The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


View Poll Results: Is Eru God?
Yes 43 66.15%
No 22 33.85%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 12-14-2005, 02:53 PM   #31
alatar
Doubting Dwimmerlaik
 
alatar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Heaven's basement
Posts: 2,466
alatar is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.alatar is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerenIstarion
alatar, it seems to me you repeat the mistake the show caller made - how exactly Eru's omniscience differs from real world God's omniscience?
Thank you for your reply and analogy. In regards to omniscience, one has to assume that omniscience = omniscience, independent of bearer as the word means what it means. My question, maybe poorly stated, is that the Christian God to my knowledge did not preplay the game. He may have already have watched it, being God and all, but regarding the individual players, it was all new and never 'sung' before. My understanding of Eru is that he orchestrated the Ainur's song, recorded it then played it back as Arda. He, being God and all, knew what was sung before any note was uttered. Now the Ainur, players in the theme, not only played in the subsequent replay but participated in and even remembered the initial singing. Is this same foreknowledge/replay idea in beings less than omniscient found within Christian theology?

In ME we have actors that obtain foreknowledge as they remember the original Music/hear echoes of the Music whereas in Christianity (I assume) prediction/foreknowledge comes directly and only from God.
__________________
There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.
alatar is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:10 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.