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Thinlómien · 03-15-2006, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spawn

As you said, we may not want to spread the votes too wide, but basically, I think people should vote for the person they find the most suspicious.

I would like to add that the same might go with bandwagoners. Bandwagoning is considered a low crime, but really I think it is a worse crime not to vote the one you suspect solely because of avoiding bandwagoning.

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Originally Posted by spawn

Well, it's good that you want to help the quieter ones, but I'm afraid that asking the louder villagers to hold back will make it easier for the possible loudmouth wolves to hide. I don't think honest analyzing and debating in the usual manner will hinder us in our wolf hunt even if it was rather page consuming.

I thought about that issue, but somehow didn't think that hiding aspect.

Anyway, I agree with you.

Cailín · 03-15-2006, 06:48 AM

Well, it is basically thus:

There are now five (and perhaps seven, but we cannot be sure) people who know more than the rest of us. They each have a hidden agenda: the wolves will wish to see as many innocents lynched as possible, while the Lovers are more pre-occupied with protecting each other. Their accusations may be random, but their voting will not be.

With a traitor in their midst, the wolves will be more on guard as usual. I think they may fear to cast wolf on wolf votes in case one of them is immediately suspected as being the treacherous one. However, they may have agreed on a different strategy that we are unaware of. Whatever the scenario, I think we cannot count on the assistance of WereRomeo / WereJulia. Chances are the wolves will figure out the identity of the Lovers far before we do - so I suppose we should be focusing on finding the wolves instead.

I feel like I'm rambling a little, but I am just trying to get my thoughts on screen. Call me pessimistic, but it is probable an innocent will die today. Let's in any case avoid making it two!

On a lighter note, did you know Thinlomien has been seeing Celuien lately? Hmm, I wonder what that's all about. Also, some little bird told me Valier doesn't merely shear sheep, if you get my meaning. And though Formendacil and Glirdan seem innocently unemployed, I do seriously wonder how they got such comfortable living arrangements anyway, huh?

Cailín · 03-15-2006, 06:59 AM

Now... the time has already come for me to vote.

++LALAITH

Because she is young, rich and beautiful and I just can't stand it.

Thinlómien · 03-15-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cailín

On a lighter note, did you know Thinlomien has been seeing Celuien lately?

Have I?
Are you hinting a wolf or a seer union? For surely we can't be lesbian lovers...

Celuien · 03-15-2006, 08:22 AM

Poor Nilp. We were just beginning to make progress on his strange psychiatric condition. Sadly, it appears that he remained suicidal, or at least the personality known as Adam did. A tragedy.

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On a lighter note, did you know Thinlomien has been seeing Celuien lately?

Thinlomien's visits are, of course, protected by patient confidentiality. I cannot disclose their content without risking my license to practice psychiatry. However, I am permitted to self-disclose information about my psychiatric condition and can say that I have no psychic powers, delusions of grandeur, or any type of romantic involvements.

Speaking of the Lovers, I agree that the Wolves will probably spot them first. Or at least the Wolf of the pair. So if anyone comes out strongly against one of our villagers, it could be a wolf turning against a suspected traitor. Just something to consider. And I'll be on the lookout for pairs.

My office will remain open late for anyone wishing to discuss paranoia, depression or other difficulties related to our current situation. However, I'll have to go back to my office for a few hours before rejoining the village discussion.

Anguirel · 03-15-2006, 08:25 AM

Graagh! Ha, raagh! The time is upon us! I come from the woods to sing to you, o despised bluebells.

Many have spoken of Wolfen. But I do not fear the Wolfen-ones, any more than I shudder before the darts of their insidiously irritating allies, the Cavalry of the Nation of Hedgehogs. Them shall I slay with my wood-axe and my abstruse cunning. Ha ha!

Nay, that which I fear is Love. Yea, yea, hearken unto me, tis Love which does destroy us! We must purge this place of all Love!

I detest you all! Ye of lesser mind, who have mocked at my utterances!

Ah, that feels so much better. Now I shall go off for a while, and I shall return with a sack of slain Hedgehog Warriors to prove my prowess.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-15-2006, 08:27 AM

Or perhaps my love is entirely casual...

Yes, I can get away with that sort of thing and remain righteous and proper: for I have the King's favour. One law for the rich and all that — my dear SamwiseGamgee will understand this well. Of course we should not lynch such an integral part of the community as our good bank manager.

Neither should we lynch Lhunardawen — yet, though probability theory dictates unpleasant news for that pretty little elf.

And keep harping on about how Day One doesn't tell us anything: for though you be wrong it may lead to interesting responses from the village as a whole.

Doesn't tell us anything, HA! Simpletons! Thou wouldst never echo the music of Maglor to a grand audience.

I will immediately propose that we do not lynch me as I am linked to the monarchy; and everyone knows that royal sorts are more trustworthy than normal folks.

I'm also innocent.

Glirdan · 03-15-2006, 08:52 AM

This is a sad day. More so for Spawn then for the rest of us. May Nilp rest in peace.

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And though Formendacil and Glirdan seem innocently unemployed, I do seriously wonder how they got such comfortable living arrangements anyway, huh? (Cailín)

What do you mean by "comfortable living arrangements"? I live in a hut with one room!! It's a veery enclosed area I must say and I get chlostrophobic in small areas. So don't go talking to me about "comfortable living arrangements" miss talk-a-lot.

I agree with everyone by saying that this is going to be a mostly random day and that we should be very careful of the double lynching law. The Wolves could use that to their advantage. And this is also a most peculiar village. In all the other villages that I've heard about that have been attacked by Wolve there were only three Wolves and one Seer. Now there's two Seer's (a bonus for us) and four Wolves. Four Wolves!! This is going to be difficult to say the least...

