Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVI: No man is an Island - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Farael · 01-10-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eluchíl

Kind of quick on the trigger, aren't you? You didn't seem to think very hard on it. We are talking about men and women's lives here. Or maybe that doesn't mean anything to you...for some unknown reason...werewolf.

Why, aren't we a little jumpy... I would think it is the lack of experience in these deals talking but tonight I have nothing better to go on and I am afraid I must cast my vote early to make sure I get a vote casted.

The Nilp growing bandwagon is a bad idea. Even if the guy is really guilty I would let him live at least another night and keep an eye on him, as should he be innocent any votes against him will say very little. But it is up to you fellow villagers what you do with your votes. Right now, I chose to go with the one my gut tells me is most likely to be guilty. I may be wrong, but I don't think

++Eluchil

sounds quite alright.

I have to go now, and I may or may not be around later. We will see.... think hard and vote smart my friends.

Cailín · 01-10-2006, 10:22 AM

Farael - your vote is all well and good but how can you stop a bandwagon by simply adding new names to the already extended group of possible lynchees today? I mean - everyone should vote for the one he deems most suspicious, but it is hardly helpful to all vote for someone else, thus making it easy for wolves to vote wolf on wolf.

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I stand by my previous statement. I can try to silence a bit but then that would be viewed as suspicious, wouldn't it? By being vocal, I'm literally sticking my neck out. That is why I have such disdain for the silent and am glad so many explain the reasons for being periodically absent.

I have no wish for you to silence a bit. I just wish to hear more pointed, instead of just general statements, which give you the appearance of being vocal without risking anything.

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As for the seer/apprentice situation I am beginning to be swayed towards the idea the more I think about it. So is that suspicious?

No. I think we basically all agree it is a sensible idea. By killing a wolf we'd have a good, reliable replacement when the Seer can no longer appeal to dead Formendacil and with the Apprentice and the Ranger being able to guard the Seer two nights in a row, I think this way we shall make the most use of our Seer as is possible.

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I doubt I will cast a retribution vote against Alcarillo. I hold no ill regard towards Cailin although some have already cast suspicion upon him in previous posts.

It's her, thank you very much. ((I wonder why people always assume I am male, when my name could not be more girlish...)). I am glad there are no ill feelings, for I merely meant to illustrate how suspicion might go towards you.

Garin · 01-10-2006, 10:28 AM

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It's her, thank you very much.

Please see that I caught my mistake earlier and added an edit. My apologies.

Farael · 01-10-2006, 10:44 AM

Well Cailin, I never said I was trying to stop the bandwagon, I only said I did not want to join it. And we have had only three people voted (besides Nilp) so I don't think the votes are too spread out just yet. Eluchil didn't sound quite right to me so I voted him. Feel free not to follow my instincts.

Having that said, I'd like to add another bit of a tidbit in favour of the seer coming forward if he gets a wolf on the first few nights. After we lynch the wolf, the seer should be able to ask him (or her) about someone, and therefore know at the very least, an innocent for sure. If we are lucky we'd get another wolf. And then, the ranger can protect our seer at least the night after we get the wolf... and another night if we get lucky and nail yet another wolf on the second night. But it all depends on the Seer finding a wolf in the first few nights. For the time being, we should try to help the seer by nailing a wolf by our own devices!

the guy who be short · 01-10-2006, 10:46 AM

I'm here!

Apologies for my lateness, villagefolk, I was unfortunately occupied with my books, and then out of the village to see the nearest toothtinkler.

Now, there are many villagers amongst us. Twenty in fact. And nineteen of us are guilty of something or other - only I have managed to live a life of pristine perfection and purity, pursuing the practice of hat-cobbling for the people. And no, that doesn't mean I'm the cobbler. Stop reading into things so much. Sheesh.

Fine, I'll be serious. One of us is dead, after all, Eru rest his soul.

I would like to declare myself openly hostile to all those those trying to kill Nilp. Nilp is Nilp. Is Nilp. Is suicidal. Got it?

Out of all those foolish enough to do so, I am most suspicious of Gil-Galad, for reasons obvious enough.

I would also like to declare my suspicions of Kath, we all know what a lying little sneak she is.

Naria · 01-10-2006, 01:26 PM

My, my aren't we a little bold. It seems to be a bit abrupt to be away from the meeting for so long and come in with tail feathers all ruffled. Why are you so defensive for Nilp? I'm not accusing you of anything,but it seems to me like you are trying to keep us away from something you may know...hmmm like a wolf maybe.

