Tolkien & The Apocalypse - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bêthberry · 03-15-2006, 09:52 AM

Lal, I think you are on to something certainly. For my part, I shall keep these things and ponder them in my heart, for codes are not broken overnight, nor even in the time that most threads live, are posted to, and die.

I have, however, found this mad theory: Land of Oz = Middle=earth.

I wonder, too, if reading LotR backwards might uncover anything? A quick computer search for the number of times Tolkien uses the pronoun them might find an exceptionally high usage of the word, perhaps signifying his prophecy concering the use of crystal meth, the th really reflecting the Old English þ. Or would that be ð? Hence, a single letter not reversed. It would explain why so many readers find themselves succumbing to a Middle earth addiction. One could call this meht-a-conspira-theora.

Morsul the Dark · 03-15-2006, 10:29 AM

only because i hate the mayan calender...has it ever occurred to anyone maybe the mayans just got bored of writing this calender? i mean they're from what? 4000 years ago? I think the guy making it was like ok Im done we dont need to add anything on for 4000 years we're good

sorry just that particular theory gets under my skin

ummm...sorry about the rant otherwise very interesting points what are these notion club papers?

alatar · 03-15-2006, 10:55 AM

As I still haven't recovered my books, I will attempt to look for encoded relevations in audio form.

Does anyone know how to play a CD backwards?

Earendilyon · 03-15-2006, 12:42 PM

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what are these notion club papers?

The Notion Club Papers

Morsul the Dark · 03-16-2006, 09:48 AM

thank...again sorry for the rant

alatar · 03-16-2006, 10:32 AM

The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to get concerned. My observation is that the chance of the apocalypse happening is inversely proportional to the number of books touted by the doomsayer. Think about it; if the end were nigh, would you really spend your last days writing books and making appearances?

I'd be either enjoying life or building a really secure hole in which to ride out the storm.

So, as the Mayans aren't with us anymore to collect any royalties, and so far there's been no 're-re-release of the Notion Club papers,' one might want to go out and buy a shovel while they're still available.

Bêthberry · 03-16-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alatar

Think about it; if the end were nigh, would you really spend your last days writing books and making appearances?

I'd be either enjoying life or building a really secure hole in which to ride out the storm.

So, as the Mayans aren't with us anymore to collect any royalties, and so far there's been no 're-re-release of the Notion Club papers,' one might want to go out and buy a shovel while they're still available.

Well, but but but. What if one's way of enjoying life is to write books? And, anyway, I'm sure that there are lots of theories/ideas/ motivations/promptings/urgings/ authorical canonical statements which actually claim that writers write to cheat the gift of death. So, alatar, I'm not sure your inverse proportional theory would hold portent, if not water.

alatar · 03-16-2006, 12:45 PM

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Well, but but but. What if one's way of enjoying life is to write books?

I note that the books are not only written, but sold, and not cheaply (until after Dooms Day passes, then they're quite the bargain...). Must be the enjoyment of capitalism; that and wringing oil from snakes.

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And, anyway, I'm sure that there are lots of theories/ideas/ motivations/promptings/urgings/ authorical canonical statements which actually claim that writers write to cheat the gift of death.

All of that digging must be affecting my brain - probably radon - not sure what you mean.

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So, alatar, I'm not sure your inverse proportional theory would hold portent, if not water.

Back in the day, found and read a copy of Hal Lindsey's "Late Great Planet Earth" and some other products of his enjoyment, and, as would seem obvious, his end of the world predictions were all for not. Purportedly his 18 books on the topic have sold 35 million copies. A quick search brings up a bunch of other profiting prophets, but I'll just use the one point to set the trend.

And don't get me started on diluvial days of doom.

By the by, is there any mention of the causal agent and extinction extent of the Big 2012? And where can I get a T-shirt?

Oddwen · 03-16-2006, 10:42 AM

Well, there could be something in the Lord of the Rings code - but I have not had time to search for myself.

03-15-2006, 09:52 AM	#1
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Lal, I think you are on to something certainly. For my part, I shall keep these things and ponder them in my heart, for codes are not broken overnight, nor even in the time that most threads live, are posted to, and die. I have, however, found this mad theory: Land of Oz = Middle=earth. I wonder, too, if reading LotR backwards might uncover anything? A quick computer search for the number of times Tolkien uses the pronoun them might find an exceptionally high usage of the word, perhaps signifying his prophecy concering the use of crystal meth, the th really reflecting the Old English þ. Or would that be ð? Hence, a single letter not reversed. It would explain why so many readers find themselves succumbing to a Middle earth addiction. One could call this meht-a-conspira-theora. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away. Last edited by Bêthberry; 03-15-2006 at 09:57 AM.

03-15-2006, 10:29 AM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	only because i hate the mayan calender...has it ever occurred to anyone maybe the mayans just got bored of writing this calender? i mean they're from what? 4000 years ago? I think the guy making it was like ok Im done we dont need to add anything on for 4000 years we're good sorry just that particular theory gets under my skin ummm...sorry about the rant otherwise very interesting points what are these notion club papers? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

03-15-2006, 10:55 AM	#3
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	As I still haven't recovered my books, I will attempt to look for encoded relevations in audio form. Does anyone know how to play a CD backwards? __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

03-16-2006, 09:48 AM	#5
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	thank...again sorry for the rant __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

03-16-2006, 10:32 AM	#6
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to get concerned. My observation is that the chance of the apocalypse happening is inversely proportional to the number of books touted by the doomsayer. Think about it; if the end were nigh, would you really spend your last days writing books and making appearances? I'd be either enjoying life or building a really secure hole in which to ride out the storm. So, as the Mayans aren't with us anymore to collect any royalties, and so far there's been no 're-re-release of the Notion Club papers,' one might want to go out and buy a shovel while they're still available. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

03-16-2006, 10:42 AM	#9
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	Well, there could be something in the Lord of the Rings code - but I have not had time to search for myself. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door