Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVIII: The Play’s The Thing…

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

All you have, Spawn, is the 'feel' of my posts, and I can hardly argue against that. However:

Trying to disregard your points? No: I have answered them all (I think).

'If other villagers think Eomer is helpful it means I can't suspect him?' Um, what? What are you talking about? Classic example of taking anything I say and twisting it to make me look bad. Other villagers have said that I've made a couple of good points: that's fact. Why are you trying to make this look as if I'm shoving you away? I welcomed your questioning.

Fake smile? Whatever. I'm one of the more excessive smiley users on the Barrowdowns.

Difference between suspicion and accusation, does this block the essence of your theory? The 'essence of your theory' Spawn, is that I haven't really suspected anyone. I answer this by saying that I have only accused one person (Lhuna) but have suspected others. This is the entire crux of the matter. Your theory rests on that point because it is the major point — the essence of the theory, if you will. That is why it is contrived and false. Yes it has a couple of attractive whistles and bells, but the theory itself is contrived.

About saying that there was 'selectivity in your choice of target', that was a clumsy way of saying that you could have made such accusations about a number of villagers. Which I hold to, and I will post evidence later today.

Spawn, how's this for knee-jerk? I think I'll be voting for you today. Hopefully we can at least dispell this theory that you and I are working together. Why will I vote for you? Think of the word 'hypocrisy', and also consider what effect your rather weak case against me has had today.

Oh my Lord, he's so shrill.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Yes, that's right: thy noble ancestor, forever beloved by the house of Eomer, would be ashamed of you.


#41- Big long list of what's happened so far. Mildly suspects Celuien. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion*

#57- Midly suspects Lhuna. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion*

#85- Thinks there are good points against Aiwendil and tar-ancalime....but they don't look very suspicious. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion and then taking it back*

#94 (and #41)- She puts on the helpful villager cloak, expresses her disdain for all the Seer talk, and urges her fellows to find the wolves. *Spawn suspected Eomer for appearing helpful*

-She votes for Lhuna. (Funnily enough, like Eomer.)

#177- Mildly suspects Glirdan. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion.

#179- Laments the wasted Seer talk. Let's find wolves= be helpful! *Spawn suspected Eomer for appearing helpful*

-Begins suspicion of Eomer.



That's pretty much what her game was up until she began to suspect me. It is quite funny how similarly we were playing, Spawn. Now, and here's the important bit, there's nothing suspicious in what Spawn did there! Her very strong attack on me for doing something very similar to what she was doing is positively laced with hypocrisy.




Now, from the One yesterday, we have: Saucepan Man and littlemanpoet channeling her thoughts, and Mormegil. Actually, Mormegil I am less worried about because I merely seem to fit into his scheme. However, it is the other two I am concerned about.

I believe that littlemanpoet is a wolf, regardless. I have been following all discussion though I haven't commented on all of it. Actually, I might have to vote for him today anyway to save my own neck. Lucky Spawn. Without a vote for you today I'm not sure many other villagers will give my arguments against you time. But there are a few days left in this village yet.

There's a distinct possibility that Spawn is not a wolf; but her hypocrisy and SPM's repetition of her points has me worried.

[littlemanpoet]

I'm a werewolf. Lynch me.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ok, I might not be back later.

LMP supposedly wants to die, and the village does not want him around. I had thought he was a likely wolf especially after that first post today but his last post with his vote for himself has me doubting somewhat. This would turn out to be the greatest bluff in Werewolf history if he's let off. He won't be though.

In any case, I fear receiving a few votes today and I certainly don't want to die.

++LITTLEMANPOET

Even if he is a wolf it appears that I'll be suspected for that vote.

Spawn, you still have a chance to avoid my vote tomorrow but you are going to have to meet that charge of hypocrisy, which I think is very pertinent.

[Glirdan]

Grrrr!!! I'm such a confused villager!!! I really don't know what to think of that vote. It seems awfully Nilpish, yet I don't think Lmp would do something that drastic. It's just not his style. Mind you, it could very well be that he's a Wolf and by him telling us he's a Wolf, he thought that he could pull it off and make us not vote for him or he's a Wolf and very suicidal. I don't know what to do....

