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| Elendil |
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7 | 25.00% |
| Gil-Galad |
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3 | 10.71% |
| Isildur |
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18 | 64.29% |
| Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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La Belle Dame sans Merci
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I voted for Isildur simply because he literally did deal the final blow. Perhaps it wouldn't have "killed" Sauron if he hadn't already been so injured, but chronologically speaking, Isildur got the last hit in before Sauron "died". That's final enough for me.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it.
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Initially, I was just going to pick Isildur as an obvious yes. Then, I read down the posts, and reconsidered. After a second reconsideration, I'm going with my first choice. Allow me to explain:
Gil-galad and Elendil may have knocked Sauron down and "disabled" him, as it were, long enough for Isildur to come in and do his hand-choppy action. It was the loss of the ring that cuased the loss of the physical body. Why? He had poured som much of himself into the ring that with out it, he no longer had the strength to maintain a physical form. That sort of thing takes energy, and the sudden loss was like getting the wind knocked out of him. He needed time to recover, to gather strength with out the ring before he could take any shape whatsoever. Even then, his physical form was far more limited than it had been with the ring. (Come on- he was a giant eye, for goodness sake. What could he do, blink at his enemies?) He had to rely on his other abilities to get anything done, the foremost being the ability to get his cronies to do the physical work. To summarize- the loss of the ring cuased the loss of his power to overcome entropy, and since Isildur caused it, he gets the credit. Way to go Gil-galad and Elendil with the assist.
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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I think I'll go with Gollum.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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Gollum, snrk.
Sauron was never a giant eye, but it's true that he couldn't maintain physical form at the Siege because it had been sliced and diced by our heroes. One point: The passage reads "Then Sauron was for that time vanquished" after a sentence including the terms "Sauron also was thrown down" and "Isildur cut the Ruling-ring", so there is no basis in saying that this "vanquished" line supports one or t'other. the phantom makes a good point (*gasp*) when he says that maybe there was no final blow before Sauron decided to leave his body. In The Council, Elrond tells that "Sauron himself was overthrown, and Isildur cut the Ring from his hand..." This seems like good support for not choosing Isildur as the one who delivered the 'final' blow, which I read as that blow which crippled Sauron's body. Fordim, you should have made it a choice between Isildur and Elendil/Gilgalad. Once more you have incurred pettiness at the structure of your polls. You'd think you would have it sorted by now.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
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I was going to abstain, but a key is the improbability of
the very questionable PJ depiction of Sauron losing the Ring. More likely is the Ring being cut off of a finger, with that obviously only practicable when Sauron was "dead." therefore, Elendil/Gilgalad seems the choice, with it being relatively unimportant which one technically got the last "killing" blow in. But since Isildur claimed the Ring as weregild I'll opt for Elendil.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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My, my, that is an excellent point Tuor. I can vote now.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment.
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Yet that does not mean that Sauron was beyond recovery. His physical body was inhabited by a VERY STRONG soul and therefore one could think that he could recover from many things a human could not and yet the soul chose to leave the body after the ring was cut off. That is, at least, what I understand from the books. So as I said before, Isidur and Elendil might have incapacitated Sauron, but loosing the ring is what made his soul leave the body. |
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