That being said I will cast my vote:
++ Nilpaurion Felagund

It is a little more than suspicious to me for him to be jumping into the fire like he did.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 01-10-2006, 01:38 PM

It seems to me like we are about to give the wolves a great start. . .

Naria do you really think it is going to help us find them if we all vote for the same person for no other reason than him beeing him self. If Nilp turns out to be a wolf then it is great, but if he is not and (I dont think he is) It will be real hard to find a wolf.

I guess I will be voting either:

Naria
Malkatoj
Gíl-Galad

I have left Luhna out for now because she was the first to vote for Nilp (not counting him self)and because she tend to get annoyed by people acting like Nilp.

Garin · 01-10-2006, 02:03 PM

Posted by Farael

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I shall be looking at you, my friends, and I hope you forgive me if I ever suspect the wrong person.

Forgive me but this could be translated as "If my voting pattern looks guilty please ignore it."

Posted by Gil-Gilad

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and it will be a shame if i voted wrong...

It certainly will be. I question anyone who voted for Nilp because it is an easy vote, and might be an attempt to stay in the shadows with the excuse, "Well, he wanted to die." I doubt Nilp to be a wolf or a gifted. He better not be a gifted, at least.

I am up busy cleaning out the stables because Kath didn't show up to help with the manure, that being her specialty. I will be quiet up until a half hour before the deadline.

Kath · 01-10-2006, 02:06 PM

To all newbies, the thing about Nilp is that he frequently and consistently votes for himself whatever he is. His alter egos sometimes pop in to try and stop him but mostly he just gets himself lynched, it's a thing of his. However, unlike TGWBS who seems to believe him innocent and so suspects those who vote for him (possible alliance?) I am quite prepared to believe that he could be a wolf.

I said earlier that no one seemed to be screaming 'I'm a wolf' (nice pick up there Cailin but even I'm not that stupid), now here we have someone willing to be lynched. All we have to decide is whether it is some elaborate bluff. However, we won't know that until the fellow is dead.

Bandwagoning always leads to accusations the next day but hey, we've nothing better to go on yet. Unless the situation changes dramatically in the next few hours I will grant the insane man his wish and help to lynch him. If he is an innocent then so be it. We'll have rid the village of a certain source of confusion. If he is a wolf then fantastic! Let's hope they all do it.

However, I wouldn't hold anyone who has voted for Nilp in suspicion much, as most people are likely just confused and want to find out what's going on. Hmm, except maybe malkatoj - a funny feeling about him? Sounds like a half baked reason that's been pretty hastily cobbled together due to time contsraints.

As for other suspicions, that against Lhuna for her quick vote for Nilp seems a little odd. She has the same timezone difficulties as him so it is unsurprising, and it seems she only had time for one post ergo the early vote for the only person who has thus far given any cause to lynch him. So Cailin, any other reasons for suspecting the girl? Or was it a first day random accusation?

In fact Cailin has come to my attention a few times while reading through this thread. Very quick to accuse but is hanging back on a vote. Thing is that everything she says makes perfect sense and is exactly what I'm thinking (which is why it's driving me nuts and making me suspicious of her).

Oh well. We've had 9 votes now I think and only 5 of them are for Nilp. If people are serious about stopping this bandwagon (Farael) they might do well to decide on one other person to vote for, as they might just tip the balance. However I should say now that without some seriously good evidence against someone else, my vote will go to Nilp.

Meneltarmacil · 01-10-2006, 02:02 PM

Hee hee hee, I thought we might have a Nilpaurion Felagund bandwagon on our hands. And, ha ha, I was right! Now we finally have something to go on, as wolves often turn up in bandwagons.

Of Lhunardawen, Gil-Galad, malkatoj, and Naria, I'm pretty sure at least one of you is up to no good. I'm thinking that Lhuna or Gil-Galad is most likely to be the wolf here, as they probably should have recognized that Nilp was just being himself.

Of those two, Lhuna is probably going to get my vote due to the fact that Gil-Galad is just Gil-Galad, and is therefore likely to be somewhat unusual at times.

