Nine Rings....Ten men wielding them? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

JennyHallu · 02-13-2006, 09:54 AM

ooh...shiny.

Perhaps "ring of power" in the movie meant a ring of temporal, earthly power. The ring of Barahir was a powerful ring, and that cannot be argued, but because of what it represented, not what it could do.

I fear here we are seeing only a difference between power and Power.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 02-27-2006, 11:19 AM

I don't know a lot about the films, but depending on the context Saruman might think that Aragorn has the One, being that he is Isildur's heir and that Isildur was its last known owner. Saruman had devoted a great deal of time to the search for Isildur's body, and in Unfinished Tales we discover that he had found it, but not the Ring. Then again, being Saruman he might think that Aragorn would surely take the Ring from a Hobbit eventually.

Perhaps this scene was an attempt to explain Sauron's sudden interest in Minas Tirith, which in the book is the result of Aragorn looking into the Palantir of Orthanc, but not having watched the extended editions the above are all guesses.

Saruman knew a great deal about ring-lore; in fact he claimed to have made a ring of power for himself, although what powers it conferred, if any, were never disclosed.

As far as I know, the Ring of Barahir had no power other than as a token of the alliance between Finrod and its bearer.

The Sixth Wizard · 04-29-2006, 09:09 PM

Yes, it was probably just an heirloom. <coughcoughboringcoughcough>

Goldberry101 · 05-02-2006, 05:34 PM

It says in the silmarillion that the ring has no real power, it is just a symbol of the alliance. O, and if whoever started this thread ever reads this, I think it's a good idea to stop using the movies as a reliable source. Not that I don't like them, it's just they are very different from the books.

The Tennis Ball Kid · 05-02-2006, 09:36 PM

The actual quote from the film, if anyone is interested

, is:

Quote:

"The Ring of Barahir. So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he has found Isildur's heir. The lost king of Gondor. He is a fool. The line was broken years ago. It matters not. The world of men shall fall. It will begin at Edoras."

Nothing about it being a "ring of power"...

ttbk

02-13-2006, 09:54 AM	#1
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	ooh...shiny. Perhaps "ring of power" in the movie meant a ring of temporal, earthly power. The ring of Barahir was a powerful ring, and that cannot be argued, but because of what it represented, not what it could do. I fear here we are seeing only a difference between power and Power. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

02-27-2006, 11:19 AM	#2
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Possible meanings I don't know a lot about the films, but depending on the context Saruman might think that Aragorn has the One, being that he is Isildur's heir and that Isildur was its last known owner. Saruman had devoted a great deal of time to the search for Isildur's body, and in Unfinished Tales we discover that he had found it, but not the Ring. Then again, being Saruman he might think that Aragorn would surely take the Ring from a Hobbit eventually. Perhaps this scene was an attempt to explain Sauron's sudden interest in Minas Tirith, which in the book is the result of Aragorn looking into the Palantir of Orthanc, but not having watched the extended editions the above are all guesses. Saruman knew a great deal about ring-lore; in fact he claimed to have made a ring of power for himself, although what powers it conferred, if any, were never disclosed. As far as I know, the Ring of Barahir had no power other than as a token of the alliance between Finrod and its bearer. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-29-2006, 09:09 PM	#3
The Sixth Wizard Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stuck under a rock in Valinor with Ar-Pharazon. Posts: 480	Yes, it was probably just an heirloom. <coughcoughboringcoughcough>

05-02-2006, 05:34 PM	#4
Goldberry101 Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 20	It says in the silmarillion that the ring has no real power, it is just a symbol of the alliance. O, and if whoever started this thread ever reads this, I think it's a good idea to stop using the movies as a reliable source. Not that I don't like them, it's just they are very different from the books.