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Old 01-05-2006, 08:22 AM   #3
Tuor of Gondolin
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Note that PJ and the ilk wanted to kill Bill via the Watcher, but thought the better of it
Perhaps PJ was thinking of calling the film
"Kill Bill III."

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Moving along, this section generally has some of the better,
and more "book true" segments, except for the overly
long battle scene.
I like the occasional book (and movie) allusions to
providnce's (Iluvatar's or the valar's) intervention, since
the legendarium as a whole makes it clear there is scope
both for Eru keeping long-term Middle-earth history from
being irretrevably perverted by Morgoth, Sauron, et. al.
and still allowing scope for free will (if the quest had
failed a long time of ickiness for middle-earth, just as
the fate of Beleriand would have been better but for
the arrogance of Feanor and Sons. Therefore
Gandalf's transposed observations about Frodo
being "meant" to bear the Ring and Bilbo's sparing
Gollum don't, to me, necessarily negate free will.
And I was rather pleasantly surprised PJ and friends
kept this aspect in FOTR.
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