Tol-in-Gaurhoth XV-The Villagers Strike Back!

[Farael]

Well Gurthang I posted a list opposite to my own vote because... oh, right I VOTED THE WRONG WOLF. I think that Glirdan was being too favorable for the wolves for them to vote him off. Let's face it, if he had not been killed, the mighty Cacharot (whom I've heard is among us) would have chosen him as his victim, Sauron would have searched for his true role in his dreams.... that's just too convenient for the wolves, now they both know that Glirdan was not it so they must have chosen someone else. You can say I'm wrong, and I'll take that... but I'm not going to take any accusations, specially from a stinking wolf! If you had half the intelect we man have, you would know better than accuse me. Look around you, this is what the Heroes are aiming at.

Right now I have my eyes set on dancing spawn of ungoliant. There's something wrong about her.

Gurthang you should learn from Boromir and Morgmegil.... they have stopped suspecting me because I'm a man in a wolf town... or are they framing me? no, I'm being paranoid here...

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Farael

Well Gurthang I posted a list opposite to my own vote because... oh, right I VOTED THE WRONG WOLF. I think that Glirdan was being too favorable for the wolves for them to vote him off. Let's face it, if he had not been killed, the mighty Cacharot (whom I've heard is among us) would have chosen him as his victim, Sauron would have searched for his true role in his dreams.... that's just too convenient for the wolves, now they both know that Glirdan was not it so they must have chosen someone else. You can say I'm wrong, and I'll take that... but I'm not going to take any accusations, specially from a stinking wolf! If you had half the intelect we man have, you would know better than accuse me. Look around you, this is what the Heroes are aiming at.

Right now I have my eyes set on dancing spawn of ungoliant. There's something wrong about her.

Gurthang you should learn from Boromir and Morgmegil.... they have stopped suspecting me because I'm a man in a wolf town... or are they framing me? no, I'm being paranoid here...

My, my, my... a bit touchy are we my little wolf-in-denial. I must say that I am pretty certain you are wrong in this and I believe at least one hero voted for Glirdan, despite his suspiciousness. In fact, I'm not so sure you aren't the hero I'm speaking of.

Kitanna has not been around for a while. My suspicion of her is not high as is, and it won't take much to persuade me otherwise. So don't be too surprised if you end up with my vote, Farael.

[Kitanna]

Kitanna has not been around for a while.

I apologize for that. I'm not keeping quiet on purpose, I try to say something when I have the time to sit down and ponder what others have said.

I would like to put forth a note that morm gives us a list for the opposite of his own vote. Trying to revert suspicion? Kitanna also does the same thing with her list.

I noticed I was doing this after I made my post, but I still stand by it. It is more likely than not one wolf was in the Nonna list and one in the Glirdan list.

To pick a top suspect from each list I'd say morm in the list that voted for Glirdan and Spawn on the Nonna list.

Morm~ He jumped in early (which holds no real bearing) but early on he turned things onto those who voted for Nonna instead of those who voted for Glirdan. He knew eyes would turn toward those who voted for Glirdan and perhaps he was trying to hide behind the group that had the Huan as a voter.

Spawn~ Was the third to vote for Nonna. Boromir had already stated at this point he would most likely vote for Nonna. With two votes for Nonna alredy this seems like a nice place for a hero to hide in.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Farael's theory got me thinking and it seems very likely that the heroes would act in such a way. Surely they would know that joining a bandwagoning would be looked upon with scepcis and therefor chose to vote for another wolf. Unfortunatley we kind of have to bandwagons, so the only way the theory works is if the heroes votet as some of the first and therefor did not know it was going to be a bandwagon. . . If this is the case then they could just as well have been voting for Glirdan.

Conclution: either the theory fails or all of the Heroes is among us who did not vote for Glirdan or Noona.

But I think you have a point. We should not take it for grantet that the heroes would join a bandwagon. Of course you could just be a heroe trying to remove atention frome your friends. . .


EDIT: Cross postet with Gurthang

[Farael]

Everyone could be a Heroe, Rune, and that's what the three heroes among us are playing with.