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I will immediately propose that we do not lynch me as I am linked to the monarchy; and everyone knows that royal sorts are more trustworthy than normal folks. (Eomer)

Oh stop rubbing it in! We already know you're rich and powerful!! So stop flaunting it! And how do we know we can trust you now? In normal circumstances, yes, villagers would tend to respect and even follow what you say. But that's all changed. How do we know that you weren't sent here, rich and powerful, to lead those nasty lycans and try and convince us to not vote for you and your fellow lycans??

Now please excuse me while I go and wollow in pity for spawn, Nilp and myself.

Kath · 03-15-2006, 09:39 AM

*cries with relief* I missed half the Day and we're still only on the first page! Bliss!

But to more serious matters, Nilp dying. Unfortunate but if the wolves hadn't done it he'd have done it himself anyway!

As for levels of talk, it's hard for someone who is naturally quiet to be loud and vice versa, it tends to be something ingrained, but I can see the benefits gained from trying to moderate the amount. Still, as various people have said, it can be good if there is lots of talking, as the wolves or the Lovers might slip up. Perhaps as an in-between measure we should try talking often but not huge amounts of text all at once, as that's a little daunting!

Since we seem to be discussing double lynchings I'll say now that I'm not a fan, but can see their use in some situations. For example if the Seer dreamt of two wolves on consecutive Nights then a revelation and a double lynch would be in order.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 03-15-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

I would like to add that the same might go with bandwagoners. Bandwagoning is considered a low crime, but really I think it is a worse crime not to vote the one you suspect solely because of avoiding bandwagoning.

But then again, you are not bandwagoning if you vote for someone you deem guilty even though other people would have voted for the same person for whatever reasons.

As long as people can give well-reasoned votes, they will help our mission to lynch the wolves. I understand that might be a problem toDay, though... *coughCailíncough*

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Nay, that which I fear is Love. Yea, yea, hearken unto me, tis Love which does destroy us! We must purge this place of all Love!

But as soon as all of the wolves are dead (or maybe even sooner), the mysterious lover will be, too. I guess we can regard the Ord Lover as a kind of a Cobbler, really, so catching the wolves is our principal task now, don't you think?

03-15-2006, 08:25 AM	#6
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Graagh! Ha, raagh! The time is upon us! I come from the woods to sing to you, o despised bluebells. Many have spoken of Wolfen. But I do not fear the Wolfen-ones, any more than I shudder before the darts of their insidiously irritating allies, the Cavalry of the Nation of Hedgehogs. Them shall I slay with my wood-axe and my abstruse cunning. Ha ha! Nay, that which I fear is Love. Yea, yea, hearken unto me, tis Love which does destroy us! We must purge this place of all Love! I detest you all! Ye of lesser mind, who have mocked at my utterances! Ah, that feels so much better. Now I shall go off for a while, and I shall return with a sack of slain Hedgehog Warriors to prove my prowess. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-15-2006, 08:27 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Or perhaps my love is entirely casual... Yes, I can get away with that sort of thing and remain righteous and proper: for I have the King's favour. One law for the rich and all that — my dear SamwiseGamgee will understand this well. Of course we should not lynch such an integral part of the community as our good bank manager. Neither should we lynch Lhunardawen — yet, though probability theory dictates unpleasant news for that pretty little elf. And keep harping on about how Day One doesn't tell us anything: for though you be wrong it may lead to interesting responses from the village as a whole. Doesn't tell us anything, HA! Simpletons! Thou wouldst never echo the music of Maglor to a grand audience. I will immediately propose that we do not lynch me as I am linked to the monarchy; and everyone knows that royal sorts are more trustworthy than normal folks. I'm also innocent. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-15-2006, 09:39 AM	#9
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	cries with relief I missed half the Day and we're still only on the first page! Bliss! But to more serious matters, Nilp dying. Unfortunate but if the wolves hadn't done it he'd have done it himself anyway! As for levels of talk, it's hard for someone who is naturally quiet to be loud and vice versa, it tends to be something ingrained, but I can see the benefits gained from trying to moderate the amount. Still, as various people have said, it can be good if there is lots of talking, as the wolves or the Lovers might slip up. Perhaps as an in-between measure we should try talking often but not huge amounts of text all at once, as that's a little daunting! Since we seem to be discussing double lynchings I'll say now that I'm not a fan, but can see their use in some situations. For example if the Seer dreamt of two wolves on consecutive Nights then a revelation and a double lynch would be in order. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

03-15-2006, 06:48 AM	#2
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Well, it is basically thus: There are now five (and perhaps seven, but we cannot be sure) people who know more than the rest of us. They each have a hidden agenda: the wolves will wish to see as many innocents lynched as possible, while the Lovers are more pre-occupied with protecting each other. Their accusations may be random, but their voting will not be. With a traitor in their midst, the wolves will be more on guard as usual. I think they may fear to cast wolf on wolf votes in case one of them is immediately suspected as being the treacherous one. However, they may have agreed on a different strategy that we are unaware of. Whatever the scenario, I think we cannot count on the assistance of WereRomeo / WereJulia. Chances are the wolves will figure out the identity of the Lovers far before we do - so I suppose we should be focusing on finding the wolves instead. I feel like I'm rambling a little, but I am just trying to get my thoughts on screen. Call me pessimistic, but it is probable an innocent will die today. Let's in any case avoid making it two! On a lighter note, did you know Thinlomien has been seeing Celuien lately? Hmm, I wonder what that's all about. Also, some little bird told me Valier doesn't merely shear sheep, if you get my meaning. And though Formendacil and Glirdan seem innocently unemployed, I do seriously wonder how they got such comfortable living arrangements anyway, huh?

03-15-2006, 06:59 AM	#3
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Now... the time has already come for me to vote. ++LALAITH Because she is young, rich and beautiful and I just can't stand it.