Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 03-01-2006, 03:07 PM

Sorry for not posting here or on the main thread last night; RL ... which will happen tonight too.

Anyway:

Nice work with the Hawthorn tonic, Nerindel!

I see that you've all decided the healer from Meduseld is not a medieval quack who goes on about the four humours and all that. (snicker)

I would have stated the same thing that Bethberry said.

Glad you squeezed a post in, Folwren.

Nice writing, Jenny! I like the development of Lin's and Marinel's history. Very visual.

Kath: What are you doing to my kitchen!?!? It's going to be a mess by the end of one month at this rate! (not unlike the rest of the place)

I'll try to get something written by the end of tonight. If you want to post in between now and then, feel free. Oh, and if you do, don't forget about our late-breakfast consuming hobbit, Falco Boffin! Surely he would have something to say about all this hubbub....

Kath · 03-01-2006, 03:10 PM

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Kath: What are you doing to my kitchen!?!? It's going to be a mess by the end of one month at this rate! (not unlike the rest of the place)

Don't panic, I'm sure Frodides will have Kara clearing up before too long

JennyHallu · 03-01-2006, 09:15 PM

lmp: you know that Marenil is not Lin's father, right? Something of a father figure, mayhap, but no relation.

littlemanpoet · 03-02-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JennyHallu

lmp: you know that Marenil is not Lin's father, right? Something of a father figure, mayhap, but no relation.

Yes. Did I err in writing something somewhere?

Folwren · 03-02-2006, 10:42 AM

Yes, Eodwine mentioned her and called her the daughter, or something. But it sounded more like an assumption. . .it could have been Eodwine's mess up, conceivably, and although you know the difference, he might not. But you'll want to straighten it out later with Lin or something.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet · 03-02-2006, 10:47 AM

Oops. Thanks, I'll check it out and maybe fix, depending on what I think of Eodwine's state of mind.

EDIT: I've fixed it and left the mistake in such that Falco corrects him with appropriate "face saving" banter between the two.

JennyHallu · 03-02-2006, 11:28 AM

I'll get a post off tonight with Lin calming down after her stressful day...

Eventually Eodwine and Lin are going to have to sit down, maybe with Marenil tomorrow morning, and get straight what's going on with the two of them, since the original plans have necessarily changed.

littlemanpoet · 03-02-2006, 06:53 PM

I'm going to have some real fun with my next post, as soon as I can figure out what I want to do with this.....

Might as well store my information here as well as anywhere. Maybe you guys can benefit from it this way too. Not near enough here to go on, but it's a start.

Google search phrase: 'Medieval Dance'

Varieties of Medieval Dance

---taken from
here

Branles - circle or line dance formation

* Washerwoman’s Branle - a very easy dance that reflects the aspects of women in medieval life.
* Maltese Branle - a simple remake of a dance inspired by the Knights of Malta’s visit to the Middle East.
* Official Branle (also known as toss the duchess) - A fun circle dance that involves trading partners!
* Branle Charlotte - a more difficult circle dance that involves stepping and kicking to various changing beats.

Rounds

* Sellingers Round - a very catchy and lively circle dance done in the verse and chorus style of dancing.

***************************************

Dance Styles - - taken from here

* Basse Dance
* Bassa Danza
* Ballo
* Pavanne
* Galliard/Tourdion
* Measure
* Allemande
* Branle
* Country Dance

Courtly Dances

* Black Alman - a sedate processional dance that would have been done in entrance to many courts. 17th century.
* Black Nag - a livelier dance for three couples that employs the verse and chorus style of country-dance. Playford 1670.
* Rufty Tufty - a two couple dance with many turns in it. Would have been done in ballrooms where the sets of people would interconnect. Playford 1651.

Other dances

* Salterello - a hopping and aerobic dance reconstructed as best as we can from lithographs and sketches. Music 1400, Dance early 15th century or earlier?
* Prince William - a very complicated country style dance that involves a double mirror hay (figure 8 in mirror formation changing lines) English Country 1731.

****************************

Easy Steps(not true medieval but you take what you can get):

A single takes 2 beats, and is one step forward and a second step to bring the feet together.

A double is three steps forward and a fourth step to bring the feet together.

A slipping circle is done in a circle with the dancers all facing inwards and holding hands: the dancers step sideways to the left or the right without turning their hips.

A sashay involves a couple facing each other holding both hands, and moving sideways with a step identical to that used in a slipping circle.

When arming, the dancing couple grips each other's elbows with one hand, and uses two doubles to walk in a circle. Arming always appears in pairs; we adopt the convention of calling for arming left and then right.

When siding, the dancing couple advances with a double until they are next to each other with their shoulders parallel, and then use a double to return to place.

The set and turn single step involves a single to one side, a single to return to place, and then a turn in place using a double.

littlemanpoet · 03-03-2006, 04:04 PM

Nice post, Anguirel.

(#90)

I'm wondering if it's in the right spot? I'd like to find some place for it between, say, post 65 and - oh..... - say 75. But I can't figure out the best spot for it.

