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Old 02-02-2006, 04:31 PM   #1
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I wonder about Galadriel's words to Frodo, that what he saw in the Mirror 'is also in my mind'
She was reffering to the Eye, which she most likely saw before in the mirror.
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Yet she's clearly considered the possibility of taking it...
Yet how much of that consideration stemmed from herself, and how much was a mere influence of the ring (which apparently tempted even Gandalf)? The ring's influence is too general to describe her, Imo.
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We don't know what they got up to after the Noldor cleared off....
A matter of personal opinion I guess .
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:35 PM   #2
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She was reffering to the Eye, which she most likely saw before in the mirror.
But why is the Eye 'in her mind'? Tolkien did state that the Elves of Eregion had 'flirted with Sauron'.

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Yet how much of that consideration stemmed from herself, and how much was a mere influence of the ring (which apparently tempted even Gandalf)? The ring's influence is too general to describe her, Imo.
A matter of personal opinion I guess .
She wanted victory over Sauron, yet even before that she desired control over nature. Probably both.
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:52 PM   #3
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But why is the Eye 'in her mind'?
She plainly states that her mind is closed to Sauron; the explanation could be that the mirror images form directly in viewer's mind - or that she is merely concerned with Sauron.
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Tolkien did state that the Elves of Eregion had 'flirted with Sauron'.
Yet Galadriel wasn't one of the 'flirters' since she saw through his disguise, which caused Sauron to turn against her and led to her departure.
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:02 PM   #4
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She plainly states that her mind is closed to Sauron; the explanation could be that the mirror images form directly in viewer's mind - or that she is merely concerned with Sauron.
That's one explanation.

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Yet Galadriel wasn't one of the 'flirters' since she saw through his disguise, which caused Sauron to turn against her and led to her departure.
Again, that depends on how you interpret 'flirting with Sauron'. What, exactly does that mean? My take on it would be not that they were interacting with Annatar, but that they were 'flirting' with what Sauron symbolised - desire for power, control, domination - what else were the Rings for? They were 'flirting' with the Machine, & so was Galadriel. That's why she was tempted by the One Ring for a time. The 'later' Lorien is very close to the Machine. Its interesting that when the ultimate Machine (the One) is destroyed so is Lorien....
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