However, I'll wait for another hour or so before deciding.... *heh heh*

01-10-2006, 10:44 AM	#4
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Well Cailin, I never said I was trying to stop the bandwagon, I only said I did not want to join it. And we have had only three people voted (besides Nilp) so I don't think the votes are too spread out just yet. Eluchil didn't sound quite right to me so I voted him. Feel free not to follow my instincts. Having that said, I'd like to add another bit of a tidbit in favour of the seer coming forward if he gets a wolf on the first few nights. After we lynch the wolf, the seer should be able to ask him (or her) about someone, and therefore know at the very least, an innocent for sure. If we are lucky we'd get another wolf. And then, the ranger can protect our seer at least the night after we get the wolf... and another night if we get lucky and nail yet another wolf on the second night. But it all depends on the Seer finding a wolf in the first few nights. For the time being, we should try to help the seer by nailing a wolf by our own devices! __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

01-10-2006, 01:26 PM	#6
Naria Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 500	Tgwbs My, my aren't we a little bold. It seems to be a bit abrupt to be away from the meeting for so long and come in with tail feathers all ruffled. Why are you so defensive for Nilp? I'm not accusing you of anything,but it seems to me like you are trying to keep us away from something you may know...hmmm like a wolf maybe. That being said I will cast my vote: ++ Nilpaurion Felagund It is a little more than suspicious to me for him to be jumping into the fire like he did.

01-10-2006, 02:06 PM	#9
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	To all newbies, the thing about Nilp is that he frequently and consistently votes for himself whatever he is. His alter egos sometimes pop in to try and stop him but mostly he just gets himself lynched, it's a thing of his. However, unlike TGWBS who seems to believe him innocent and so suspects those who vote for him (possible alliance?) I am quite prepared to believe that he could be a wolf. I said earlier that no one seemed to be screaming 'I'm a wolf' (nice pick up there Cailin but even I'm not that stupid), now here we have someone willing to be lynched. All we have to decide is whether it is some elaborate bluff. However, we won't know that until the fellow is dead. Bandwagoning always leads to accusations the next day but hey, we've nothing better to go on yet. Unless the situation changes dramatically in the next few hours I will grant the insane man his wish and help to lynch him. If he is an innocent then so be it. We'll have rid the village of a certain source of confusion. If he is a wolf then fantastic! Let's hope they all do it. However, I wouldn't hold anyone who has voted for Nilp in suspicion much, as most people are likely just confused and want to find out what's going on. Hmm, except maybe malkatoj - a funny feeling about him? Sounds like a half baked reason that's been pretty hastily cobbled together due to time contsraints. As for other suspicions, that against Lhuna for her quick vote for Nilp seems a little odd. She has the same timezone difficulties as him so it is unsurprising, and it seems she only had time for one post ergo the early vote for the only person who has thus far given any cause to lynch him. So Cailin, any other reasons for suspecting the girl? Or was it a first day random accusation? In fact Cailin has come to my attention a few times while reading through this thread. Very quick to accuse but is hanging back on a vote. Thing is that everything she says makes perfect sense and is exactly what I'm thinking (which is why it's driving me nuts and making me suspicious of her). Oh well. We've had 9 votes now I think and only 5 of them are for Nilp. If people are serious about stopping this bandwagon (Farael) they might do well to decide on one other person to vote for, as they might just tip the balance. However I should say now that without some seriously good evidence against someone else, my vote will go to Nilp. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-10-2006, 02:02 PM	#10
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Hee hee hee, I thought we might have a Nilpaurion Felagund bandwagon on our hands. And, ha ha, I was right! Now we finally have something to go on, as wolves often turn up in bandwagons. Of Lhunardawen, Gil-Galad, malkatoj, and Naria, I'm pretty sure at least one of you is up to no good. I'm thinking that Lhuna or Gil-Galad is most likely to be the wolf here, as they probably should have recognized that Nilp was just being himself. Of those two, Lhuna is probably going to get my vote due to the fact that Gil-Galad is just Gil-Galad, and is therefore likely to be somewhat unusual at times. However, I'll wait for another hour or so before deciding.... heh heh __________________ I ♣ baby seals. Last edited by Meneltarmacil; 01-10-2006 at 02:03 PM. Reason: Misspelled "probably"

01-10-2006, 10:46 AM	#5
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	I'm here! Apologies for my lateness, villagefolk, I was unfortunately occupied with my books, and then out of the village to see the nearest toothtinkler. Now, there are many villagers amongst us. Twenty in fact. And nineteen of us are guilty of something or other - only I have managed to live a life of pristine perfection and purity, pursuing the practice of hat-cobbling for the people. And no, that doesn't mean I'm the cobbler. Stop reading into things so much. Sheesh. Fine, I'll be serious. One of us is dead, after all, Eru rest his soul. I would like to declare myself openly hostile to all those those trying to kill Nilp. Nilp is Nilp. Is Nilp. Is suicidal. Got it? Out of all those foolish enough to do so, I am most suspicious of Gil-Galad, for reasons obvious enough. I would also like to declare my suspicions of Kath, we all know what a lying little sneak she is.