Then there's the difficulty of needing to go back and edit our posts in order to create the appropriate responses to the song..... *LMP scratches head* Any suggestions?

littlemanpoet · 03-05-2006, 09:04 PM

ROTFL! Good one, Jenny!

A lusty faux pax, or however you spell it. I'll be interested in Saeryn's reaction to that!

03-01-2006, 09:15 PM	#3
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	lmp: you know that Marenil is not Lin's father, right? Something of a father figure, mayhap, but no relation. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-02-2006, 10:42 AM	#5
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Yes, Eodwine mentioned her and called her the daughter, or something. But it sounded more like an assumption. . .it could have been Eodwine's mess up, conceivably, and although you know the difference, he might not. But you'll want to straighten it out later with Lin or something. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

03-02-2006, 10:47 AM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Oops. Thanks, I'll check it out and maybe fix, depending on what I think of Eodwine's state of mind. EDIT: I've fixed it and left the mistake in such that Falco corrects him with appropriate "face saving" banter between the two. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 03-02-2006 at 10:52 AM.

03-02-2006, 11:28 AM	#7
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I'll get a post off tonight with Lin calming down after her stressful day... Eventually Eodwine and Lin are going to have to sit down, maybe with Marenil tomorrow morning, and get straight what's going on with the two of them, since the original plans have necessarily changed. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-02-2006, 06:53 PM	#8
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Now you've done it, Fea I'm going to have some real fun with my next post, as soon as I can figure out what I want to do with this..... Might as well store my information here as well as anywhere. Maybe you guys can benefit from it this way too. Not near enough here to go on, but it's a start. Google search phrase: 'Medieval Dance' Varieties of Medieval Dance ---taken from here Branles - circle or line dance formation * Washerwoman’s Branle - a very easy dance that reflects the aspects of women in medieval life. * Maltese Branle - a simple remake of a dance inspired by the Knights of Malta’s visit to the Middle East. * Official Branle (also known as toss the duchess) - A fun circle dance that involves trading partners! * Branle Charlotte - a more difficult circle dance that involves stepping and kicking to various changing beats. Rounds * Sellingers Round - a very catchy and lively circle dance done in the verse and chorus style of dancing. *************************************** Dance Styles - - taken from here * Basse Dance * Bassa Danza * Ballo * Pavanne * Galliard/Tourdion * Measure * Allemande * Branle * Country Dance Courtly Dances * Black Alman - a sedate processional dance that would have been done in entrance to many courts. 17th century. * Black Nag - a livelier dance for three couples that employs the verse and chorus style of country-dance. Playford 1670. * Rufty Tufty - a two couple dance with many turns in it. Would have been done in ballrooms where the sets of people would interconnect. Playford 1651. Other dances * Salterello - a hopping and aerobic dance reconstructed as best as we can from lithographs and sketches. Music 1400, Dance early 15th century or earlier? * Prince William - a very complicated country style dance that involves a double mirror hay (figure 8 in mirror formation changing lines) English Country 1731. ************************** Easy Steps(not true medieval but you take what you can get): A single takes 2 beats, and is one step forward and a second step to bring the feet together. A double is three steps forward and a fourth step to bring the feet together. A slipping circle is done in a circle with the dancers all facing inwards and holding hands: the dancers step sideways to the left or the right without turning their hips. A sashay involves a couple facing each other holding both hands, and moving sideways with a step identical to that used in a slipping circle. When arming, the dancing couple grips each other's elbows with one hand, and uses two doubles to walk in a circle. Arming always appears in pairs; we adopt the convention of calling for arming left and then right. When siding, the dancing couple advances with a double until they are next to each other with their shoulders parallel, and then use a double to return to place. The set and turn single step** involves a single to one side, a single to return to place, and then a turn in place using a double. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 03-02-2006 at 08:49 PM.

03-01-2006, 03:07 PM	#1
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Sorry for not posting here or on the main thread last night; RL ... which will happen tonight too. Anyway: Nice work with the Hawthorn tonic, Nerindel! I see that you've all decided the healer from Meduseld is not a medieval quack who goes on about the four humours and all that. (snicker) I would have stated the same thing that Bethberry said. Glad you squeezed a post in, Folwren. Nice writing, Jenny! I like the development of Lin's and Marinel's history. Very visual. Kath: What are you doing to my kitchen!?!? It's going to be a mess by the end of one month at this rate! (not unlike the rest of the place) I'll try to get something written by the end of tonight. If you want to post in between now and then, feel free. Oh, and if you do, don't forget about our late-breakfast consuming hobbit, Falco Boffin! Surely he would have something to say about all this hubbub....

03-03-2006, 04:04 PM	#9
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Nice post, Anguirel. (#90) I'm wondering if it's in the right spot? I'd like to find some place for it between, say, post 65 and - oh..... - say 75. But I can't figure out the best spot for it. Then there's the difficulty of needing to go back and edit our posts in order to create the appropriate responses to the song..... LMP scratches head Any suggestions?

03-05-2006, 09:04 PM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	ROTFL! Good one, Jenny! A lusty faux pax, or however you spell it. I'll be interested in Saeryn's reaction to that!