Now Gurthang, you can blame me of being jumpy, but would you not be if you good willingly tried to help and got suspected upon because of that? I don't want to feud with you right now as you are not my top suspect, but if you keep acusing this innocent man I'll have to start suspecting that you know I'm innocent and you are trying to make me look guilty. But the only way you'll know that I'm innocent is if you are guilty. Are you guilty Gurthang?

Maybe I'm being a loudmouth, and maybe that's going against me, but we must get those heroes talking and confront them until they make a mistake. I ask of you, werewolves and warg, prove your innocence by talking. Make it suspicious to be silent so that the heroes are forced to talk. Sooner or later they will make a mistake and then we will catch them. They benefit from the silence of the innocents for they hide on our doubts and feuds.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Farael

Now Gurthang, you can blame me of being jumpy, but would you not be if you good willingly tried to help and got suspected upon because of that?

That's not really an excuse to be jumpy, as it is what usually happens. Everyone is putting forth suspicions and guesses. Those who's suspicions don't make sense or are being willy-nilly with their accusations (or just plain hindering everything) usually get killed. Which means that some innocent wolves will get killed because they chose the wrong accusations.

But rest assured, I'm not really looking for a debate with you. My mind is pretty much made up for toNight, but that isn't sealing your fate. My vote won't even matter unless others back it up, so don't fear that I am your sole killer.

Now, another theory. Let's say that Nonnacedak is a hero. (YesterNight) Glirdan had 6 votes, Nonna had 1, and there were 8 votes left. This means that 5 out of 8 had to vote for Nonna for him to die. That looks pretty good from a hero standpoint. They can safely vote for Nonnacedak, a fellow hero, and leave a 'safety' for later. If Nonnacedak is proven a hero, his voters look (more) innocent. If one of the voters is a hero, than Nonna looks (more) innocent. This looks even more possible when Wayne gets a sudden 2 votes.

All that means that Kitanna, Spawn or Boromir could be heros and that Nonna might still be a hero if one the those three are. It would be a pretty safe and brilliant strategy for the wolves, especially with how close it ended up.

Also, if Nonnacedak would be found to be a hero, than Eomer's vote looks like an attempt to stop the bandwagon.

If, right now, I had to pick who I thought our three heros were, they'd be: Spawn, Nonna, and Farael. But I'd not bet on it.

[Meneltarmacil]

Spawn~ Was the third to vote for Nonna. Boromir had already stated at this point he would most likely vote for Nonna. With two votes for Nonna alredy this seems like a nice place for a hero to hide in.

She actually cross-posted with The Saucepan Man and therefore thought she was only adding a second vote.

With each post, Farael is looking more and more suspicious. He is now looking like a Hero to me. Perhaps I was wrong in that the three Heroes voted for three different people. Maybe there was nobody in that Nonnacedak bandwagon after all.

The three heroes, to me, appear to consist of:

Rune son of Bjarne
Farael
Oddwen

Time draws late in my location, and I find it difficult to decide between Farael and Rune as to who I should vote for. Therefore, true to my nature as a Lone Wolf, I'll keep out of the majority who want to see Farael dead and vote, as I've said before, for

++Rune son of Bjarne

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Morm~ He jumped in early (which holds no real bearing) but early on he turned things onto those who voted for Nonna instead of those who voted for Glirdan. He knew eyes would turn toward those who voted for Glirdan and perhaps he was trying to hide behind the group that had the Huan as a voter.

A couple of things here Kitanna. I posted fairly early on that I believe that a Hero could be among the group that voted Glirdan, however I believe that one was among the three that voted Nonnacedak. Now I would like to narrow the list a bit and therefore being that I believe that one of three is a hero it makes sense to go for that group does it not?

Now to say that I am trying to hide is absurd. Being the most vocal, by far, does not allow me to hide, in fact I'm very much in the open and the problem with that is obvious, though I only be a wolf, the words I say are twisted and used against me. That is okay because it helps to know what I think about others.

Now Kitanna and Gurthang much more and it seems like they may be in cahoots. I hope to be able to look more closely into that.