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Old 11-25-2005, 04:39 PM   #1
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A couple of minor 'cons' for the elven-warrior

1) On a selfish note, I like as many special roles as fair as possible to the size of the village in the hopes that I get one.

2)because the villagers are getting so good at finding wolves, if the hunter/ranger were one person, there is less likely that the warrior chooses an innocent to kill and a wolf to protect, and we'd never see the scenario where the hunter takes out the ranger.

I'm willing to try anything once might be very interesting.
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:51 PM   #2
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I'm not sure if this has been tried before (as I didn't really get involved with ww till recently), but I'd like to see this voting scenario:

Nonretractable votes, but multiple votes per player. You can vote as many times as you like, but each vote has to be for a different person--i.e. no flooding the game with 50 votes for your favorite candidate to force a lynching.

This could work with single or multiple lynchings. I see it as being especially useful in the case of multiple lynchings--if you want a double lynch, you go ahead and vote for both suspects. If you want to prevent a double lynch, you vote for only one.

As for roles, how about this wrinkle for the Cursed? When attacked, the Cursed becomes a wolf....AND one of the wolves loses his/her powers and becomes an innocent villager. Everyone would know that it happened, just like we now know when the Cursed has been attacked, but no one (except the wolves) would know who changed roles.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:35 PM   #3
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The multiple votes idea looks pretty scarey. It also looks like it might work . . . and create all kinds of wild posting toward the end of the day, which could be really wild. But I think it could get out of hand, with six different players getting ten votes each, or something.

The trade idea kind of takes the sting out of the Cursed role. That's the only con I can see, but it looks sort of like a big one. It would stop being a potential game changer, which is what I like most about it.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:09 PM   #4
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The trade idea also has one big problem... you'd have one villager who knew who all the old wolves were (as many as two!), which would be a huge blow to the wolves. You may as well not even have the Cursed.

The multiple votes per person is a cool idea - the only problem I see in it is that of timezones. In a close vote, it could give the end voters a lot of power. But it still might be fun to try.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:21 AM   #5
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The trade idea also has one big problem... you'd have one villager who knew who all the old wolves were (as many as two!), which would be a huge blow to the wolves. You may as well not even have the Cursed.
Oh yeah. Shoot.

I'm going to keep thinking on that, because the thing I like about the Cursed is the concept of people "switching teams" mid-game. There's got to be a way to get more of that into the game....
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:49 AM   #6
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I'm going to keep thinking on that, because the thing I like about the Cursed is the concept of people "switching teams" mid-game. There's got to be a way to get more of that into the game....
Well, once Gil figure's out the rest of the kinks in his game (go to Tol-in-Gaurhoth Junior to see more information), that migt actually become possible. I have talked to him in awhile so I don't know how far he is into working those kinks out.

As for your mulitiple voting idea, I'm all for trying everything once. I think that would add a different twist to the game. A really interesting different twist. I just can't pinpoint anything else other than what's already been said.

Lmp, your Elven-Warrior idea sounds interesting, but I think it would take out some of the fun of the game. But I think it would be cool to try it out at least once to see how it works out. That would be a good idea for small games though.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:02 AM   #7
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Mith floated the idea of a Ranger/Hunter some time ago; we dubbed it a (think cringe-making Disney narration) "Hero"!

I believe the opium griller also toyed with the thought of a Ranger/Hunter/Seer at one point...
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Oh yeah. Shoot.

I'm going to keep thinking on that, because the thing I like about the Cursed is the concept of people "switching teams" mid-game. There's got to be a way to get more of that into the game....
Perhaps it's time to bring out my idea for "Dueling Wizards", which does include "switching teams" in such a way that the werewolves who turn back into innocents can't be sure who the real werewolves are that are left....

*LMP waits for the curious crowd to get impatient enough to scream for him to come out with it....*
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:13 PM   #9
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