The Hobbit Survivor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kuruharan · 01-16-2006, 03:01 PM

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I'm just as willing to irritate SPM as I am Anguirel, should the circumstances be right.

Your Excellency is most interesting. Indeed, I suspect you and I will be able to transact some business at some point along the way. Alas, unless you would vote for the Elvenking or Beorn over today and tomorrow, I’m afraid we might have to put it off for another time. However The Saucepan Man, if I recall correctly, has a certain attachment to some trolls that I might have some pressing business with in a little while. Perhaps we can talk then.

Although, not voting for dwarves and instead voting for a genuine elf (such as the Elvenking) might cause The Saucepan Man to have apoplexy…

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++Dori

I will not tell you why !

Hypocrite!! You false socialist you!!! How dare you vote for the Darling and Candidate of the Proletariat!!!! Your own avatar will disown you for this!!!!!

Rune Son of Bjarne · 01-16-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Hypocrite!! You false socialist you!!! How dare you vote for the Darling and Candidate of the Proletariat!!!! Your own avatar will disown you for this!!!!!

Hypocrite! of course I am a hypocrite, that comes with beeing a socialist.

You claim Dori to be proletarian, but why? A Dwarf of the House of Durin, who accompanied King Thorin II Oakenshield on the Quest of Erebor (So that they alone could get welthy).

He is of royal blood and clearly a royalist, he needs to bee removed.

You might see Elves as beeing more royal/Bourgeois, but that is not the case both races is ruled by the same methods and the dwarves are more greedy.

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-16-2006, 03:40 PM

"Basically, he's dead and therefore starting to smell. That's good enough for me to want to kick him off."

SpM has a point. Given the shortage of
embalming fluid on the island:

- - Dori
+ + Thrain

Kuruharan · 01-16-2006, 03:52 PM

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He is of royal blood and clearly a royalist, he needs to bee removed.

He was only very distantly of royal blood and was only being exploited for his labor. (Somebody needs to go back and check the genealogies). Some individuals here (naming no names) have even called him a “mule” and a “beast of burden.” If he was a royalist (and I have a certain tract in my possession written by a dwarf in that party regarding a scheme for the redistribution of wealth after the death of the dragon) it was only because he was forced to be so.

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and the dwarves are more greedy.

You’re wrong about that. The dwarves are actually more egalitarian “inside the family” than the elves. All the dwarves were rich. Clearly they had some early form of wealth redistribution active in their society. Have you ever heard of an elf other than the sovereign being rich? I thought not.

As for dwarves not distributing outside the race…well, the progress of thought can only advance so far during a certain epoch. This happened a long time ago. You can’t hold that against them.

Besides, why on earth would you side with somebody who called a worker a “mule” and a “beast of burden.” That alone is highly questionable.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 01-16-2006, 04:06 PM

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Have you ever heard of an elf other than the sovereign being rich

Have you ever heard of one being poor? Have you heard of Dwarves refusing to do as their liege commands ?

The fact is that Elves care for alot of things other than mammon.

No mather what you say the fact is that I dont like Dori !

Kuruharan · 01-16-2006, 04:19 PM

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Have you ever heard of one being poor?

Why, yes, as a matter of fact. Nellas, who was a witness for Turin before Thingol, did not give the appearance of being well off, to cite one example (which I believe is all that is required).

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No mather what you say the fact is that I dont like Dori !

*Tsk!*

Elu Ancalime · 01-16-2006, 07:39 PM

Well.....since none of us are too fond of Dwarves here, that makes the Elvenking a bit of an ally, eh?

And as for WHICH dwarf, SPM really brought out the point that caught my eye: Vote Dead Dwarves Before Live Ones!!!

++Thrain
________
Srx600

mormegil · 01-16-2006, 11:57 PM

++Thrain

01-16-2006, 03:40 PM	#3
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	"Basically, he's dead and therefore starting to smell. That's good enough for me to want to kick him off." SpM has a point. Given the shortage of embalming fluid on the island: - - Dori + + Thrain __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

01-16-2006, 07:39 PM	#7
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Well.....since none of us are too fond of Dwarves here, that makes the Elvenking a bit of an ally, eh? And as for WHICH dwarf, SPM really brought out the point that caught my eye: Vote Dead Dwarves Before Live Ones!!! ++Thrain ________ Srx600 Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 10:42 PM.

01-16-2006, 11:57 PM	#8
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	++Thrain __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”