[Kath]

Quite honestly I think lmp voted for himself because, whether he is a wolf or an innocent, he is thoroughly disgusted with the way SPM and Nilp, and to some extent Lhuna, behaved at the beginning of the game, and I'm not sure that I disagree.

Basically that is cheating.

[Boromir88]

Quite honestly I think lmp voted for himself because, whether he is a wolf or an innocent, he is thoroughly disgusted with the way SPM and Nilp, and to some extent Lhuna, behaved at the beginning of the game, and I'm not sure that I disagree.

Basically that is cheating.

I'm not a hard enough "looker" to find such clues and never noticed such a thing. I think that's cause for lmp's frustration (among other things) and I can certainly agree with him. But now is not the time to discuss such things as what is wrong/right. Let's keep focused and I think any feelings about the cryptic clues should be posted in the Town Hall Bulletin board (aka Main Tol-in-Gaurhoth thread).

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Grrrr!!! I'm such a confused villager!!! ... I don't know what to do....

Just please vote for me and let me out of this cooked , rigged, cheaty game.

And thank you, Eomer.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Ok, so Spawn and Nilp are allied, right? If I don't vote for Spawn today then this is my reason.

No. And you may vote for me if you think that I'm a wolf. However, you may not vote for me if you think that I'm an innocent hypocrite.

#41- Big long list of what's happened so far. Mildly suspects Celuien. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion*

#57- Midly suspects Lhuna. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion*

#85- Thinks there are good points against Aiwendil and tar-ancalime....but they don't look very suspicious. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion and then taking it back*

Note the word 'very' suspicious. There's a difference between suspicious and very suspicious. The latter usually gets my vote, you see.

#94 (and #41)- She puts on the helpful villager cloak, expresses her disdain for all the Seer talk, and urges her fellows to find the wolves. *Spawn suspected Eomer for appearing helpful*

-She votes for Lhuna. (Funnily enough, like Eomer.)

#177- Mildly suspects Glirdan. *Spawn suspected Eomer on basis of his mild suspicion.

No, I didn't suspect Glirdan. I said: "I'm not holding anything against you (yet), but it would be nice if you stood behind your actions."
I actually continued collecting suspicious things about Aiwendil: "...that question doesn't speak for Aiwendil's favour."

#179- Laments the wasted Seer talk. Let's find wolves= be helpful! *Spawn suspected Eomer for appearing helpful*

Can you give me a quote? I can't see me lamenting anything in that post.

-Begins suspicion of Eomer.

I'm shocked. You forgot my post #165 - Mildly suspects tar-a and Lhuna. (Although, as I said in my post #264, I'm still worried of tar-a because I think you two might be wolves.)

That's pretty much what her game was up until she began to suspect me. It is quite funny how similarly we were playing, Spawn. Now, and here's the important bit, there's nothing suspicious in what Spawn did there! Her very strong attack on me for doing something very similar to what she was doing is positively laced with hypocrisy.

I'm afraid that you've misunderstood something in my theory, my good priest.
1) I said that I don't hold your vote for Lhuna on Day 1 against you, so you can forget calling me a hypocrite because of that.
2) Mild suspicion or helpfulness in itself isn't wolvish, it's the big picture that matters; what words people choose to use, how much they talk and, are they acting defensive etc.

What can I say, I think that you're a wolf. As to my "very strong attack", if I accuse someone for furry business, I think it's only fair to give enough reasons why. My conclusion was: "Right now Eomer's looking somewhat questionable to me." Well, after this little debate with you, I stick to my opinion.


ToDay I had to, seemingly quite persistently, too, concentrate on replying Eomer's answers to me because of my lack of time. If you don't lynch me toDay and if the wolves won't kill me next Night, you can expect better examination of the whole situation in this village tomorrow.

My time's up.

++Eomer