Survivor: The Second Age - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 03-05-2006, 05:56 AM

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As for me, I shall vote once more for a character I dislike who is, methinks, unlikely to have the League's backing...thereby keeping Individual Freethinking alive...

I'm delighted that you are showing an example of thinking independently, Sir Anguirel. Would it be possible for me to interest you in a brief cooperation that would hopefully turn out to benefit both of our campaigns?

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 03-05-2006, 06:18 AM

I forgot to vote in that previous post. I still think that the tribe of Noldor would look 20% more glorious at the very instant when Glorfindel is kicked out for the same reasons as yesterday.

++Glorfindel

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-05-2006, 06:31 AM

I rather fail to see anything "extraordinary" about this so-called League ...

And the more people that profess to be members of it, the more it looks suspiciously like a close-knit alliance. One that threatens to dominate the show. It must be resisted.

Some rather good points have been made in favour of evicting Glorfindel. And I must profess that my only real interest is, as always, to try to maintain balance between the tribes. The Noldor and the Elendili are looking rather strong so, right now, I will place my vote for:

+ + GLORFINDEL

So pathetic in the Second Age that he had to be given another opportunity in the Third. When his sole contribution was to have his horse nicked by Arwen.

Although I remain open to sensible suggestions for any member of the Noldor or Elendili tribes.

Glirdan · 03-05-2006, 08:53 AM

Must save Glorfindel!!!

++Celeborn

Where oh where has Folwren wandered off to in my time of need?? Lhuna, I shall join forces with you. Let's get rid of this, this.....ah, I can't think of anything mean to say about him as you already said it. Besides, Galadriel does all the work. Celeborn is only there for moral support.

Kuruharan · 03-05-2006, 09:13 AM

Announcer: Noooobody knoooooows the trouble I seen,
Noooobody knoooooows my sorrow…

Oh, we’re back. Who cares. The light has gone out of my life. My joy, my happiness. Now all I have are my *hic* memories…and this bottle of Captain Ishmael Strangereek’s for company…

Color Commentator: And they say I’m a lush. Two elves seem to be on the agenda for today. Apparently, the electors are finding the overabundance of elves to have a similar effect to two flasks of Cap’n Strangereek’s Amber Amnesia on an empty stomach.

Announcer: Noooobooody knoooooows, how drrry I…errr…am

Color Commentator: Speaking of Amber Amnesia, much to his embarrassment, Kuruharan has realized that he totally forgot to actually cast a vote yesterday. Ooops.

Meanwhile, in a dark underwater lair…

Spokesperson: Fellow members of H.A.G., I call this meeting to order. We have before us a great opportunity! We have the chance to kill the gorgeous Amanda Bobblehead!!

wild applause

Spokesperson: My friends, I too can barely restrain my glee at the chance to destroy this icon of male fantasy…

wild applause and cheering

Spokesperson: Please, we must have order…order…THERE IS A DANGER!!! Thank you. Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five has been assigned the task of tracking her down and rescuing her.

wild sounds of fury

Spokesperson: That’s right my friends…and what fate do we have in store for those who attempt to defend such fixtures of the male libido as sideline reporters?

H.A.G.: DEATH, DEATH, DEATH!!!

Spokesperson: BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!!

Director: The forces of H.A.G. have been unleashed against the steely will of Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five. Will he be able to survive? Will he find and rescue Amanda Bobblehead? Will he triumph in the end? Since this is a cheap cable channel production, we will have to wait to find out after these commercial messages.

Lalaith · 03-05-2006, 10:40 AM

....I'm assuming this is satire, Kuru.....

Lalaith · 03-05-2006, 10:52 AM

....oh yes....the voting.

Glorfindel - it's not *his* fault he became the poster boy of a certain reactionary anti-Arwen fanboy element in the Third Age. But, let us actually re-examine this Third Age Glorfindel. He had the light of Valinor in his face, did he not....implying that he was only recently returned from his soujourn with Mandos.
So who is this Glorfindel anyway? The scion of the House of the Golden Flower of Gondolin? The Asfaloth chap? Both? Should he be around in the second age at all? I quote from the Encyclopaedia of Arda:

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The question of Glorfindel's identity, then, brings us to a much wider, and highly relevant, question. Can we accept a writer's personal notes, whether written in preparation for a published work, or simply for personal satisfaction, as part of that writer's 'canon'?

So you see, keeping him around is not only confusing, it could open a can of literary worms compared to which the Balrog controversy and the Canonicity thread would seem like an ABC primer.

++GLORFINDEL

Celuien · 03-05-2006, 11:06 AM

Hmm. I'm fond of both Glorfindel and Celeborn.

