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Tuor in Gondolin · 02-09-2006, 03:05 PM

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Is it possible that some of the Entwives was twisted into trolls, like the Elves was turned into Orcs? Presuming Sauron hade the power to do that of course.

Good grief! Could this mean that William and his buddies had
sex change operations!

It could explain their cranky attitude.

Actually, Gothmog has an interesting theory.

Lalwendë · 02-09-2006, 03:41 PM

There was a particularly good Ent character played in the Green Dragon (our free form 'pub' RPG in the Shire RPG forum) some months ago, and she was an Entwife, too. I cannot remember the name of the character off the top of my head, but she may have been in the Green Dragon sometime around page 20 or so...

It's interesting thinking about whether such a character would be canonical or not. Tolkien created the Entwives, but he did not go as far as to actually present us with one. Would it be acceptable to assume what the character might be like? I think it might be, as Tolkien after all hoped that others would come after him "wielding paint and music and drama".

Maybe an anarchic Entwife would be appropriate? It could be a return to the concept of the Wildwood...she could have the character of Old Man Willow perhaps?

piosenniel · 02-09-2006, 04:19 PM

Just a reference post:

The character in The Green Dragon Inn, an Ent maiden, started on page 27 / post 1075.

Elu Ancalime · 02-09-2006, 07:59 PM

Well....Sauron did create the Uruk-hai....and maybe Sauron did some gene splicing between uruks, mountain trolls, and another troll like being....Perhaps in the Second Age, Sauron did capture some Entwives, and tortured them into some horrid being that resembeled a gnareled tree but with troll-like disposition. But waving off the wife part, then the Entish characteristics would reenter troll DNA (or whatever) to enhance brute strength, resiliance to the Sun that most trolls didnt have, and a more thick and hard skin/hide(like the bark of an Ent/tree). Coupled with the manuverability and intellegence from Uruks, the Olog-hai could then use and understand other melee weapons (besides club weapons, obviously excluding rang weapons), plus comprehend the need (and reason) for using a shield, and possibly light armor. Also, since Olog-hai appear to have some whiskers, so maybe some mannish strain was entered (for stubborness, the Sun resistance, etc), but maybe also a Half-Orc/Goblin Man like those Sauruman bred.

Of course, there is some speculation there, but its a rather interesting theory.

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02-09-2006, 03:41 PM	#2
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	There was a particularly good Ent character played in the Green Dragon (our free form 'pub' RPG in the Shire RPG forum) some months ago, and she was an Entwife, too. I cannot remember the name of the character off the top of my head, but she may have been in the Green Dragon sometime around page 20 or so... It's interesting thinking about whether such a character would be canonical or not. Tolkien created the Entwives, but he did not go as far as to actually present us with one. Would it be acceptable to assume what the character might be like? I think it might be, as Tolkien after all hoped that others would come after him "wielding paint and music and drama". Maybe an anarchic Entwife would be appropriate? It could be a return to the concept of the Wildwood...she could have the character of Old Man Willow perhaps? __________________ Gordon's alive!

02-09-2006, 04:19 PM	#3
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Just a reference post: The character in The Green Dragon Inn, an Ent maiden, started on page 27 / post 1075. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

02-09-2006, 07:59 PM	#4
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Entwives as part of Olog-hai's genetical composure? Well....Sauron did create the Uruk-hai....and maybe Sauron did some gene splicing between uruks, mountain trolls, and another troll like being....Perhaps in the Second Age, Sauron did capture some Entwives, and tortured them into some horrid being that resembeled a gnareled tree but with troll-like disposition. But waving off the wife part, then the Entish characteristics would reenter troll DNA (or whatever) to enhance brute strength, resiliance to the Sun that most trolls didnt have, and a more thick and hard skin/hide(like the bark of an Ent/tree). Coupled with the manuverability and intellegence from Uruks, the Olog-hai could then use and understand other melee weapons (besides club weapons, obviously excluding rang weapons), plus comprehend the need (and reason) for using a shield, and possibly light armor. Also, since Olog-hai appear to have some whiskers, so maybe some mannish strain was entered (for stubborness, the Sun resistance, etc), but maybe also a Half-Orc/Goblin Man like those Sauruman bred. Of course, there is some speculation there, but its a rather interesting theory. ________ 2008 Cup Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 10:58 PM.