allies.' And the wolves would have no hesitation about ridding themselves of their betrayer by killing the ordo/sweetie by night. A possible bold bluff by a wolf-wolf pair, yes. But not a declaration by the real couple. I'm inclined to think them innocent, since such a strategy would be a very bold move for day 1 wolves, but will be closely watching both.

Eomer has also been acting a bit off, though not in a psychiatric way.

Originally Posted by Eomer

This is my strategy: I will not explain it just now, I will merely hope that at least a few other villagers will understand what I'm trying to do.

I don't, but I want time to figure it out. So no vote for Eomer.

Alas, that's all for now. I'll be back in a couple of hours with some more thoughts and probably a vote.

*aka Time Zone Disease

[Glirdan]

EDIT: In quoting rules... do you actually think I am an actual Lycanthrope? Sorry to bring up RL, but seriously....

Of course I don't. I know, I'm being very contradictive and probably confusing with that, so, you know what, completely forget I ever said that. I was kind of not myself at the time.

Call off your dogs Glirdan and don't go about quoting the rules to me. I voted to have myself lynched so please let me step off this mortal coil if you find it worth your time.
Only a wolf will find it satisfactory.
Please vote for me if you have any suspicion.
I still prefer to die by the wolves paws/claws.
I have many ideas that can service the village.
No
That is not a Seer hint.

You're telling me to call off my dogs. What's with the strong defense? I'm trying to bring up topics of discussion as well as trying to weed out the Wolves and attacking people, even if it does put you in major danger, is one of the best ways to do it. Take it from me. Even though it's been a curse to my kin in other villages, it's worked.

[Celuien]

Hmmm. Garin is being awfully, awfully defensive. Especially after a suicidal vote. Wolf or ordo in need of a stay at my psych ward? I'm not certain.

As for some of the rest, just a brief comment or two:
Formendacil - not suspicious. Helpful.
littlemanpoet - good thoughts from elempi. Don't suspect him.
Glirdan - another one I don't suspect now.
Farael - makes statement about wanting to cause confusion. But given his long history (his record takes its own filing cabinet), I'll give him a pass for now.
Anguirel - interesting analysis, helpful. Not apparently lupine. But please Ang, keep your next appointment.
Eomer - I think I get the (risky!) plan now. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
the guy who be short - odd, suicidal, but I think most likely in character
Eonwe - interesting ideas. Not suspicious.
SamwiseGamgee - analytic, helpful. Not suspicious.
Gurthang - likewise. Non-suspicious.

Such a big village. My fingers are tired. And I do need some sleep before going to work tomorrow. Really, all of you in this village are going to make me require my own services.

Coffee-break.

[Eonwe]

I'm voting, and then going to sleep. As I said in my opening post, I'm voting Garin and for no other reason than his placement on the list. Ha!

++Garin

The funny thing is, I started this bandwagon! Ha!

[littlemanpoet]

...please correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Lalaith - 1 (by Cailin)
2. Guy - 1 (by Guy)
3. Garin - 1 (by Garin)
4. Guy - 2 (by Lalaith)
5. LMP - 1 (by Eomer)
6. Eomer - 1 (by Kath)
7. Farael - 1 (by tar-ancalime)

That leaves 15 more votes to be cast, in the space of just over 6 hours, if I calculate the time accurately; there being so many non-East Indies types in this village, I find it surprising (and a little disconcerting) that more votes have not been cast.

Mulling.....