Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVIII: The Play’s The Thing…

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, for future reference, and for general interest, here are the anagrams that we Wolves spotted.

Originally Posted by Lhuna @ #26

The Royal Invader Girl strides in.

Royal invader girl = ordinary villager.

I didn’t get that one until quite late on, actually.

Originally Posted by Nilp @ #30

Sign: Y'vana gill'd ro'er 'ir.

[Yavanna gilled rower here.]

Oh, The Saucepan Man from foreign lands, have you ever seen anything like my sign?

Y'vana gill'd ro'er 'ir = ordinary villager.

To which I replied:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man @ #39

Aye, I have seen its like before. But not in these parts. And ‘tis a helpful contribution to our e-moot.

e-moot = me too.

Originally Posted by mormegil @ #148

Sign: You by evil pinwheel

You by evil pinwheel = why believe you Nilp or why you believe Nilp.

Aiwendil caught that one. I missed it.

Originally Posted by Aiwendil @ #154

Sign: Hoi! I wilt my pun

Hoi! I wilt my pun = I’m with you, Nilp.

Originally Posted by Nilp @ #156

Sign: Sorry, we're closed.

I have no idea if that meant anything. I couldn’t work it out, if it did.

Originally Posted by Eomer @ #166

SIGN: You're making my head spin!

Which intentionally had no meaning

Well, those are all the ones that we caught. Were there any others?

Originally Posted by Shelob

Also, would there be any interest in a list of what I referenced/used in my Death write ups?

Yes please, Shemod. (Did anyone else take to calling you Shemod, incidentally?)

I have kept a record of our Nightly Wolfish counsels, if anyone is interested. Unsurprisingly, given the nature of the three of us, they are rather long, so it would have to be edited highlights, which might take a while to compile. Would my fellow Wolves have any objection?

Originally Posted by Garin

... and no one picked up the destined to be an Ordo remark he made.

Yes, I largely glossed over any suspicions raised about me, but I did have to think long and hard about how best to respond to that question of yours.

Originally Posted by Garin

I did find it hard to believe that the other wolves accepted their sacrifices, yet, when I'm a wolf I am more than willing to give my life to the pack … I see future wolves mimicking his strategy.

Well, as I said, we had more or less agreed that it was a strategy that was available to us, but one which was only to be used with extreme caution. I was only too aware, particularly when voting for Aiwendil, that (even if successful) it would extend the game and therefore require continued effort on my part. That said, it does do away with the tricky matter of how to approach an analysis of ones’ fellow Wolves. And, as noted previously, it looked quite likely that Eomer and Aiwendil would be lynched in any event on the Days that I voted for them. My one regret was saying, when I voted for Eomer, that the Eomer/spawn issue would carry on if not resolved, as Boro and Form both picked up on that when also voting for him.

And it is not that straightforward a strategy to execute. The timing is crucial, since the vote for the fellow Wolf has to be made at a time when it is decisive. If, for example, it is made at a time when the Wolf’s fate is already sealed, or all but sealed, it will not have the same effect. And it is capable of being spotted. Nilp’s votes for Aiwendil and Eomer were very unlikely to be Wolf-on-Wolf votes, as they were cast early in each Day, before general village opinion had really become apparent. Mine, on the other hand, followed some quite strong mutterings against each of them.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Saucie, your comment on Glirdan's tender flesh was one of the best wolf-gloats I've ever seen.

Why, thank you. Yes, I was rather proud of that one. Although I slightly pulled back from its implications, as I wanted to maintain some suspense until Shemod’s denouement.

Originally Posted by tar-ancalime

We did our best, but in retrospect I don't think there was a moment when they weren't in control.

Well, I would rather not have lost my comrades. And littlemanpoet’s disappearance threw us into a bit of spin, as he was looking good for that Day’s lynching. I spent most of that Saturday afternoon (when I should have been attending to the Saucepan Clan ) coming up with an alternative strategy. And, although it meant two innocents down in one Day, it did I think actually harm us, as Garin would most likely have been lynched the next Day instead of Eomer, giving us an extra Night’s kill.

[Aiwendil]

The Saucepan Wolf wrote:

I have kept a record of our Nightly Wolfish counsels, if anyone is interested. Unsurprisingly, given the nature of the three of us, they are rather long, so it would have to be edited highlights, which might take a while to compile. Would my fellow Wolves have any objection?

I kept a record of our fiendish discussions as well. I'd also be happy to produce some edited highlights, if that would be easier, SpW (I know wolfing has already taken up a significant amount of your time).

Boromir wrote:

Aint that the truth, it was good pickings for the wolves on who to kill.

Thank you! It really was a marvellous stroke of luck that we got the Seer on NIGHT 2. But, to be fair, we had thought up until then that we had suffered a grave stroke of ill luck - for we (or at least I) were quite convinced that either Farael or Tar was the Seer and had dreamt of one of us. Holbytlass's identity was therefore quite a relief, and not only because we were glad to have killed the Seer.

[Garin]

I hope after seeing the possibility of deception through cryptic messages, players will be less intimidated by them. (Come home littlemanpoet)

You can lie just as easily through them as through normal dialogue.

When I am an innocent I simply pepper my sentences with the letter I. It did little good.

You'll also notice that it is the Ordos (or deceptive wolves) that leave these messages. Sauce didn't mention any decryption of the Gifteds that gave their identities away. The gifted and the wolves have people to talk to without the need for acrostics, anagrams, etc.

The gifteds tread on thin ice when dropping hints, especially with experienced players.

This seemed to be the main topic on WW thread, but it is my reaction to Sauce's last post.

Shelob, wolves: I'd be delighted to see documentation.
Let me guess: Garin will get himself lynched, we have bigger fish to fry...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

I'd also be happy to produce some edited highlights, if that would be easier, SpW

That would be great, Ngaurondil ( ), if you wouldn't mind.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

My fellow wolves, Aiwendil and Saucepan Man the Survivor, you were both magnificent! Especially in the efficient manner you took out Boromir88 and then Mormegil (whose secrets, I must admit, I had not myself figured out).

I was rather worried that my play right before I was killed would cause you more harm than good, but you handled it brilliantly. Putting suspicion on Celuien like that was the right thing to do. (By the way Celuien, very sorry!)

I had intended to lie and reveal myself as the Guardian much earlier in that day, to try and force the real Guardian and Hunter out into the open. But I didn't do that for rather selfish reasons: I thought there was still a good chance that I could have survived that day. It was only really in the last 2 hours that my doom was realised.

And another message to my wolves: thank you so much for picking up on that thing I did with tar-ancalime. When she voted for me on Day One I knew that she would be suspected for it later on; and that's why I gave that reply to her.

O Spawn, I have already told you but I'll make it more public: you were wonderful. You picked up on all sorts of little things that no-one else would have. If it weren't for you I am confident I would have lasted much longer. See that? She chose to focus on me only because of our Heroic Background, Anguirel.

Farael on Aiwendil, just wow! How could you be so right from so little evidence? You were quite the troublemaker!

Lhuna, I'd apologise a million times! Why do I always stab you in the back in Werewolf?

I was thinking about my record in Werewolf games. I've been on the winning side 7 out of 9 times: pretty groovy, yes?

But I've only survived once.