My opinion of Celeborn was given rather extensively in a prior edition of this show. As for Glorfindel, well, he is an amazing character too. How can one not like a great Elf-lord, returned to Middle-earth from Mandos after defeating a Balrog? By special permission, I might add.

As for the Canonicity issue, I always enjoy a good can of worms.

I would like to introduce

++FIMBRETHIL

into today's voting for being relatively insignificant. All we know about this Entwife is that she disappeared. What does she really contribute? Not much. If we want to keep an Entish representative for now, it should be Fangorn, who at least aided the War of the Ring to some extent.

I hope the League will agree.

03-05-2006, 06:18 AM	#2
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	I forgot to vote in that previous post. I still think that the tribe of Noldor would look 20% more glorious at the very instant when Glorfindel is kicked out for the same reasons as yesterday. ++Glorfindel __________________ Fenris Wolf

03-05-2006, 06:31 AM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I rather fail to see anything "extraordinary" about this so-called League ... And the more people that profess to be members of it, the more it looks suspiciously like a close-knit alliance. One that threatens to dominate the show. It must be resisted. Some rather good points have been made in favour of evicting Glorfindel. And I must profess that my only real interest is, as always, to try to maintain balance between the tribes. The Noldor and the Elendili are looking rather strong so, right now, I will place my vote for: + + GLORFINDEL So pathetic in the Second Age that he had to be given another opportunity in the Third. When his sole contribution was to have his horse nicked by Arwen. Although I remain open to sensible suggestions for any member of the Noldor or Elendili tribes. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-05-2006, 08:53 AM	#4
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Must save Glorfindel!!! ++Celeborn Where oh where has Folwren wandered off to in my time of need?? Lhuna, I shall join forces with you. Let's get rid of this, this.....ah, I can't think of anything mean to say about him as you already said it. Besides, Galadriel does all the work. Celeborn is only there for moral support. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

03-05-2006, 09:13 AM	#5
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Announcer: Noooobody knoooooows the trouble I seen, Noooobody knoooooows my sorrow… Oh, we’re back. Who cares. The light has gone out of my life. My joy, my happiness. Now all I have are my hic memories…and this bottle of Captain Ishmael Strangereek’s for company… Color Commentator: And they say I’m a lush. Two elves seem to be on the agenda for today. Apparently, the electors are finding the overabundance of elves to have a similar effect to two flasks of Cap’n Strangereek’s Amber Amnesia on an empty stomach. Announcer: Noooobooody knoooooows, how drrry I…errr…am Color Commentator: Speaking of Amber Amnesia, much to his embarrassment, Kuruharan has realized that he totally forgot to actually cast a vote yesterday. Ooops. Meanwhile, in a dark underwater lair… Spokesperson: Fellow members of H.A.G., I call this meeting to order. We have before us a great opportunity! We have the chance to kill the gorgeous Amanda Bobblehead!! wild applause Spokesperson: My friends, I too can barely restrain my glee at the chance to destroy this icon of male fantasy… wild applause and cheering Spokesperson: Please, we must have order…order…THERE IS A DANGER!!! Thank you. Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five has been assigned the task of tracking her down and rescuing her. wild sounds of fury Spokesperson: That’s right my friends…and what fate do we have in store for those who attempt to defend such fixtures of the male libido as sideline reporters? H.A.G.: DEATH, DEATH, DEATH!!! Spokesperson: BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!! Director: The forces of H.A.G. have been unleashed against the steely will of Secret Agent Double Oh-Point Five. Will he be able to survive? Will he find and rescue Amanda Bobblehead? Will he triumph in the end? Since this is a cheap cable channel production, we will have to wait to find out after these commercial messages. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

03-05-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	....I'm assuming this is satire, Kuru..... __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

03-05-2006, 11:06 AM	#8
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Hmm. I'm fond of both Glorfindel and Celeborn. My opinion of Celeborn was given rather extensively in a prior edition of this show. As for Glorfindel, well, he is an amazing character too. How can one not like a great Elf-lord, returned to Middle-earth from Mandos after defeating a Balrog? By special permission, I might add. As for the Canonicity issue, I always enjoy a good can of worms. I would like to introduce ++FIMBRETHIL into today's voting for being relatively insignificant. All we know about this Entwife is that she disappeared. What does she really contribute? Not much. If we want to keep an Entish representative for now, it should be Fangorn, who at least aided the War of the Ring to some extent. I hope the League will agree. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff. Last edited by Celuien; 03-05-2006 at 08:23 PM.