Survivor: The Second Age

[Gil-Galad]

why not the other one too? double-vote em off


++Fuinur

[Elu Ancalime]

The book Anthem and in paticular objectionalism says that if Herumor and Fuinur had the willpower and sole justification, then they are obliged to dominate weaker willed men, being the Haradrim. Dont hate the peeps, hate the theory. (not like i belive that personally)

++ELROND PEREDHIL

He does not have the willpower to survive through any Survivor game. Leave the Weak at the Door.
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[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Herumor

Her room or . . . or what???

*groan*

The book Anthem and in paticular objectionalism says that if Herumor and Fuinur had the willpower and sole justification, then they are obliged to dominate weaker willed men, being the Haradrim. (Elu Ancalime)

Any sissy can dominate the Haradrim. Why, look at Sauron.

[Elu Ancalime]

Any sissy can dominate the Haradrim. Why, look at Sauron.

Yes, but Sauron was doing it for militaristic means. Because of their weak will, Sauron was able to use them in a frenzy to beef up his army. The principle is not that Sauron and Heremor and Fuiner were too weak to dominate anybody else, but they were smart enough to realize that theese people would listen to one who seemed supernatural(i.e. maia and Numenoreans)
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[the phantom]

++ELROND PEREDHIL

He does not have the willpower to survive through any Survivor game. Leave the Weak at the Door.

It's fine to vote for Elrond, but it'd be nice if you gave a reason that is actually real. Tolkien's books say nothing about Elrond lacking willpower or being weak. It's quite the opposite, actually. Are you, perhaps, getting the real thing confused with the movies?

[Lhunardawen]

++ELROND PEREDHIL

LotR. The Silmarillion (not that he was in that season of Survivor, but still). The Hobbit. And now Second Age. Aren't you just sick of him?

[the phantom]

Aren't you just sick of him?

Not really. I find it difficult to get sick of someone who is so awesome. He is the heir of the Noldorin Kings, the Sindarin Kings, the three great houses of men, and an Ainu. And despite his ridiculously good genes he never gets all full of himself (like Galadriel does).

Elrond was very wise, an expert healer, and a master of lore, but many forget that he was also called in LOTR "hale as a tried warrior in the fulness of his strength".

And here's my favorite description of him, from The Hobbit-

as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer.

And then check out this quote-

The Third Age came to its end in the War of the Ring; but the Fourth Age was not held to have begun until Master Elrond departed, and the time was come for the dominion of Men

Elrond was so important that they did not begin the next age until he left. It was only after his departure that Men could begin their dominion, which makes it quite clear that Elrond, due to his lineage and power, was technically the top authority in Middle Earth. It was no accident that the fate of Middle Earth was decided in Rivendell at the Council of Elrond.